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14th June 2013, 08:28 PM |#241  
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Tests comparing the two devices side by side indicate that the I9505 has better battery life:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...view-930p3.php

About "day to day life", with LTE disabled I have managed to keep my phone on for 2 days and 14 hours in a single charge, with 3hours of screen time. That included a 30minute drive with my g/f in which I used the phone to stream Internet music. Brightness set to auto, Wi-Fi and GPS on all the time. Power saving mode DISABLED.

If I hadn't streamed Internet music (very battery intensive) and had used power saving mode, I recon I could have reached 3+ days of battery time. Despite A7´s incredible power efficiency, I have yet to see users posting 3+ days of battery life with over 3hours of screen time in a single charge on their I9500´s.

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With 2.5 days on single charge and 3 hrs of screen time surely sounds great. .
I have never gotten higher than 17 to 18 hrs myself but even in those 18 hrs, I get a screen time of 5-6 hrs..
Here is how i use my phone in those 18 hrs.
40 to 50 mins real racing 3
30 to 50 mins fast and furious 6
About 1hr of csr racing
15 to 20 mins of temple run
25 mins of subway surfers
25 to 30 mins xda
30 mins opera
A few minutes of whats app and camera.

Air guesture, airview, sync and wifi on and never used power saving mode. .
If I stop these games which I play a lot even I might get that much of stand by but the use differs from user to user.

Besides the test from gsmarena cant be termed accurate..
First reason being they used older fimware for 9500 against updated version of 9505.
Besides there test just diminished the whole purpose of big little in web browsing test. In normal day to day use, loading of a webpage uses a15 and afterwards a7 for the time the person is reading the same page which can take couple of minutes.
In gsmarena test the webpage was refreshed every 10 sec never allowing a15 to shut down.
Also overall difference even with so much disadvantages, the diff is of just 4 hrs.



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14th June 2013, 08:50 PM |#242  
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Besides the test from gsmarena cant be termed accurate..
First reason being they used older fimware for 9500 against updated version of 9505.
Besides there test just diminished the whole purpose of big little in web browsing test. In normal day to day use, loading of a webpage uses a15 and afterwards a7 for the time the person is reading the same page which can take couple of minutes.
In gsmarena test the webpage was refreshed every 10 sec never allowing a15 to shut down.
Also overall difference even with so much disadvantages, the diff is of just 4 hrs.

Loading a web-page is not CPU intensive, why would it switch to A15 for such a simple task? I thought the A7 was supposed to be powerful enough to handle simple tasks.
14th June 2013, 08:53 PM |#243  
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With 2.5 days on single charge and 3 hrs of screen time surely sounds great. .
I have never gotten higher than 17 to 18 hrs myself but even in those 18 hrs, I get a screen time of 5-6 hrs..
Here is how i use my phone in those 18 hrs.
40 to 50 mins real racing 3
30 to 50 mins fast and furious 6
About 1hr of csr racing
15 to 20 mins of temple run



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what about overheating when playing games or browsing?
14th June 2013, 10:37 PM |#244  
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Loading a web-page is not CPU intensive, why would it switch to A15 for such a simple task? I thought the A7 was supposed to be powerful enough to handle simple tasks.

You might have seen reviewers often load a same webpage on different mobile at same time, its because the faster the processor is, more quickly it can render the webpage.
It surely dependd on type of connection too but it does bring the processor running at 100% espically those webpages having great amount of flash content on it.. it surely uses a15 to render the webpage asap and switch back to a7...:thumbup:




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what about overheating when playing games or browsing?

It used to overheat in MDK firmware but the new update which brought apps2sd and other featured on 9500, 9505 last week took care of it.
Besides the processor cools down prettly quickly and by that I mean it can drop 20 ° within few seconds ar a minute max.
Also undervolting takes care of that problem but as you might have guessed it requires sacrifising warranty..

Look guys I am not here to say which is better or why..
9505 too with snaodragon processor and Its asynchronous technology can provide great battery life, it will depend on from person to person for eg for a person fond of heavy games and processor demanding tasks will be better of with 9505 because of its asynchronous technology and for a person with normal usage and casual gameing will be happy with 9500 because of a7 ( games like subway surfer, temple run run on a7 and not a15 ) but still no matter how you use it the difference just boils down to just 3% to 5%.
As I stated above, for some 9500 will be better choice for others 9505 is the phone to go for..
I just dont like it when people start saying that the difference in battery life is quite huge or big little in 9500 is a dissappointment..
Its working great just the way it was meant initially, a15 to take care of heavy tasks and a7 for light ones providing a balance between performance and efficiency. ..:thumbup:

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14th June 2013, 10:50 PM |#245  
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Loading a web-page is not CPU intensive, why would it switch to A15 for such a simple task? I thought the A7 was supposed to be powerful enough to handle simple tasks.

Webpage rendering is the single most CPU intensive task on smartphones.
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14th June 2013, 11:22 PM |#246  
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I have no battery issues on gti9500. This seems like fine battery life to me. I ran it non stop surfing web. Half time on mobile data and half time on wifi. Plenty of downloads in a row that day.

http://db.tt/ROCuSygt
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I could go multiple days if i had not had straight use of screen on in a row for 7 hours. This phone makes two days easy with more normal use.
15th June 2013, 01:28 AM |#247  
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Nice write up.

Very factual and indeed noteworthy on the processor architecture.

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15th June 2013, 03:36 AM |#248  
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GT- I9500 still has the better battery life that the snapdragon version, the battery life of the I9500 is almosy near in the note 2
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22nd June 2013, 06:26 PM |#249  
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GT- I9500 still has the better battery life that the snapdragon version, the battery life of the I9500 is almosy near in the note 2

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...view-930p3.php

Um no, Read again.
22nd June 2013, 07:00 PM |#250  
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All depends on how one configures the cores. Both i9505 and i9500 has far more potential than GSM arena has shown. The stock setup pushes the exynos often into the high power cores. Setting the governor values better i don't hit A15 cores unless overloaded on the A7. It's no different on the snapdragon. Users can gain far more battery over stock. The stock governors for Android give no good comparison of how users use these phones once they get them. Stock comparison no adjustments made is fair enough to say the i9505 is getting better battery life. In real world usage its not nearly as clear.

S600 users and exynos could post a few battery life stats but would need a thread for it if one doesn't exist yet comparing these two models. If it's not too far off topic here is a good place to post battery stats for comparison of the two models. I get 7:30 screen on pretty easily without much effort. Personally the two models were designed to be so close, I don't see the draw to say one is better than the other. They are both sibling models labeled galaxy s4.
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23rd June 2013, 04:40 AM |#251  
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...view-930p3.php

Um no, Read again.

Nah that site is not reliable. Look at the iphone 5 battery life in gsmarena, its has better rating than the Galaxy S3 but it iphone 5 battery lifes pales in real life comparison. Gets your facts straight bro
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