[XDA_UC][UC][SASHIMI][S4X] S4X_Auto & S4X_Backup [DEC.02.2010] XDA_UC Mods & Answers

powinmo · Jan 18, 2011

puff601 said:
hey powinmo here is a script and reg file needed to fully import cht 2.0, lockscreen and all. i cant remember where i found the files but it took lots and lots of searching! ive tested it using energyrom's xda uc. the reg file included is what solves the issue with cht not fully importing. it wouldnt fully import before because .cht file associations are not added to the registry until cht editor is opened for the first time. that is what the included reg file does, it adds .cht file associations to the registry glad i could step in and help you out since youve helped me out so much with your scripts! thanks and keep up the great work!

Snake28 said:
Didn't work @ my HD2 with EnergyRom from 6.1.2011 (German). I matched the mscr at my path.
First it seems to work, but not all was importet. Not all rows were importet also not a fourth Site with my Contacts.

Greetings

Snake28

I do appreciate puff's effort to help with the CHT2 import issues. The REG file basically just adds the ability to run the .cht file directly without specifically running the chteditor.exe binary during the command line execution.

I've tested the REG entries on 3 different TP2s with Jan.6 and Jan.16 CHT2 ROMs from NRGZ. No go. Same issues many others are reporting in the CHT2 thread right now.

Just have to wait for the CHTE team to get around to fixing things. Otherwise stick with CHT185/CHTE1851 for something solid.

powinmo · Jan 18, 2011

vinceweis said:
Just wanted to say thanks for you guys still working on these scripts. I have ORD and need all the help I can get with tons of stuff to reinstall on every flash. I might be able to do some of this stuff but just don't have the time so I really appreciate the time you spend.

Glad you and others are still finding these scripts useful. Please continue to provide any suggestions and comments to help make it more flexible for you and the community.

powinmo · Jan 18, 2011

Version 1.62 update zip file has been posted:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10118521&postcount=287

Version 1.62 changelog:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10118557&postcount=288

I've tested this on 4 TP2 units with various flavors of Energy ROMs from Dec.27.2010, Jan.6 and Jan.16 2011. For my setup, everything appears to work as I need it.

Please let me know if there are any issues, concerns, etc. If no one has any major issues in a week or two I may provide a full package update directly to benjamminzIS to post.

vinceweis · Jan 20, 2011

powinmo said:
Glad you and others are still finding these scripts useful. Please continue to provide any suggestions and comments to help make it more flexible for you and the community.

I just used the code to flash the latest Energy ROM. I used the Full Minus backup first. Most things worked really well. It even seemed to import a lot of the cookie settings. One thing I noticed is that I was suprised to see that the Compact start menu was already loaded. It is what I normally use to save memory. What I found however was that it seemed to be operating on top of the standard start menu; ie no memory was gained. I still had to select the compact menu to get the memory I was expecting. Is there something in this code that tried to load the Compact menu but did not disable the Standard menu?

blast0id · Jan 20, 2011

vinceweis said:
I just used the code to flash the latest Energy ROM. I used the Full Minus backup first. Most things worked really well. It even seemed to import a lot of the cookie settings. One thing I noticed is that I was suprised to see that the Compact start menu was already loaded. It is what I normally use to save memory. What I found however was that it seemed to be operating on top of the standard start menu; ie no memory was gained. I still had to select the compact menu to get the memory I was expecting. Is there something in this code that tried to load the Compact menu but did not disable the Standard menu?

have you done any editing of the regexport.ini??? or did you just leave it as it is in the package? if you haven't edited it at all, then you may need to add the lines necessary to backup the compact start menu reg settings... I personally don't know where they are, and I don't have my winmo phone with me right now so I can't really look... but since you did a full minus file backup, and (probably) used just the default regexport.ini then quick menu is one of the things already in the default regexport.ini as I used it myself... but the compact start menu entries are not... sorry I can't be of more help right now, but either ask around in the energy threads if anyone knows what the reg entries are for CSM or do some digging in the registry and I'm sure you'll find it... you could also always do a hard reset, then do a full regexport, then change the compact start menu settings from the app, then do another full regexport and then compare the two regexports with winDiff or similar program (Notepad++ comes with a nice compare plugin too)

vinceweis · Jan 20, 2011

benjamminzIS said:
have you done any editing of the regexport.ini??? or did you just leave it as it is in the package? if you haven't edited it at all, then you may need to add the lines necessary to backup the compact start menu reg settings... I personally don't know where they are, and I don't have my winmo phone with me right now so I can't really look... but since you did a full minus file backup, and (probably) used just the default regexport.ini then quick menu is one of the things already in the default regexport.ini as I used it myself... but the compact start menu entries are not... sorry I can't be of more help right now, but either ask around in the energy threads if anyone knows what the reg entries are for CSM or do some digging in the registry and I'm sure you'll find it... you could also always do a hard reset, then do a full regexport, then change the compact start menu settings from the app, then do another full regexport and then compare the two regexports with winDiff or similar program (Notepad++ comes with a nice compare plugin too)

I did not do any editing. I used default on everything. Thanks, this gives me a start of where to look. It was not a big problem, just thought I would comment on it as it was about the only thing I saw as an issue for me.

powinmo · Jan 21, 2011

vinceweis said:
I did not do any editing. I used default on everything. Thanks, this gives me a start of where to look. It was not a big problem, just thought I would comment on it as it was about the only thing I saw as an issue for me.

Glad ben was able to maybe point you in the right direction.

Note that this is likely not a direct problem with the S4X_Auto.mscr scripts I have been helping to update. I can only surmise that the script is now restoring some settings that probably were ignored (bypassed) with the older versions.

But do let us know what you find in case there is some kind of collision happening we might need to address.

blast0id · Jan 21, 2011

powinmo said:
Glad ben was able to maybe point you in the right direction.

Note that this is likely not a direct problem with the S4X_Auto.mscr scripts I have been helping to update. I can only surmise that the script is now restoring some settings that probably were ignored (bypassed) with the older versions.

But do let us know what you find in case there is some kind of collision happening we might need to address.

well he said he did a full minus file backup with everything at default, and mentioned that he used compact start menu before doing the backup. it's definitely not the scripts fault, all he needs to do is put the reg entries for compact start menu into the regexport.ini before doing his next backup and it will then properly export those keys to be restored...

I'm wondering if I should leave the regexport.ini example up, and just empty the one that's actually in the package, and maybe throw a check into the backup script that throws an error "you need to edit the regexport.ini to fit your personal needs before running this backup!" if it hasn't been edited yet (is still empty). Otherwise, if people are using the default file, and they don't use at least all the programs I did, then they're going to have a lot of empty reg keys being restored, which potentially could cause some strange issues (hopefully not, but it's windows, so you never know)

powinmo · Jan 23, 2011

benjamminzIS said:
well he said he did a full minus file backup with everything at default, and mentioned that he used compact start menu before doing the backup. it's definitely not the scripts fault, all he needs to do is put the reg entries for compact start menu into the regexport.ini before doing his next backup and it will then properly export those keys to be restored...

I'm wondering if I should leave the regexport.ini example up, and just empty the one that's actually in the package, and maybe throw a check into the backup script that throws an error "you need to edit the regexport.ini to fit your personal needs before running this backup!" if it hasn't been edited yet (is still empty). Otherwise, if people are using the default file, and they don't use at least all the programs I did, then they're going to have a lot of empty reg keys being restored, which potentially could cause some strange issues (hopefully not, but it's windows, so you never know)

I knew he posted about using the backup portion of the script, but the way he worded things it was as if the restore script updates I posted were the cause of this. I just wanted folks to realize that.

I would go with your recommendation for updating the regexport.ini. There are just too many dangerous/odd things that can happen with winmo if any funky registry items are missed or imported that do not need to be. I do not use the backup scripts yet (I currently use UCMe2) so I have not had a chance to do any code review on it.

Again, appreciate you checking on the thread when time permits...

GLO · Apr 8, 2011

Hi,

Anyone still using this?

I'd love to see it up and running again.

Im particularly trying to find out what reg keys i need to back up so that all my apps are registered via these keys.

How do i find out what keys have changed when an app is registered.

powinmo · Apr 13, 2011

GLO said:
Hi,

Anyone still using this?

I'd love to see it up and running again.

Im particularly trying to find out what reg keys i need to back up so that all my apps are registered via these keys.

How do i find out what keys have changed when an app is registered.

I still use S4X quite often, but primarily for restoring after flashing a ROM. I have my own backup routines.

Search for "Kheb" here on XDA for a tool to do a diff check before and after you install an app to see the file and registry differences. I use it every so often to check this kind of stuff.

ForgetfulGuru · Apr 18, 2011

Still using it

Been using it for the last 3 or 4 ROM update.
seems todo it's job just ad described.

can't ask for more than that, was a bit of a learning curve to start with, that maybe puts off a lot of users.

As for installed apps registration code, how many you got? use a reg explorer, search for the name of the app and back up the whole key to the correct file in _mod_ (filesreg).

Happy hunting
edited due to XT9 having a laugh.

powinmo · Apr 30, 2011

ForgetfulGuru said:
Been using it for the last 3 or 4 ROM update.
seems todo it's job just ad described.

can't ask for more than that, was a bit of a learning curve to start with, that maybe puts off a lot of users.

As for installed apps registration code, how many you got? use a reg explorer, search for the name of the app and back up the whole key to the correct file in _mod_ (filesreg).

Happy hunting
edited due to XT9 having a laugh.

If you've used XDA_UC itself, dropping in S4X is not too bad. It is just a matter of rearranging your files to the proper locations at that point. Otherwise, yes there can be a learning curve, but that seems well worth it if you flash a lot and/or support friends/family with WinMo devices.

As for finding where apps register themselves, you can use the Khebs tool to run before, then after you install/reg your app to see what you need to backup... The S4X backup script should then allow you to add in those entries.

Good luck!

motisu · May 1, 2011

Hi Powinmo,

Long ago, I had a request to benjamminzIS about adding a change to the main script which would restore both the PIM.VOL file and also the PIMBACKUP file. The reason that I would like this is because I have a scheduled run of PIMBACKUP nightly at 3:00 AM to backup files and directories that contain info that I want to carry over from HR to HR. Whenever I do an HR, I first restore my PIM to get all my contacts, schedule and phone logs and then I run PIMBACKUP restore to restore the files. ATM S4X will only restore 1 of the 2 and not both. Is it possible to add this option?

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2554890

ForgetfulGuru · May 2, 2011

Yes so worth the learning

powinmo said:
If you've used XDA_UC itself, dropping in S4X is not too bad. It is just a matter of rearranging your files to the proper locations at that point. Otherwise, yes there can be a learning curve, but that seems well worth it if you flash a lot and/or support friends/family with WinMo devices.

As for finding where apps register themselves, you can use the Khebs tool to run before, then after you install/reg your app to see what you need to backup... The S4X backup script should then allow you to add in those entries.

Good luck!

Thanks for the link to Khebs tool. I tried a forum search for this after the first mention of it here, came up a blank. will be adding this to my install and making regular use of it.

You are so right about the learning curve being VERY worth it. don't think I could be bothered with updates and trying new ROMs if it were not for this fantastic set of tools.

powinmo · May 3, 2011

motisu said:
Hi Powinmo,

Long ago, I had a request to benjamminzIS about adding a change to the main script which would restore both the PIM.VOL file and also the PIMBACKUP file. The reason that I would like this is because I have a scheduled run of PIMBACKUP nightly at 3:00 AM to backup files and directories that contain info that I want to carry over from HR to HR. Whenever I do an HR, I first restore my PIM to get all my contacts, schedule and phone logs and then I run PIMBACKUP restore to restore the files. ATM S4X will only restore 1 of the 2 and not both. Is it possible to add this option?

Hello. Are you using any of the updates I posted for S4X? Release 1.61 fixed a typo (see the updates for my changelog posting) in his PIM subroutine that would have prevented the pim.vol from being restored. If you are, I did a cursory look at the source again, and from what I can tell it should process both correctly now.

I can see why you would need to do both and nothing should be preventing that now... if you are using my updates, enable the debugging/logging and post the logs for me (here or via PM is fine) to help me narrow down the issue.

ForgetfulGuru said:
Thanks for the link to Khebs tool. I tried a forum search for this after the first mention of it here, came up a blank. will be adding this to my install and making regular use of it.

You are so right about the learning curve being VERY worth it. don't think I could be bothered with updates and trying new ROMs if it were not for this fantastic set of tools.

Glad you find these tools to be a nice extension to XDA_UC and/or your automated flashing toolset. If possible, just post around when possible to let people know this tool is still actively supported on all devices, not just the Touch Pro... eg, maybe a review in a neutral device forum here.

*EDIT*
General info for all late to this thread, I am helping to maintain S4X now. Please see Post #1 updates to links to my changelog and downloads for the most current script updates. Most recent version is 1.62 for S4X_Auto.mscr as of this post.

motisu · May 3, 2011

powinmo said:
Hello. Are you using any of the updates I posted for S4X? Release 1.61 fixed a typo (see the updates for my changelog posting) in his PIM subroutine that would have prevented the pim.vol from being restored. If you are, I did a cursory look at the source again, and from what I can tell it should process both correctly now.

I can see why you would need to do both and nothing should be preventing that now... if you are using my updates, enable the debugging/logging and post the logs for me (here or via PM is fine) to help me narrow down the issue.

I know about the typo, I was the first to find it

.
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7853379&postcount=216

I am using 1.6.2

How does one turn on debugging mode?

My exact problem is that for some reason, the script doesn't find the PIM.VOL file even though it is there in the proper directory.

One more thing: I saw in the changelog that Pimbackup can be run with a MSCR file to automate the restore. Could you please upload and example of this file?

powinmo · May 6, 2011

motisu said:
I know about the typo, I was the first to find it .
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7853379&postcount=216

I am using 1.6.2

How does one turn on debugging mode?

My exact problem is that for some reason, the script doesn't find the PIM.VOL file even though it is there in the proper directory.

One more thing: I saw in the changelog that Pimbackup can be run with a MSCR file to automate the restore. Could you please upload and example of this file?

Noted about you finding the typo. Much appreciated.

Sorry, I thought I put in debugging in to these scripts, but it was for another project. The log you attached is a sufficient starting point for now.

Where exactly are you putting the PIM.VOL file? The script has it currently (I never modified it) hard coded for something like "[storage card]\xda_uc\s4x\_Mod_\PIM.VOL" where [storage card] is your local sd card location, eg "\Storage Card". It would make more sense to put it in "...\_Mod_\filesPIM" right?

Also, if you've used ".auto" files to install .cab files with custom prompts... same concept for the .mscr for automating PIMBackup.

motisu · May 6, 2011

powinmo said:
Where exactly are you putting the PIM.VOL file? The script has it currently (I never modified it) hard coded for something like "[storage card]\xda_uc\s4x\_Mod_\PIM.VOL" where [storage card] is your local sd card location, eg "\Storage Card". It would make more sense to put it in "...\_Mod_\filesPIM" right?

Also, if you've used ".auto" files to install .cab files with custom prompts... same concept for the .mscr for automating PIMBackup.

I am an IDIOT!!! " none so blind as those who will not see" IN the original version of 1.6, I found that error and corrected it to point to filesPIM, but in your updated version, because you corrected the typo, I wrongly assumed that the path was also corrected. What is missing is simply to add \filesPIM to the path and it works. Thanks for the memory jog!!!

As to the auto script, I have worked before with them, but I never used it to check/uncheck boxes, only to tab and press enter. Can you drop me an example of one and I'll modify it accordingly?

powinmo · May 9, 2011

motisu said:
I am an IDIOT!!! " none so blind as those who will not see" IN the original version of 1.6, I found that error and corrected it to point to filesPIM, but in your updated version, because you corrected the typo, I wrongly assumed that the path was also corrected. What is missing is simply to add \filesPIM to the path and it works. Thanks for the memory jog!!!

As to the auto script, I have worked before with them, but I never used it to check/uncheck boxes, only to tab and press enter. Can you drop me an example of one and I'll modify it accordingly?

No worries, just glad I could help. On the next update to S4X, I'll set it up so PIM.VOL is searched in both locations, the original for compatibility:
(1=original) _Mod_\PIM.VOL
(2=should be the proper location) _Mod_\filesPIM\PIM.VOL

I'll notate in the changelog when I get a chance to make the changes. If there's anything else anyone would like to see added/fixed/modified... now's your chance...

As for the .mscr/.auto automation of PIMBackup, I'll have to check if mine do something with the checkboxes. I may have given up due to the involvement of how much I had to the "send" commands, etc.

I think on the next update, I may do a revamp of a possible .cab installer that will include the last mortscript released (4.3b15).

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