Unlimited data + Tethering

ihavenewnike · Jan 9, 2013

Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.

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cleex024 · Jan 9, 2013

thats a good question i would like to know too

Goldchamp · Jan 9, 2013

Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.

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adrynalyne · Jan 9, 2013

Terminate your account, call due your etfs, and send your a ginormous data bill would be the worst case scenario.

Chances are terminating your account would also blacklist you from reinstating it....ever.

nnnnr14 · Jan 9, 2013

ihavenewnike said:
Since third party tethering apps are allowed. What are the consequences of running whole home imternet off my phone. Anything VZW can do? Heard they can terminate account.

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They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.

Goldchamp said:
Pretty sure 3rd party tethering apps are not allowed. They want you to pay the additional fee for tethering. If they catch you they I'm sure could terminate your account. Never heard of it happening though.

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They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.

adrynalyne · Jan 9, 2013

nnnnr14 said:
They can't do anything do to the new laws. If they do your could potentially sue them.

They are allowed verizon can't do anything about it as long as the fcc is there. Also they would terminate your account they'd just want you to pay for a tethering plan and the data that you've used.

Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.

http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation

In addition, the company recently revised its service offerings such that consumers on usage-based
pricing plans may tether, using any application, without paying an additional fee.
-FCC-
For news and information about the FCC, please visit: www.fcc.gov

The FCC ruling does not include grandfathered plans.

The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included in a lot of this stuff. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya

tino_b · Jan 9, 2013

I rooted my friend's nexus for Verizon and he's currently running a 3rd party tethering app and nothing has happened to his account.

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nnnnr14 · Jan 9, 2013

adrynalyne said:
Um, yes they can if you are on unlimited. FCC even knows about it.

http://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation

The ruling is almost entirely about tethering apps, not service. Verizon gets through on a loophole due to CDMA being included. Try to take them to court on it, I dare ya

They don't have to allow tethering on CDMA at all.

Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.

adrynalyne · Jan 9, 2013

nnnnr14 said:
Well they've done nothing to me I've been on Verizon since the alltel merging with unlimited and when 4g came our and I got my thunderbolt I have been using 3rd party tethering apps and I haven't been caught so they know but just won't point it out cause they know they'll lose some high paying customers.

Right, but never have is not synonymous with never will.

From what I read, OP just wanted a worse case scenario sort of response.

None of us can rightfully tell the guy that he cannot be punished for unauthorized tethering.

jmorton10 · Jan 9, 2013

We have an awesome Verizon corporate rep. It is a great looking chic and she is cool as hell.

I asked her about this one time and about things like using a ton of data with my slingbox etc. She actually walked in while I was using my Slingbox and asked me how it worked.

She could care less what I do, but she did advise me not to go absolutely crazy with the data use as things like Slingbox that are unsupported and third party tethering are TOS violations and you may endanger your unlimited data package (something I have been really careful not to do)

She said as long as you use a reasonable amount of data VZ won't care, but the DBs that use 150 gigs a month and then brag about it on sites like this are definitely pressing their luck IMHO.

ihavenewnike · Jan 9, 2013

Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot

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jmorton10 · Jan 9, 2013

ihavenewnike said:
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot

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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.

Goldchamp · Jan 9, 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by ihavenewnike View Post
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot

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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.

That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...

adrynalyne · Jan 9, 2013

Goldchamp said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ihavenewnike View Post
Dang. I was gonna use foxfi with premium key to do so. So if I pay the 30 buck hotspot fee and lets say ise 150+ gb of data, will they stop my hotspot

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If you pay for the hotspot, you can legitimately use as much data as you want.

That is correct but I wouldn't doubt if you used a lot your speed would mysteriously slow down at some point...

LTE is not allowed to be throttled.

They will on 3G though.

ihavenewnike · Jan 9, 2013

Cool. I might go that route. Seems like it could be alright though. Right now I pay 80 bucks for internet for the high speeds. Ibget better speeds on lte than that though. 50 dollar savings seems ok

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joshw0000 · Jan 10, 2013

If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.

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adrynalyne · Jan 10, 2013

joshw0000 said:
If you use a 3rd party app or hack the stock tethering you should be fine as long as you don't go crazy tethering. You'd most likely not be content with a home network tethered from your phone. Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.

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Let me repeat:

They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.

jmorton10 · Jan 10, 2013

joshw0000 said:
Verizon will throttle your data to crippling speeds if you consistently used a large amount of data.

Only if its 3g data, they don't throttle 4g.

I do agree it's not the worlds best idea to run your entire home internet by tethering however.

I would never do that (i use roadrunner) and sooner or later I firmly believe verizon will discontinue unlimited data for everyone anyway.

dcdgoth · Jan 10, 2013

They won't charge you anything. They will simply put a block on your tethering and nothing else.

joshw0000 · Jan 10, 2013

adrynalyne said:
Let me repeat:

They cannot throttle LTE, only 3G.

Care to share an article?

In the days of the Droid X, there was a simple hack to remove throttling. In everything I've read currently, the throttle is done at the network level, not from the device. I don't see why they'd throttle 3G and not 4G (LTE).

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