4.4.4 ( Download Mode )

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Check out these images of my downloader before and after I updated to 4.4.4 does yours look like this ?




The image on the right with the blue lettering is after the update. Notice the change in text for the KNOX WARRANTY and KNOX KERNEL LOCK is missing. I want back to 4.4.2 twice and got the same results. The first time I attempted to go back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 it boot looped on the restart. I was wondering if anybody has tried to go back, and had this problem? I finally got 4.4.2 to stick, but it wasn't easy.
 
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Check out these images of my downloader before and after I updated to 4.4.4 does yours look like this ?




The image on the right with the blue lettering is after the update. Notice the change in text for the KNOX WARRANTY and KNOX KERNEL LOCK is missing. I want back to 4.4.2 twice and got the same results. The first time I attempted to go back to 4.4.2 from 4.4.4 it boot looped on the restart. I was wondering if anybody has tried to go back, and had this problem? I finally got 4.4.2 to stick, but it wasn't easy.
i am still stuck at boot looped looking at sprint 4g logo, flash back to nc5 from 4.4.4 now i am stuck please help, this is my fourth time of flashing the stock rom 4.4.2 and still stuck
 
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i am still stuck at boot load flash back to nc5 from 4.4.4 now i am stuck please help
I definitely understand, I was there yesterday !!! This is how I fixed it. I am going to assume you know how to hold the buttons to get into the modes. First, pull the battery then reinsert. Now go to download mode, and reflash the recovery that you where using with 4.4.2 i.e. CWM or TWRP. Now pull the battery then reinsert. Go to the recovery you installed, and wipe the ROM, CACHE, and DELVIK CACHE just like you where going to install new ROM. Use the recovery to boot into download mode or pull the battery and reinstall, and go to download mode. Install drivers on PC and use Odin version 1.85 here is the link http://www.downloadodin.info/download-odin-1-85 flash a fresh copy of NC5 4.4.2 here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205 this will get you back to 4.4.2, which is where I'm going to stay till they get some of the bugs out. Never could get CWM recovery to stick after updated to 4.4.4, let me know how it goes.
 
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i am still stuck at boot looped looking at sprint 4g logo, flash back to nc5 from 4.4.4 now i am stuck please help, this is my fourth time of flashing the stock rom 4.4.2 and still stuck
Man, that sounds familiar I did the same thing. After the fourth attempt I realized the baseband or bootloader was corrupt. So I used kind of the back door to go in and WIPE everything, and start over.
 
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I definitely understand, I was there yesterday !!! This is how I fixed it. I am going to assume you know how to hold the buttons to get into the modes. First, pull the battery then reinsert. Now go to download mode, and reflash the recovery that you where using with 4.4.2 i.e. CWM or TWRP. Now pull the battery then reinsert. Go to the recovery you installed, and wipe the ROM, CACHE, and DELVIK CACHE just like you where going to install new ROM. Use the recovery to boot into download mode or pull the battery and reinstall, and go to download mode. Install drivers on PC and use Odin version 1.85 here is the link http://www.downloadodin.info/download-odin-1-85 flash a fresh copy of NC5 4.4.2 here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205 this will get you back to 4.4.2, which is where I'm going to stay till they get some of the bugs out. Never could get CWM recovery to stick after updated to 4.4.4, let me know how it goes.
i odin flash stock nc5 4.4.2 now am stock at sprint logo
 

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i odin flash stock nc5 4.4.2 now am stock at sprint logo
Ok, you did use Odin to reinstall the original recovery that you had before you updated to 4.4.4 correct ? Which recovery did you install ? Did you WIPE the ROM, wiping just the cache and delvik cache won't do it. You need to wipe everything. Go through the process again to make sure everything sticks. Also remember it will take a few minutes on the first boot just like it did when the phone was new.
 

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Ok, you did use Odin to reinstall the original recovery that you had before you updated to 4.4.4 correct ? Which recovery did you install ? Did you WIPE the ROM, wiping just the cache and delvik cache won't do it. You need to wipe everything. Go through the process again to make sure everything sticks. Also remember it will take a few minutes on the first boot just like it did when the phone was new.
i first odin flash NC5_OEM_BL.tar.md5 and then odin flash the stock rom i know at this point i no longer have root , booted to sprint logo that is where am at right now waiting for miracles. if i can get new 4.4.4. stock rom to odin i will be fine

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i first odin flash NC5_OEM_BL.tar.md5 and then odin flash the stock rom i know at this point i no longer have root , booted to sprint logo that is where am at right now waiting for miracles. if i can get new 4.4.4. stock rom to odin i will be fine
finally got it to work, i just power+home+volume up took me to the stock recovery then i did a factory reset, voila.Thank you jimzweb1, i was in the panic mode again thank you for bringing me back to life, you rock !!!!. peace.
 
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i first odin flash NC5_OEM_BL.tar.md5 and then odin flash the stock rom i know at this point i no longer have root , booted to sprint logo that is where am at right now waiting for miracles. if i can get new 4.4.4. stock rom to odin i will be fine
I am not familiar with NC5_OEM_BL.tar.md5 you are using. If you are trying to keep the sprint logo you can always change the CSC code. Don't worry about trying to match md5's. Just try and use the links I gave you, the instructions are in the NC5 thread on the how to change the zip into a tar file and Odin will match md5's during the NC5 install. Let me know how its going.
 

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i first odin flash NC5_OEM_BL.tar.md5 and then odin flash the stock rom i know at this point i no longer have root , booted to sprint logo that is where am at right now waiting for miracles. if i can get new 4.4.4. stock rom to odin i will be fine

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finally got it to work, i just power+home+volume up took me to the stock recovery then i did a factory reset, voila.Thank you jimzweb1, i was in the panic mode again thank you for bringing me back to life, you rock !!!!. peace.
Awesome !!! I know what that panic mode is like.
 
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No only when i first rooted 4.4.4 then tripping knox counts

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Guys make sure when using Odin, that you are using a good, usb cord .. Use thr one that came with the phone if you can, or its equal.. DO NOT USE any of those cheepies from the corner store.. They will ruin your day...
 

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Very helpful info. Thx..
Thanks, don't see where a flash counter (KNOX) has anything to do with the (KNOX) program which secures data with an encrypted container to send to another location ? So, the most likely explanation is Samsung and the NSA are just gathering a little info for personal use !!! Lol
 

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JimWebz,
Ironically I came across your post. I tried to go from NH7 to NC5 and was stuck in the treacherous bootloop, whoo it was scary especially for a N00B, but I had enough sense to go to my previous posts that you and others have commented on to find Micmars completely stock NH7, followed his instructions and voila! Back in buisness, now forget using Towelroot, going back to NC5 was the biggest pain, and damn near scary! Chainfire here I come!!!!
 

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JimWebz,
Ironically I came across your post. I tried to go from NH7 to NC5 and was stuck in the treacherous bootloop, whoo it was scary especially for a N00B, but I had enough sense to go to my previous posts that you and others have commented on to find Micmars completely stock NH7, followed his instructions and voila! Back in buisness, now forget using Towelroot, going back to NC5 was the biggest pain, and damn near scary! Chainfire here I come!!!!
Yes it happens a lot. Going back to NC5 usually ends up in a bootloop, it did for me. The easiest way out of it, is to pull the battery and boot into recovery. If you have a stock recovery the do a factory reset. Then check and see what version of KiKat your on ( i.e. did you make back to NC5 or are you still on NH7 ). If your still on Nh7 use odin to flash again it should take the second time. OR, if you still have a custom recovery then wipe your entire OS, cache, and delvik cache as if you are going to install a new rom. Then power down device completely then boot into download mode and odin flash NC5 again and it take now.

I run Stock Rooted 4.4.2 NC5 with Philz custom CWM version 6.12.9 hltespr. I ran NH7 4.4.4 rooted for about a week, I didn't have any major problems but a lot of other people where. So went back to NC5 which for me has always been rock solid.
 
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Hey Jimwebz,
I have a question, saw this minor detail and wonder if it's the cause of bootlooping. The official Sprint build is N900PVPUDNC5 while the one's on XDA available from those posts are N900PVPUCNC5 PUC instead of PUD. Is there a difference?
Thanks man!
 

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Hey Jimwebz,
I have a question, saw this minor detail and wonder if it's the cause of bootlooping. The official Sprint build is N900PVPUDNC5 while the one's on XDA available from those posts are N900PVPUCNC5 PUC instead of PUD. Is there a difference?
Thanks man!
Near as I can figure it's a typo ? Should be N900PVPUCNC5 which is 4.4.2 NC5, and it should be N900PVPUDNH7 which is 4.4.4 NH7. I wish it was the cause, but idone says the cause is not letting the device finish a full install including the stock recovery. I'm not sure, but going back is just a bootloop and it is easy to correct. So I am going to hang out on NC5 it is still a rock solid base for a daily driver, then I can mess around with roms like Priest Punch and some of the cool themes that have come out !!!
 
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