2.38GB RAM?

[neoKushan]

Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks

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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?

No Octacore with LTE, I'm afraid. I believe (But could be wrong) that the GPU in the S800 is superior to that of the octacore. Also worth considering is that Qualcomm tends to get better dev support than Exynos.

 

[airyras]

My n900 shows 2.66 ram

 

[Ali_Ejea]

No Octacore with LTE, I'm afraid. I believe (But could be wrong) that the GPU in the S800 is superior to that of the octacore. Also worth considering is that Qualcomm tends to get better dev support than Exynos.

I have a Note 2 also, it has Mali 400... And it does not work fine with high quality games like Modern combat 4, it has lags while playing online.

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[SAVVAS.]

Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks

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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?

The N9005 which has Snapdragon S800 has a superior GPU so it is better at games! Also, it will have more support from developers here at xda but also apps and games will be more optimised generally as this S800 is more widely used in other mobiles as well.

 

[Ali_Ejea]

So finally which one would you recommend me to buy? I just want it for games and videos...

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[neoKushan]

So finally which one would you recommend me to buy? I just want it for games and videos...

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The S800, I believe, has better video support as well. I believe it's the only one capable of recording 4K video so that may be a factor. As stated above, it has a better GPU and is much more widely used (pretty much every major manufacturer has an S800 model now) so it will gain much better developer support, both from XDA and App developers. The S800 is no slouch.

 

[Ali_Ejea]

The S800, I believe, has better video support as well. I believe it's the only one capable of recording 4K video so that may be a factor. As stated above, it has a better GPU and is much more widely used (pretty much every major manufacturer has an S800 model now) so it will gain much better developer support, both from XDA and App developers. The S800 is no slouch.

Yeah... But I reffer to video playback bro...

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[neoKushan]

Yeah... But I reffer to video playback bro...

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When it comes to video playback, they're at least on par with each other. They all support the common formats and those they don't, the chip is powerful enough to decompress on the fly. I believe they both support HEVC.

 

[Ali_Ejea]

The N9005 which has Snapdragon S800 has a superior GPU so it is better at games! Also, it will have more support from developers here at xda but also apps and games will be more optimised generally as this S800 is more widely used in other mobiles as well.

Does clock speed matter? when it comes to games...

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And thanks to both of you SAVVAS and neoKushan!!! )

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[SAVVAS.]

Does clock speed matter? when it comes to games...

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And thanks to both of you SAVVAS and neoKushan!!! )

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I think GPU is the most important element, as for the CPU, it has plenty of power for anything including games.

 

[Ali_Ejea]

I think GPU is the most important element, as for the CPU, it has plenty of power for anything including games.

So I decide to buy N9005... Thanks bro :thumbup:

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[mburrieza]

Good choice. SD800 is more future proof IMHO:
*The SD800 can record and playback 4K video, the Octa can't record or playback 4k. Now it's a gimmick but next year 4k will be more used for HD playback.
* The SD800 has twice the RAM dedicated for the GPU, this will improve new games performance.
* SD800 supports LTE and also more bands in 3G.
* Exynos is only used in some Samsung devices and small makers in China, Snapdragon is used in most high end phones and not just for Android devices. Nexus 5 might use a SD800 and the new Nexus 7 uses an older SD SOC.
* Samsung is not very good documenting their chips and the dev community must do hacks or create open source drivers from scratch to make it work with AOSP. Most Samsung Devs in XDA leaved Exynos development for this.
* The SD800 is known for a very good battery life and power management. The cellular modems are integrated into the SOC. Exynos uses separate radio chips.
* Samsung already confirmed that the Octas in the S4 and N3 will not support 8 cores running at the same time due to thermal limitations. They will not even support A7 and A15 cores running at the same time. They will switch cores only in cluster mode. This was the only advantage that Samsung have IMHO (Apart from a slight GPU advantage), but seems that full big/little will not be available in this Exynos generation.

The Octa is still a great SOC, a close second. Most people will not see any difference if they keep TW Android on their phones...

 

[midnite_blue]

expect a difference

They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see [as available] is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards. ...

Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.

It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.

Like Jammol clearly explained -- though, clearly, he wasn't understood by all -- TouchWiz is going to set aside RAM dedicated to its calls, resulting in faster & less battery-draining operation than repeatedly fetching routines from flash storage. That's one of the biggest advantages of having so much RAM. If you're going to run a memory hog like TouchWiz, it's phenomenal in 2013 to still have at least 2.4Gb after the system requirements have taken their bite. That's plenty left over for most people's use. The Snapdragon variant could have been set up to give us more available RAM, but it would have been at the cost of speed and battery-charge life.

Some posters have worried -- because of different reads of available RAM on up-and-running phones -- that Note 3 variants may actually be manufactured with different amounts of RAM. We can rest assured that both of the devices being looked at in this thread come out of the factory with 3Gb LPDDR3 (Channel A+B – 12.8Gbit+12.8Gbit) RAM. As others have said, the real question is why the two have differing amounts of RAM available after servicing the system overhead.

This difference isn't all that surprising. The two phones have differently clocked CPUs, but more importantly their architectures (Krait vs ARM) use significantly different memory-addressing bandwidths and ways of sharing tasks across the cores. And they come with other chipset differences in memory allocation strategies, RAM speed, hardware assistance for virtualization... and GPUs with different clock speeds and ways of writing to the screen.

And of course the Qualcomm chipset in the N9005 has the additional tasks of handling 4G LTE services and 4K video.

Wouldn't it be odd if the two phones ended up with the same amount of available RAM?

 

[sharozkhan786]

I have the same problem with my sm-n900(international varient) do any1 know how to solve it

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[Jammol]

Like Jammol clearly explained -- though, clearly, he wasn't understood by all -- TouchWiz is going to set aside RAM dedicated to its calls, resulting in faster & less battery-draining operation than repeatedly fetching routines from flash storage. That's one of the biggest advantages of having so much RAM. If you're going to run a memory hog like TouchWiz, it's phenomenal in 2013 to still have at least 2.4Gb after the system requirements have taken their bite. That's plenty left over for most people's use. The Snapdragon variant could have been set up to give us more available RAM, but it would have been at the cost of speed and battery-charge life.

Some posters have worried -- because of different reads of available RAM on up-and-running phones -- that Note 3 variants may actually be manufactured with different amounts of RAM. We can rest assured that both of the devices being looked at in this thread come out of the factory with 3Gb LPDDR3 (Channel A+B – 12.8Gbit+12.8Gbit) RAM. As others have said, the real question is why the two have differing amounts of RAM available after servicing the system overhead.

This difference isn't all that surprising. The two phones have differently clocked CPUs, but more importantly their architectures (Krait vs ARM) use significantly different memory-addressing bandwidths and ways of sharing tasks across the cores. And they come with other chipset differences in memory allocation strategies, RAM speed, hardware assistance for virtualization... and GPUs with different clock speeds and ways of writing to the screen.

And of course the Qualcomm chipset in the N9005 has the additional tasks of handling 4G LTE services and 4K video.

Wouldn't it be odd if the two phones ended up with the same amount of available RAM?

Thank you so much for detailing that. After reading so many of the 'nonsense', it wasn't clicking for them.

People fail to realize that dedicated ram is never shown to the user and will never be shown or available for use.

I remember the first time I got an android phone and saw the available ram. I was like wtf, but did some research and learned of the way android handles ram. It's actually not that different from IOS. Same principle, different way to actually do it.

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[micxploed]

You won't utilize all the ram unless you intentionally do so. Why even bother worrying about it.

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