5.1 upgrade killed my wifi hotspot on verizon

JustusIV

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I did a 100% clean flash using the factory images. I pay for the hotspot service but when i go to use it it give the error "Your order could not be processed" anyone else having similiar issues?
 

DebianDog

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Did you flash the Google image or the Verizon image? if its the Google Image I would think you would have to edit the same files you did to make it work in 5. 0. 1.

My hotspot never worked 'out of the box' so to speak. but I am grandfathered in with the unlimited plan so I'm not sure the right answer is.

Sent from my Nexus 6
 

JustusIV

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Ok i just got off the phone with Verizon apparently it they were not billing me and when i spoke to them yesterday about advanced calling they must have turned it off.
So disregard this information.
 
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Ok i just got off the phone with Verizon apparently it they were not billing me and when i spoke to them yesterday about advanced calling they must have turned it off.
So disregard this information.
Next question is "why would you pay $29.99 a month for something you can change in the build.prop for free?" I understand that you want to be legal but you are paying for your data already, why pay again? I already give them $292.00 a month for 4 lines and only one grandfathered unlimited, I refuse to give them anymore for my data.
 

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A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it.... Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
 

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Well its common practice to charge extra for tethering even in the UK. You pay for "unlimited data" but that package is to be designed to be used from a mobile handset. As soon as they allow you to tether, that changes from a mobile handset to home broadband and the propensity to massively saturate the cell network increases dramatically when the connecting device is an actual computer compared to a mobile device. I'm in two minds about this, where I believe I should be able to use data for what I want of its unlimited. That said, if everyone tethered, my mobile data experience would be much poorer. It is what it is.
 

DebianDog

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A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it.... Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
There is no app, it's built in, if you are on Verizon edit 2 system files and done. It is an option to enable in the pull downs.

Yes people were abusing it back when it was unlimited but those plans only exist on the business side now.

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elliott35

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Just add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to the biuld.prop. No need to pay for tether. I have unlimited data and use the theater for free on my vz nex6
 
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JulesJam

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Yes, I am not sure how it is legal for them to charge you extra for a hotspot. Even if I had plan that had X gigabytes a month I don't think it is very fair to charge me extra to use my X amount of data however I please. Pretty amazing after the FCC gave them the smackdown over this.
What that consent decree was about was Verizon pressuring Google to remove the tethering apps from the play store. Clearly Verizon is not allowed to do that. What is not clear is whether or not Verizon can pressure the device manufacturers to put software on the devices that allow Verizon to do a subscription check and deny the user the ability to use the MHS functionality of the device w/o paying money to Verizon. I suspect if the FCC thought that was illegal, they would have included that as part of the consent decree.

The FCC isn't a court though so to know for sure if a court would find it a violation of the Block C restrictions, someone would have to have standing to sue the FCC to enforce the Block C license restrictions under a writ of mandamus. An owner of a device who was subscriber of Verizon under a legacy plan would have standing to sue but they would have to want to spend the money to sue the FCC. There would be no damages to recover from the FCC so you would be paying out of pocket for this with no chance of a monetary recovery to recoup the costs of litigation.

If you won, all you would get out of it is an order from the FCC ordering Verizon to stop pressuring the manufacturers to put software like that on devices and maybe you could get an order ordering Verizon to work with the manufacturers to update the software on the devices that already have the blocking software on them. And you may lose if your legal arguments aren't strong. So obviously, that is why no one does it.

Having said that, it is PERFECTLY LEGAL for you to mod the device and/or use an app to unblock the devices MHS functionality on your own and there is nothing Verizon can do to stop you.

I guess if you go with the "Share Everything" plan the hotspot is included.
Yes, the More Everything plans have capped data but MHS functionality is not blocked on the device.

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A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it....
That's debatable. However, like I pointed out above, if the FCC thought that Verizon was violating the terms of the block C license restrictions by doing that, I am sure they would have included it in the earlier consent decree. As I also pointed out above, the FCC isn't the last word on what is a violation of the block C license restrictions. But no one else is going to bother doing anything about it.

Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
How is it only $10 for the MHS for you?

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Yes people were abusing it back when it was unlimited but those plans only exist on the business side now.
That's not true. I have 5 UDP lines on a consumer account.

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Just add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to the biuld.prop. No need to pay for tether. I have unlimited data and use the theater for free on my vz nex6
Do you know does that stop the subscription check entirely so that a query never gets sent to Verizon?
 
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JulesJam

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Really I can go out and buy an unlimited (consumer) plan on Verizon right now? I don't think so.
No but you can't buy a business unlimited plan any longer either.

You said UDP only exists on the business plans. Anyone who had UDP when Verizon eliminated the option can keep it be it a business or a consumer account. But no new UDP lines except during the Apple glitch.
 
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