How is Hancom Office compared with Office Suite 7 Pro

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buckofchuck

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Inking in Hancom

In Microsoft Word the Review tab allows for inking which in turn allows me to insert handwritten notes on top of typed text after the fact. I do not see where Hancom allows for this inking feature. Could someone explain how to do this in a doc with the SPen?
 

muzzy996

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Well in Hancom Word one can go to the insert menu and select the free draw tool. Will that work for you? Test it and see.

Personally without track changes features in Hancom I'm not interested in annotating documents within the suite. So what I do is convert to pdf and annotate the pdf within my application of choice (these days is lecturenotes).

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buckofchuck

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PDF annotation

Thanks Muzzy----will try. I write sermons and annotate the typed doc in my final prep. Have not used PDF because of my need to sometimes manipulate the typed text in the process and was not aware you could move or manipulate text in PDF format without conversion. Just found a King soft Word version that allows annotation over text so I will try that along with your suggestion. Thanks.
 

locutusx

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Finally, 5 months after buying my tablet, I decided to do some "real work" in Hancom Office 2014 (Hcell)

I am very disappointed! It mangled formatting so much, that I could not open the modified .XLSX file in ANY of the following: Google Sheets, QuickOffice, Microsoft Office Mobile.

had to re-open it on a COMPUTER's microsoft excel and re-save it to "fix" the file... so that it would open in the other mobile office apps.

Clearly Hancom Hcell is mangling the Excel format in some way. Of course, the computer version of Excel has the "smarts" to deal with the corruption, but the other mobile apps don't.
That's why I no longer consider Android tablets to be a serious notebook replacement. I'll continue to use Hancom to *VIEW* documents only, I won't ever try editing anything and risk corruption/mangling my documents.

As much as it pains me to say it, I have a feeling a Surface Pro 3 is in my future.
 

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It will work as a replacement for people who don't have to exchange files to a large number of other users but for those like us who collaborate or exchange information out can be challenging to downright impossible to get any meaningful work done. Another irritating thing I have found about Hancom is the application calling home for updates at the most inopportune times. I guess it's because I hardly use it but I have had a few instances where I'm in need of viewing an email attachment in a meeting and the dammed thing insists on updating upon opening. Very wasteful of mobile data and time.
 

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It will work as a replacement for people who don't have to exchange files to a large number of other users but for those like us who collaborate or exchange information out can be challenging to downright impossible to get any meaningful work done. Another irritating thing I have found about Hancom is the application calling home for updates at the most inopportune times. I guess it's because I hardly use it but I have had a few instances where I'm in need of viewing an email attachment in a meeting and the dammed thing insists on updating upon opening. Very wasteful of mobile data and time.

...... But I read that Microsoft is going to release its suite to the android market for free (only cloud services will be subject to a fee).
In the mean time you could try ANDROPENOFFICE. I didn't tryi t yet, but its linux counterpart has a very high level degree of compatibility with microsoft office.
 

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It will work as a replacement for people who don't have to exchange files to a large number of other users but for those like us who collaborate or exchange information out can be challenging to downright impossible to get any meaningful work done. Another irritating thing I have found about Hancom is the application calling home for updates at the most inopportune times. I guess it's because I hardly use it but I have had a few instances where I'm in need of viewing an email attachment in a meeting and the dammed thing insists on updating upon opening. Very wasteful of mobile data and time.

When I initially started up Hancom Office I was like "wow, cool, it's just like MS Office" but after spending an evening actually trying to do real work with it - updating my personal finance and Investment spreadsheets -
I realized that simply taking the interface of a Desktop App and implementing it on Android is NOT a good thing.

There's so many things that are very inconvenient on a 8" to 10" touch-screen tablet which doesn't have a keyboard or mouse. And one of those things is using an interface designed for a 13" (or bigger) monitor, on a machine which has both keyboard AND mouse.

I think a lot of people in this thread simply installed the app and then ran it once, and were like "wow it looks like MS Office 2010 so it must be good" and then never used it after that. I'm one of those people, ashamed to admit it.
 

treetopsranch

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I too was one of those types. 'Quickly downloaded the Hancom apps and said wow it looks good. ' However, after you use it awhile it becomes quite apparent that it is not MS Word or MS excel. Just too many limitations if you are a power user of MS stuff.
 

aviator1

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Yes, that's why I purchased the Pro together with its keyboard and, should I have the necessity be prepared to purchase a bluetooth mouse.
In any case I can't expect to be able to do extensive editing or set new big spreadsheets on a so limited screen, nor I expect to have the full set of instructions/programmability that I have on my desktop, because of the limits of the processor and memory, whether it`s a windows, android or whatsoever operating system tablet.
What I can pretend is to be able to consult and print my data and be able to do marginal editing if needed without affecting the formatting or any other functionality of the documents prepared on my desktop, or prepare simple documents from scratch that I will, if needed, refinish on my desktop.
Any other use, in my opinion, is not suited for a tablet.
 
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Hancom Office HD beta is now in the play store, in my quick try it seems identical to the desktop app ;)
 

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Have been using hancom office on my Samsung tab s 8.4.
I'm not a power user. Need basic word processing, spreadsheet and PowerPoint.
The 8 inch tablet doesn't work so well with BT keyboard and mouse for me because if it's in a position to be comfortable to type then the tablet is too far away. I need a bigger screen now.
I'm considering the note pro 12.2 with the logitech folio and Microsoft wedge mouse to see how i get on with that.
I know weight wise I'm getting into laptop territory. I just prefer android os over anything else and I'm in a rare situation where my work allows me to take walks and cycle rides during the day and that's where I do most of my admin so am always chasing battery life.
On the topic of battery life, in a seminar last weekend I was using hancom office to take notes and the combination of 4g, bluetooth mouse and keyboard, it felt like my battery had sprung a leak. I wondered how battery life would compare with a macbook air for example.
Am also testing the Microsoft office apps but haven't come to any conclusion as yet

meh
 

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Have been using hancom office on my Samsung tab s 8.4.
I'm not a power user. Need basic word processing, spreadsheet and PowerPoint.
The 8 inch tablet doesn't work so well with BT keyboard and mouse for me because if it's in a position to be comfortable to type then the tablet is too far away. I need a bigger screen now.
I'm considering the note pro 12.2 with the logitech folio and Microsoft wedge mouse to see how i get on with that.
I know weight wise I'm getting into laptop territory. I just prefer android os over anything else and I'm in a rare situation where my work allows me to take walks and cycle rides during the day and that's where I do most of my admin so am always chasing battery life.
On the topic of battery life, in a seminar last weekend I was using hancom office to take notes and the combination of 4g, bluetooth mouse and keyboard, it felt like my battery had sprung a leak. I wondered how battery life would compare with a macbook air for example.
Am also testing the Microsoft office apps but haven't come to any conclusion as yet

meh

Personally I think you are the ideal user for a Windows tablet. I think the Transformer T100 or T200 is what you want.
 
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Personally I think you are the ideal user for a Windows tablet. I think the Transformer T100 or T200 is what you want.

Agreed! (Sort of)

That was the reason I went with the ASUS Transformer TF300T a couple of years back. The keyboard is great, and the touchpad works just like a laptop's. (Once you learn to dissable it when not needed.) Seeing very little difference between this and a full netbook if you find the right aps to use.

Currently using the KatKiss 4.4.4_036 ROM. Loving the speed, full keyboard support, and multi-window functions.

As for the office suite discussion, I am currently using MobiSystems' OfficeSuite Pro 8. This version gives you features that most of the other Android office suites do not, including Track Changes. (Have not needed/used this feature yet, but noticed this was a complaint of users for several of the other office suites.) It cannot edit multiple docs of the same type, something that Hancom may have the upper hand in.

Got this suite via the Amazon App Store, on one of their frequent Productivity App features. I often see it for $0.99, sometimes it is offered for free.

Looking forward to trying Microsoft's upcoming tablet versions of their office apps. Want to see if they can actually do better that OfficeSuite Pro 8.
 

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it's evil That hancom doesn't tell people the files are NOT SAVING to dropbox

Opening files that are already in dropbox works fine from the dropbox application itself. Your edits will be synced once you save the file in Hancom.

Saving files created in Hancom is a different story. Simply placing files inside the dropbox folder is not going to make them sync, the dropbox application does not work that way and needs a 3rd party app for that kind of functionality to work. What one can do is setup Dropsync to synchronize the My Documents folder on the tablet to a folder within Dropbox itself. That way anything that is created in Hancom and saved to the My Documents folder by default will show up in that Dropbox folder on other devices.

Thats the long answer.

The short is that Hancom doesn't natively support sharing of files to other applications, it instead mimics windows apps and merely provides File-Save and File-Save-As features.

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I twice spent over 6 hours twice working on a word document with hancom word lieing and telling me that it was auto saving in dropbox and then program freezes and docu ent disappers.. screw drop box and ha com for screwing an dhurting up so many people by loosing g their hard work..
 
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    HANCOM is better than everything in every respect. Seriously its 99% microsoft office down to all those neat options I never use. It even looks like office with drop down windows and everything

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    Its the forst office suite for android that you could actually use for real work (with a bluetooth keyboard of course)

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    I like hancom but I havent been able to look at these side by side. Is this a legitimate opinion based on using both?

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    Provided you don't need advanced editing features then yes.

    As much as I think Hancom Word is one of the best of its class on Android a full replacement of Microsoft it isn't. One feature that may be critical for those in the market for a "Pro" product is track changes support. I may be wrong, but I can't find it. There's commenting but no track changes options. A simple test that I did was create a document in Word 2007 and saved it into my Dropbox with track changes turned ON. I then loaded that file with Hancom Word, edited and saved it, at which point the file was immediately updated in dropbox. At no time did Hancom Word give any indication of track changes being on, and upon opening the file back up on my workstation the edits were visible with no trace of the changes being tracked. To verify I deleted the edits that were made on the tablet from within Word 2007 on my workstation and immediately the changes were flagged as deleted. Back on the tablet, the markups were invisible BUT the space within which the deleted text should have been was still there (i.e. if I deleted 3 hard lines between two paragraphs there would still be 3 carriage returns visible between those paragraphs in Hancom Word but not visilble in word with review display options set to final).

    Lack of track changes is not a deal breaker for me since when I travel I carry my laptop and my tablet and when I'm without my laptop its because I do not intend to do serious editing, but I could see it being an issue for those looking to replace a laptop.

    To me if you must have full office compatibility get a surface pro and use office on it. This comes in second, and how close it comes is subjective based upon needs. Unfortunately there's very little information on Hancom's site to sell the product to users on its features so it's difficult for people to decide prior to purchase.
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    I work for Samsung and during my training on the new software they told me that Hancom office has approximately 60% of all the features of MS Office. It does not however have some of the programming features that some people may need, I have found out the hard way as a student needed these features and I was unable to help him out. Most people will use about 40% of MS office, so this over exceeds what the majority of people need from the software.
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    Hancom office is probably the best Office option currently available for Android tablets. BUT, it is still far from being a full replacement solution of Microsoft Office / Office 365.
    If you need to exchange files with people working with Microsoft, be aware that :
    - they won't be able to open any pptx files created in Hshow. You'd need to work in the now quite old ppt format.
    - you might lose information between Hcell and Excel.
    And note that there are some functionnalities that don't exist in Hword, such as updating a document summary, changing the hierarchy of titles ot bullet points.
    One can't work on several documents of the same format at the same time. For exemple, Hword needs to close the current document if you want to open a new one.

    There might be more, but I havn't tested everything.

    I actually find the lap top experience of the Note Pro pretty painful. I bought the Logitech Case / bt Keyboard and the S Action mouse. When using productivity tools the experience is OK, but could be better.
    For exemple:
    - it's quite impossible to cut and paste with the mouse.
    - The screen virtual keyboard keeps poping up when I click on another area of any document, even when the bt keyboard is connected...
    - When you open a document (ppt, doc, xls) from "My documents" explorer, you actualy end up with an emulation of the document (the document does not open in the appropriate app), so you can't open another document without closing the previous one...
    - When you switch between any app to Hword, you end up having control over the document menu, so when can't directly start writing on the document where you last left it...
    - There is a slight bug with the logitech keyboard : when you enter a capital letter and then press the tab key quickly, the keyboard end up switching langage instead of putting a space between your words...

    To sum it up, if you need a simple text or spreadsheet editor, Hancom Office will do a great job. But if you need a real pro productivity tool or need to work on documents edited by work colleagues on Microsoft Office, forget about it!

    As someone pointed out to me previously on the forum, I think that Samsung shouldn't have labelled this tab as a "pro" tab, even if it provides a great experience in many areas.

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    A few of your points are incorrect. Hancom can open two of the same file type simultaneously. I have hword with two docx files open right now editing both at the same time. The mouse sounds like a personal issue. I have no trouble with copy, paste, cut etc with any of my mouses Saction mouse or touchpad. The bluetooth keyboard issue can be fixed easily. Under language settings you can set it to disable the onscreen keyboard when a bt one is connected. No idea what your talking about with the document explorer either...and the logitech keyboard isnt made by samsung so you cant blame them for that one. I recommend the external keyboard helper app. That should fix the porblem very easily as well as allow you to create your own keyboard layout. Also with the pptx files that is obviously a bug that should be corrected eventually although it is currently unfortunate.i also dont beive the pro monicer is totally wrong. A great deal of people on these forums us their pros instead of their laptops and in professional environments. At least 3 run their entire classroom through it and a few like me run entire businesses through it. The 2014 was my previous device but this one makes things much better for me.

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    As a writer/journalist, I think hancom word is great, and does all I need it to do. I do most of my writing on word for the mac on my desktop mac. But now I'm using the np and Hword more than I did with my macbook air that I sold when I decided to buy the np12. I'm hoping Hword becomes available for my note 10.1 2014. I use a bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse when using hword. Btw, there is an app called big cursor. Makes work in hword much easier because the stock cursor disappears.