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[ANSWER] Does my Defy have a RED or a Green lens?

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By cloogshizer, Senior Member on 9th June 2011, 09:28 AM
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Hi,

as there are many questions in in many threads regarding whether a ROM allows using the camera or not, here is some help:

The Defy is delivered with two (as to the date of this post) camera sensors, one with a GREEN lens and one with a RED one.

To identify which camera you have, some capable and friendly members took photos which show the difference:

GREEN lens:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=31 by Quaza and the first two photos of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=10 by zakoo2

RED lens:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=34 by viper. and the last three photos of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=10 by zakoo2

So if in doubt, please check your lens before asking.

BTW: With the newly released Gingerbread SBFs the camera will ONLY work on Defys with the RED lens. This might be due to the fact that these releases target a successor device of the Defy AKA DefyPlus, Defy+, MB526. With these leaked releases, the camera on GREEN lens Defys might NEVER work, because the new device will probably not be delivered wit a green lens.

EDIT: As noted below, the lens color alone is not a reliable indicator to identify the camera module. It seems to depend on the camera module, not the lens itself, whether recording works or not. Please read the very informative post 2. The problem, however, only exists with the leaked MotoBlur SBFs (2.3.3, 2.3.4), not CM7 based ROMs.

To find out the module of your phone you can try the method explained by martin.flory on page 4 of this thread:

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Originally Posted by martin.flory

Easiest way I found:

1. Install this free app. https://market.android.com/details?i...nlawson.logcat
2. Open the app
3. hit home
4. open camera
5. exit camera
6. open app
7. search "CameraCommon".
8. Either or

I found out I have the SOC module, which sucks.


Yours,
CS
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9th June 2011, 10:17 PM |#2  
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"With the newly released Gingerbread SBFs the camera will ONLY work on Defys with the RED"
It not absolutely so. Color of the camera doesn't influence record possibility. Record possibility is influenced by the camera module. The camera module can be defined in ADB.

If you have in logcat(app of ADB) after boot
D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected SOC device
- this is old camera module - this camera might be green or red

If D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device
- this is new camera module - this camera might be green or red

It is inspected in practice
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"With the newly released Gingerbread SBFs the camera will ONLY work on Defys with the RED"
It not absolutely so. Color of the camera doesn't influence record possibility. Record possibility is influenced by the camera module. The camera module can be defined in ADB.

If you have in logcat(app of ADB) after boot
D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected SOC device
- this is old camera module - this camera might be green or red

If D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device
- this is new camera module - this camera might be green or red

It is inspected in practice

To prove this.. Does anyone with phisically green lense able to flash 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 and having working camera regardless of date of device manufatured??
10th June 2011, 07:10 PM |#4  
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Yes it is information from 4pda.ru
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showt...post&p=7587208
11th June 2011, 02:06 AM |#5  
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I have readed something about the size of a taken pircture, that the green (old) one have smaller file size, like 500 kb to 900kb , and the red (new) ones have about 1mb to more.

This is true???

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11th June 2011, 05:23 AM |#6  
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I have readed something about the size of a taken pircture, that the green (old) one have smaller file size, like 500 kb to 900kb , and the red (new) ones have about 1mb to more.

This is true???

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Yeas it is 1.4+Mb is red!
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11th June 2011, 02:29 PM |#7  
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Yes it is information from 4pda.ru
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showt...post&p=7587208

First it's Russian. But it is for 720p patch video recording (if I'm not mistaken), of course everyone can use it regardless your camera lens colour.
I don't think any green lenses can run stock gingerbread 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 like those red lenses owner having it right after flashed.

But it may work too I wouldn't surprise as some brilliant developer might just crack it for good.


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14th June 2011, 09:59 AM |#8  
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I am almost certain i have a Green lens [ March 2011 ] and can also confirm with the 720p Record zip i can record at 720p but at the time of playback the video seems like i recorded it in a dual mirror mode hard to explain almost like everything is out of focus and mirrored .
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my camera looks green ( from outside) but stil can use MIUI 1.6.3
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If D/LibCommonCamera( 1837): CameraCommon: Detected BAYER device
- this is new camera module - this camera might be green or red

It is inspected in practice

is there any place we can buy BAYER camera module for defy?
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I find this interesting. I have a Defy from Nov 2010 with a Green lens, B04, that is running 2.3.4 Cyanogen with no problem. Camera has no problem either.
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