MOTOACTV TCX Exporter

two_wheels · Sep 2, 2012

Did my first bike ride with the new version this morning, thanks for adding power, I have power and cadence numbers now from the power meter, well done superdave!

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Oh but one more thing (there's always a 'but')..... the power numbers are different from what I am getting from downloading the .csv from the Motoactv site. Avg power is showing as 186 on Motoactv's site and through their .csv, but the .tcx file shows it as almost 194 watts when imported into SportTracks. I have power data smoothing turned off in Sporttracks.. Any idea why they would be different? Thanks.

superdave · Sep 2, 2012

That is odd. Is the data from a route your wouldn't mind posting? The TCX and the CSV would help. I use the duration of a lap to determine which trackpoints apply to a lap. Its possible I am missing a trackpoint. Comparing the csv and the tcx should tell us.

two_wheels said:
Did my first bike ride with the new version this morning, thanks for adding power, I have power and cadence numbers now from the power meter, well done superdave!

---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 PM ----------

Oh but one more thing (there's always a 'but')..... the power numbers are different from what I am getting from downloading the .csv from the Motoactv site. Avg power is showing as 186 on Motoactv's site and through their .csv, but the .tcx file shows it as almost 194 watts when imported into SportTracks. I have power data smoothing turned off in Sporttracks.. Any idea why they would be different? Thanks.

two_wheels · Sep 2, 2012

The .csv (exported from Motoactv) and the .tcx from the same ride are attached..... Thanks!!!

superdave said:
That is odd. Is the data from a route your wouldn't mind posting?

superdave · Sep 2, 2012

two_wheels said:
The .csv (exported from Motoactv) and the .tcx from the same ride are attached..... Thanks!!!

Thanks that helps.

It appears the portal is smoothing the data to every 4 meters. That is what is throwing off the averages. The data from the watch and what is going into the tcx is not smoothed at all. When you export the data from the portal your getting that same smoothed data that they use. This is the reason for the discrepancies in the averages. There smoothing/estimating all the data points.

,Dave

stoudamire · Sep 3, 2012

superdave said:
stoudamire,

Sorry I missed that post the first time. How do intervals work, have you looked at the activity.db to see how they are stored. How are they shown on the portal?

Thanks,
Dave

No reason to apologise. I´m very grateful for your work.
You can set-up the intervals (and normal workouts) on the MotoACTV portal under "Planning". Then you have to do a manual sync in the wireless settings. After syncing, the planned intervals/workouts are shown under "workout" -> "run" -> "outdoors" -> "planned".
I attached a screenshot which shows how intervals are shown on the MotoACTV portal.
I´m not sure but I guess the corresponding data is stored under "workout_sub_activity" in the activity.db.

superdave · Sep 3, 2012

Yeah workout_sub_activity would be the equivalent of lap details for an interval workout. There appears to be a corresponding entry for each interval, shouldn't be to much to check for a workout activity id in this table and if its there use it instead of laps details.

stoudamire said:
No reason to apologise. I´m very grateful for your work.
You can set-up the intervals (and normal workouts) on the MotoACTV portal under "Planning". Then you have to do a manual sync in the wireless settings. After syncing, the planned intervals/workouts are shown under "workout" -> "run" -> "outdoors" -> "planned".
I attached a screenshot which shows how intervals are shown on the MotoACTV portal.
I´m not sure but I guess the corresponding data is stored under "workout_sub_activity" in the activity.db.

superdave · Sep 3, 2012

Version 1.7 posted

Added steps to lap details
Uses workout sub activity (intervals) if available for lap details.

stoudamire,

Please let me know how this works, I only had a interval setup that used time for the splits to test. Ill try to get one in with distance if the rain today holds off.

stoudamire · Sep 4, 2012

superdave said:
Version 1.7 posted

Added steps to lap details
Uses workout sub activity (intervals) if available for lap details.

stoudamire,

Please let me know how this works, I only had a interval setup that used time for the splits to test. Ill try to get one in with distance if the rain today holds off.

Wow, you are unbelievable. I´m going to test it tomorrow. Thanks a lot.
I would be happy to send you a small amount via paypal if you send me your adress via PM.
Your app saves me a huge amount of time and made the MotoACTV one of the best GPS watches on the market. :good:

superdave · Sep 4, 2012

Your welcome, there is donate link next to my username. Its not necessary, but, very much appreciated.

,Dave

stoudamire said:
Wow, you are unbelievable. I´m going to test it tomorrow. Thanks a lot.
I would be happy to send you a small amount via paypal if you send me your adress via PM.
Your app saves me a huge amount of time and made the MotoACTV one of the best GPS watches on the market. :good:

jmcourir · Sep 5, 2012

Please help...

Please help,

I have tried to update to 1.7 and now having this error.... what should I do?

JmCourir,

superdave · Sep 5, 2012

Hey JmCourir, it looks like your trying to install the settings.apk. That cannot be installed through adb install. Maybe you download the wrong file?

Thanks,
Dave

jmcourir said:
Please help,

I have tried to update to 1.7 and now having this error.... what should I do?

JmCourir,

jmcourir · Sep 5, 2012

superdave said:
Hey JmCourir, it looks like your trying to install the settings.apk. That cannot be installed through adb install. Maybe you download the wrong file?

Thanks,
Dave

Hi Dave,
Thanks for replying,
I was too much excited about steps version 1.7 hehe.

I just did a run test and steps are at the end of the file. Very nice! Thank you very much for that 1.7 version.
:good::good:

JmCourir

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Hi Dave,

I just sent you a little DONATION for your good work !!! :victory:

WELL DONE!!!

Have a nice day!

JmCourir

superdave · Sep 6, 2012

Glad its working for you JmCourir. Thanks for the donation!

pocketedgejr · Sep 10, 2012

I was running 1.5 when I noticed an issue - had it happen twice so I came here and noticed 1.7 is out so I upgraded, then foolishly didn't reproduce the circumstances in my fatigued state.

Basically what happened was I didn't completely close out a workout (paused but did not end, then end again in the summary) and plugged it into the USB port. Closing out the workout when the device is plugged in either didnt trigger 1.5 or 1.5 failed to work properly.

The 1st time I had the motoactv software setup to autosync to motoactv.com and lost the workout due to this. I removed my wifi setup and turned the software sync off of auto.

The 2nd time I didn't lose the workout, but I had to manually export it.

My last run was away from home so I had time to remember to fully close out the workout vs coming in from the run and plugging it in right away.

I'll attempt to reproduce in a day or two when I go back out, but I figured I would throw this out there to see if anyone else had it happened or something jumps out in the code.

superdave · Sep 11, 2012

pocketedgejr,

The app listens for com.motorola.android.intent.action.WORKOUT_COMPLETED which is set when the end workout button is pressed. I have tested hitting this button with USB connected in adb mode and it works fine. I'll do some testing with it when adb is not running. When you say you lost your workout do you mean the motoactv sync deleted the non finished workout?

Thanks,
Dave

memtd · Sep 11, 2012

Run Cadence

superdave,

First of all thank you for this program. It makes the motoactv so much more useful!

I am not sure how the watch tracks indoor vs. outdoor running. When running "outdoors" I use both the GPS and a foot pod. Motorola does not show run cadence on their website and the tcx export does not either. Are they not recording this metric when running "outdoors"?

Thanks,
Matt

pocketedgejr · Sep 11, 2012

superdave said:
pocketedgejr,
When you say you lost your workout do you mean the motoactv sync deleted the non finished workout?

Yes. This is just a guess but I would assume that the workout looks (for all intents and purposes) finished in the DB and there just wasn't a signal thrown until I click a frowny face and end. I believe it was the USB sync that did it.

pocketedgejr · Sep 12, 2012

Ok, so I went out and managed to do it "correctly" this time and the results are the same.

Pause workout, go to computer and plug into USB, remember I have to end workout and go through that process.

Hit import on SportsTracks and it pops up to the F: drive that is the motoactv. Workout file from the 9th is visible but nothing from the 11th.

Now:
I tried to launch the manual exporter just now (I have launched it in the past) and I'm getting a force quit error

"The application settings (process com.android.settings) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

I just rebooted (held button until I could select power down on screen) and its still doing that. Being plugged in seems to be the issue. I tried launching it with it plugged in with adb on and off with no luck. Unplug the USB cord and its just fine.

I wonder if the Motoactv software isn't part of the problem. If the software is up (saying please plug in a device) when adb is active it seems to interfere (I can't adb at all, it says device not found I have to kill the software then unplug/replug the device). I don't really use it anymore except for some manual syncs with the website so I can browse some workout results on lunch.

Anyways. now that the manual exporter launches I exported the workout without issue and can import it now.

I'm running Windows 7, whatever kernel the easy rooter kit uses on a 8gig device. I have the latest Motocast installed (what I believe to be the source of the issue)

stoudamire · Sep 12, 2012

pocketedgejr said:
Ok, so I went out and managed to do it "correctly" this time and the results are the same.
Pause workout, go to computer and plug into USB, remember I have to end workout and go through that process.

It looks like you have USB debugging disabled. Consequently, the app cannot work because the internal sd card is always mounted via USB when you plugin your MotoACTV. As the GPX files are written on the internal SD card, you get the error message because the internal sd card is not accessible.
As superdave already wrote, just push the end button before you connect the device via USB (is there a reason why you have not done that before?). If you want ADB access again, you have to reinstall the ROM.

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@Superdave: The change for interval workouts works perfectly. However, I have another (really small) request. Could you change the setup of the output filenames that it always includes double figures ("workout_XX.tcx")? Currently, the first workout is saved as "workout_1.txc". However, I would prefer if it is saved as "workout_01.txc". It helps because the files are usually sorted alphabetically within apps (i.e. Dropbox) and then the file at the bottom will always be the last workout. I really hope you do understand me.

pocketedgejr · Sep 12, 2012

stoudamire said:
If you want ADB access again, you have to reinstall the ROM.

I can reactivate ADB by rebooting.

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