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8th April 2013, 12:49 AM |#131  
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will be sdr touch in google play store again in future?
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12th April 2013, 03:08 PM |#132  
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SDR Touch v.1.4 is out in the wild!

New features:
  • Fine tuning via pinch-to-zoom
  • Improved AM, LSB and USB
  • minor GUI tweaks and bug fixes

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12th April 2013, 09:27 PM |#133  
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Originally Posted by martintzvetomirov

SDR Touch v.1.4 is out in the wild!

New features:

  • Fine tuning via pinch-to-zoom
  • Improved AM, LSB and USB
  • minor GUI tweaks and bug fixes

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Wow just updated and WFM sounds so clear... Weird since it doesn't look like you did anything there lol.

The zoom feature looks like it could be handy.

If I just had a frequency manager for my car install this would be great!!!

Just an idea for the future maybe a widget with 6 presents would be awesome once that feature is added of course

Keep up the good work!!


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12th April 2013, 10:18 PM |#134  
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SDR Touch v.1.4 is out in the wild!

Thanks ! I was waiting for 1.4 before buying.

I didn't realize the key APK was automatically generated and sent. I've been happy to let Google get their 30% (42+% markup), but such ease makes me wonder.

It's still a bit of a struggle to get everything working together. Re-plugging the dongle seems to help.


Now, how about an API ? I'd recommend the open ST-Ericsson proposed Android FM API that Sony uses, despite it's unclear future.

Of course a few simple public Intents for tuning would be useful too.
12th April 2013, 11:45 PM |#135  
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Thanks ! I was waiting for 1.4 before buying.

I didn't realize the key APK was automatically generated and sent. I've been happy to let Google get their 30% (42+% markup), but such ease makes me wonder.

It's still a bit of a struggle to get everything working together. Re-plugging the dongle seems to help.


Now, how about an API ? I'd recommend the open ST-Ericsson proposed Android FM API that Sony uses, despite it's unclear future.

Of course a few simple public Intents for tuning would be useful too.

Well, Google removed SDR Touch from Google Play, a long story. So me and Google are not in good business conditions.

As for an API - I haven't thought about it. It is definitely something I should consider in future.

As for the WFM, there were actually a few small fixes applied to the whole DSP which might improve the quality on devices that have higher CPU usage.
13th April 2013, 01:32 AM |#136  
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Well, Google removed SDR Touch from Google Play, a long story. So me and Google are not in good business conditions.

I'm well aware of the story, and similar stories of others for various crazy reasons. You have my utmost sympathy on that. I try my best to be "squeaky clean" because my apps are my only income. If Google shut me down I might not be able to continue.

You may know that Google refuses to respond to small developers for most issues we may have. Most emails I've sent get ignored or get a canned response.

AFAICT, Google acts on the DMCA request and that's it. A small dev can do nothing. Frankly, your story has "chilled" any thoughts I might have of doing SDR stuff in my app. It might be interesting, for example, if I could set frequency in your app from mine, but the complainant might come after me.


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As for an API - I haven't thought about it. It is definitely something I should consider in future.

I'd be interested in frequency setting Intents or similar. But I'm very much the exception; pretty much nobody has asked for an API in my app.
13th April 2013, 04:34 AM |#137  
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Looking Good...

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13th April 2013, 12:57 PM |#138  
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You may know that Google refuses to respond to small developers for most issues we may have. Most emails I've sent get ignored or get a canned response.

AFAICT, Google acts on the DMCA request and that's it. A small dev can do nothing. Frankly, your story has "chilled" any thoughts I might have of doing SDR stuff in my app. It might be interesting, for example, if I could set frequency in your app from mine, but the complainant might come after me.ю

Google is not almighty. Frankly, I prefer using PayPal, my own updater and promoting my app with ads rather than having it on Google Play. I had so many issues with Google Play even before the complaint and it is too expensive anyways. I was even thinking of making a petition to raise public awareness of the issue after all Google are actually breaching DMCA section 512(g)(2)(C) by not reinsantiating access to the app they have removed. I mean, I am ready to reveal my source code in front of a lawyer or a judge just to prove that I haven't copied anything from anyone if required. But as an indie developer the time investment is not worth it, what is important is that people that really want ot have the app can download it and use it.

P.S. Presets and waterfall are on the top of the TODO list for the next version or two
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Google are actually breaching DMCA section 512(g)(2)(C) by not reinsantiating access to the app they have removed. I mean, I am ready to reveal my source code in front of a lawyer or a judge just to prove that I haven't copied anything from anyone if required. But as an indie developer the time investment is not worth it, what is important is that people that really want ot have the app can download it and use it.

P.S. Presets and waterfall are on the top of the TODO list for the next version or two

For frequency setting could one just send a packet to the rtl sdr dameon ?

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OK, I feel I'm 100% on "your side" on this matter, so please don't misunderstand when I say this:

1 - Google tries to be an "almost everything is computerized" company. They do their best to minimize human contacts and the need for them. In a focused pursuit of money, this is an effective business strategy.

I refuse to be one of the many Internet "armchair CEOs" who think they know better how to run one of the few richest companies on Earth. I'm positive 99.9% of us couldn't run Google any better (strictly money wise) than they are. How can you argue with such success ? The "armchair CEOs" will say their way (IE being "nicer" to developers and users) is better in the long run.

So, in the strict pursuit of money, I think it likely makes sense that Google put very few resources into defending app devs against DMCA or similar requests. How many engineers and lawyers would it take for Google to analyze each situation and defend the devs ?

Yes, on the other side there may be more app sales which always helps Google. I'm sure they help defend larger devs, and/or the larger dev companies themselves are the DMCA target instead of Google.


2 - I don't know all DMCA particulars, but I'm not convinced Google is breaking any laws with their lack of response to DMCA counter claims.

If they ARE breaking laws, I hope and I'd expect that someone somewhere will take them to court, civil or criminal or whatever.

Each news item of a few I've read about this issue, sends some "shame" in Google's direction, but hasn't accomplished anything yet. Maybe some better "shaming" or "leverage" method is needed.

For apps, Google is not merely a file hosting provider, or a "You-tube" style provider. Google Play is very much more "curated", and they have a "contract" with all registered devs that is likely very one sided. I've never even bothered to read it, other than a few parts about bypassing Google's 30%, because I have zero leverage as a sole individual.

I think it's similar to this:

- In public spaces you cannot discriminate against people on the basis of race, religion etc.

- In a private business the owner is 100% within his legal rights to decide to admit people or not on the basis of race, religion, political affiliation, hair color, whatever they want. He may be a jerk, but it's his property and his choice.

Google is the private business owner on whose virtual Play property the apps are displayed.

Google can indefinitely pull apps for any or "no" reason.


Again, I'm not intending to defend Google; Except in the same way I defend free speech, even when I find that speech distasteful.

I, or the CM guys, or anybody can start their own app store and decide what apps will or won't be allowed.

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Now, a further argument could be made that Google is dominant in the apps space. We could further argue that the apps space should be considered a public place for the good of all. We do the same (somewhat, still...) with the "public airways" of radio broadcasting.

But then, you've got some kind of governmental, or world body type entity that's deciding what apps to allow or not. LOL !
14th April 2013, 12:48 PM |#140  
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True that! According to the DMCA any app that was removed due to a violation of DMCA must be returned within 15 days if not court order was presented by the side that filed the complaint. It is two months and a half now and I have received no court order. But of course if I file a case against Google they could always refer to the developer agreement that states that they could remove any app even without a reason whatsoever. I need to have really good lawyers to persuade the judge that my app was not reinstantiated and this was a breach of DMCA which can't really happen.

The unfortunate thing is that if you use other services like AdWords, there are tons of phone numbers and email addresses you could contact. Unlike Google Play in which, as you said, I'm not even sure whether either the original complaint or my counter-complaints was actually read by a human being.
21st April 2013, 05:36 PM |#141  
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Sorry for bothering you, but I was just wondering if this application also works on a Gingerbread device?
(I have an Archos 70 installed in my car; so this would be awesome!)
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