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By lanwarrior, Senior Member on 29th November 2006, 04:12 AM
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I have a 8525 that has been unlocked and SuperCID, with all the Cingular ExtROM stuff removed. When I use the phone with a 1 GB MicroSD, I don't see any performance issue or slowness.

However, when I upgraded to SanDisk 2GB MicroSD card, it seems to slows down the unit by about 10-20%. As a matter of fact, pressing the ON button give a delay of 1 seconds before the screen turned on!

I just want to verify if this is a known issue or I have a defective card or I need to upgrade to ROM 1.09.
29th November 2006, 05:00 AM |#2  
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Holy crap on a stick!

So that's why the Hermes is so slow to turn on when I hit the button! When I bought my Hermes (TyTN), I bought a 2GB micro the same day.. and slapped it in! It hasn't been out since, really. I definitely see your behaviour here!

Hmm. This is the reason I wanted my screen to stay on, when I'm on a call. I hate that it takes me about 2 seconds to hang up, after the call is done.

If there is some way around this problem, phone-call-long-hangup-annoyance goes away too. ;D
29th November 2006, 05:08 AM |#3  
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Hey Brad,

Thanks for the info. So it seems like this is a known problem that the device slows down with 2 GB card.

Just out of curiosity, are you running a TyTn / 8525 and what ROM version do you have?
29th November 2006, 05:10 AM |#4  
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I'm running a TyTN, but the ROM version is whatever the beast was born with. I did perform an upgrade on the radio side, and I did perform an unlock.. and I was at 1.04 out of the gate...
29th November 2006, 05:37 AM |#5  
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I have a Sandisk 2Gb MicroSD Card and running 1.35 bl1.09 Rom. I confirm when pressing the ON button gives a delay of 0.5-1 second before the screen turn on when the MicroSD Card is inserted, but I don't think it slows down the whole system. That's fine for me. No big deal!
29th November 2006, 06:02 AM |#6  
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does it make a difference if the screen turns on 0.5 to 1 second later?

I mean it will take you the same or more time to place the phone to your ear...
29th November 2006, 06:05 AM |#7  
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It may or may not, but it is ODD to someone (me) who previously saw the screen turn on INSTANTLY, and then later on saw that it doesn't. Furthermore, some slow down was experienced in overall system operation.

IN any case, this is called TROUBLESHOOTING, not about someone being picky about having the screen turn on 1 seconds later...
29th November 2006, 06:14 AM |#8  
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point taken,

microsd cards are relatively slower than the internal ROM in the hermes, therefore it is expected that performance will slow down if you have apps installed on your micrsd, or ringtones, or tsk files.

if the microsd card is purely formatted (blank) is there a performance penalty?
29th November 2006, 06:18 AM |#9  
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does it make a difference if the screen turns on 0.5 to 1 second later?

I mean it will take you the same or more time to place the phone to your ear...

Uh.

Well, first, you don't turn on the phone and then put it to your ear. If it is an incoming call, the screen turns itself on. If you're calling out, you turn on, wait, then go to phone.. then call...

As well, the phone goes to my ear in about 0.1 seconds here. ;P I'm not a 72 year old arthritic man.


Seriously though, the only reason I care, is because when I hang up, it sounds like I _am_ an addled old man! I say "bye", take the phone from my ear, press the "on" button, wait 1.2 seconds or so, then hit the end button.. and wait for the hangup. All said and done, that can get close to 2 seconds, just to hang up.

Yes, that is a long time. How long does it take me to hang up on my Treo, or on a land line? The Treo's screen is on during calls, so... perhaps .2 or .3 seconds. Landline? I hang up before I even manage to get the phone from my ear! The button is 2mm from my thumb when I'm holding the phone!

Anyhow.. someone commented in another thread that a lot of these problems are because the tech is new. Well, I'm sorry, it isn't. It's because companies aren't learning, and because Microsoft isn't developing the OS fast enough. I bought a Compaq IPAQ in 2000. Literally all of my complaints with it, about the contact system, about syncing, about backlights and leds, about dialing.. they're all still here!

MS needs to address some of these usability issues. It isn't a big deal to allow the backlight to dim more than currently, or provide for toggling leds off, or screens on during calls. It isn't a big deal to improve the contact system after 6 years.

It's just poor production values.
29th November 2006, 06:36 AM |#10  
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most of the 8525 users i have seen on this board all had the same complaint about the backlight taking 1-2 seconds to turn on.. and sorry to say mine does it with or without my sd card. my 8125 was instant.. and i would imagine after a few updates all of this will get better
29th November 2006, 08:25 AM |#11  
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microsd cards are relatively slower than the internal ROM in the hermes, therefore it is expected that performance will slow down if you have apps installed on your micrsd, or ringtones, or tsk files.

if the microsd card is purely formatted (blank) is there a performance penalty?

Yes, I am aware of the slowness od Flash memory (SD, MicroSD, MiniSD, etc.). However, I didn't have this type of slowness in my 8125, MDA, or even on the iPaqs.

I have formatted it before, but to no effect. I didn't install any "system" type file in the card, such as .tsk or ringtone that is used by the "phone" application.

On another note: when I took out the card and reinsert it, sometimes the PDA won't recognise it. I.e. nothing shown under Settings -> System -> Memory or in File Explorer.

In any case, I want to find out if I have a bad SD card.
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