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By taxilian, Member on 29th February 2008, 12:47 AM
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So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.

It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.

For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.

Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.

Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
29th February 2008, 02:46 AM |#2  
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So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.

It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.

For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.

Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.

Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?


WoW. You must be running a memory HOG program in the background to run out of memory with text messaging and the contacts program.

I have bluetooth to use with my Stereo Bluetooth head phones when I listen to Windows Media and Have the Threaded Text Messaging Software in the background running ( I text alot and I need it running in the background to initiate it faster ) all with HTC Home Plugin and I dont get any memory problems. Nothing closes out.

Do you have the X-Button program installed? The one that closes things out completely when you press the X. If so this can be the problem.

Honestly I use an Alt-Tab program to switch between programs. This helps alot.
29th February 2008, 04:25 AM |#3  
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I know exactly what you mean as far as the memory management closing applications. for example i used to be able to have tomtom running, and also audio manager playing music, however if memory is low, the management always closes audio manager. Rather annoying, i've had it do it during other programs also ie. messaging, internet explorer.
29th February 2008, 04:53 AM |#4  
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That's weird.... Possibly sending hibernate signal to programs to see if some will shut down?

I haven't noticed any apps getting closed automatically but I never try to have more than a few open at a time.
29th February 2008, 05:40 AM |#5  
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Well other then recommending that you review your installations and see if there are any memory HOG programs to remove, I also recommend using Oxios Hibernate.

Check out this website for more details.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
29th February 2008, 05:03 PM |#6  
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I have some today plugins (like SBP diary) that may be taking part of the memory. I have to blame the memory leak for the rest... on a fresh boot I have 18 meg free, by the time I start having real problems with things shutting down left and right I only have 5 free. I use QuickMenu, which has a program similar to X-Button so that I can explicitly close programs, but I can also use it to switch tasks. In WM6 it worked fine. However, unless I reboot frequently, I end up with this problem. Some things always exhibit this problem, even right after a soft reset reset. For example, if I use PIE to view a site such as youtube and I play a video clip, PIE closes in the background while the video is playing, which is very annoying.

I know that there are things to do to try to free memory... I have hibernate, I have the task manager connected to quickmenu, but I still have this problem.
29th February 2008, 05:19 PM |#7  
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I have some today plugins (like SBP diary) that may be taking part of the memory. I have to blame the memory leak for the rest... on a fresh boot I have 18 meg free, by the time I start having real problems with things shutting down left and right I only have 5 free. I use QuickMenu, which has a program similar to X-Button so that I can explicitly close programs, but I can also use it to switch tasks. In WM6 it worked fine. However, unless I reboot frequently, I end up with this problem. Some things always exhibit this problem, even right after a soft reset reset. For example, if I use PIE to view a site such as youtube and I play a video clip, PIE closes in the background while the video is playing, which is very annoying.

I know that there are things to do to try to free memory... I have hibernate, I have the task manager connected to quickmenu, but I still have this problem.

What ROM are you using? I have DCD 2.2.0 core with others mixed in and I get about 23 to 24 MB on soft boot. That is with all of my apps installed.

It might be that the page pool on your ROM is high. If it is high it tends to speed up your device but you sacrifice memory. Are you using one of DCD's new ROM's? Because I believe his new ROM's have a higher page pool then before to cope with WM6.1.
29th February 2008, 06:19 PM |#8  
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So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.

It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.

For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.

Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.

Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?

i've heard of oxios causing this phenomena, something in the way of how it alters things when you run it. I use oxios exclusively to manage my ram, and have done so for a long time. the newer dcd roms are a lot better at this, some 6.1 roms though have a terrible memory leak.
Honestly though, you really shouldnt ever have that many apps open at one time. i start to freak out when i get down to 15mb free

try to use something where you can monitor your ram on the today screen, like batterystatus today plugin along with mbutton to see the open apps in the taskbar, and oxiosw memory apps to keep it all tidy.
29th February 2008, 10:06 PM |#9  
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I'm having the same issue, but not sure it has to do with low memory. I have dcd 2.1.0 rom with Spb pocket plus 4.0, mobile shell and oxios. If I'm going from say IE to any other program and go back fairly quickly to IE it would is still active but If I'm on another program for more than a minute it closes down on its own
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Strangly having same issue here. Bus most annoying for internet sharing, and Messenger Live, can't be memory issue, nothing else is running! It just closes stuff as it feels like it.
Using Task Manager 2.0 here, no X-Button.
17th June 2008, 02:17 PM |#11  
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Mine is doing the same thing and I am running DCD 3.1 ROM. Sometimes I can have only 2 apps open and it will close the one that I am not in. Just 5 secs ago I had opera mini running and spb wallet. I had opera mini running and minimized it with the ok button and then opened SPB wallet from the start menu to get a password and when I went to go back to opera mini it was gone. This seems to be happening to me when I get ~8M of RAM left. This is very annoying. I am running quite a few programs in the background though.
SPB mobile shell 1067kb
S2u2 613kb
tmail 125kb
Wisbar Lite 65kb
Mortscript 16kb
AEB 13k
Ftouchsl 5k

I have had all these programs running before on a WM6 rom and never had this issue. and I never map the ok key to close.
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