5G in NYC Sep 26th!!!!!!

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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...20190929_183133.jpg20190929_183011.jpg

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Ok folks, don't say I didn't try. Was driving back from Pelham Manor, NY to Ridgewood, NJ - I stopped in and drove around the Bronx for a while in the Pelham Bay area - Verizon - disappointing, 4G was even faster sometimes than the 5G...View attachment 4831409View attachment 4831411

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Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
 
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Shocker there. Buying a 5G phone right now is a waste unless you're doing it for the cool factor. The rang me for uwb 5g is so short. Consistent signal is just not there. Hopefully that improved. That sub 6 stuff seems the way to go, too bad speeds aren't quite there.
Consistent speed definitely not there even though the signal is very strong. The problem is that anything almost can block the signal and they are going to have to have antennas all over the place (and very close together) to cover all locations. Buying a phone with 5G is not a waste now, frequencies to be used will not change (why would they change after the phones are already sold and they're starting to roll out the antennas and they're already set up in various cities, that's a ridiculous assumption), people on this forum already told me it'll take years do even get the test, and here I am already testing it. The newer version of the antenna and receiver is not some experimental thing that will have to be changed; and in Chicago people already got wireless speeds over 1GB.

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Frequencies will not change but better directional technology will develop that current phones will NOT be able to take advantage of. And frequencies will be added as they expand range. Again, current phones will not be able to take advantage of any of that.

At the moment, 5G NR supports 2x2 MIMO and 64 QAM, or two layers and six bits per symbol. But the technology supports 4x4 MIMO on handsets and even massive MIMO at the base station level, as well as more efficient types of coding. We just have to wait for devices and capabilities to evolve.

So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.
 
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So I repeat, pointless to purchase 5g phones that will become antiquated within a couple years. Especially since you can barely use them now.

LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries! ;)


HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough. :)


Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while. ;)
 

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LOL I change phones faster than shoes here, no worries! ;)


HOWEVER, where I live I don't think 5G will be relevant for a while like a DECADE or more. 700Mbps both ways on wifi is good enough. :)


Finally, after seeing over 200Mbps on LTE in places, it doesn't really make that much difference to most folks. I'll be interested when I can see 500/500+ on 5G WITHOUT the need for looking for a charger by lunchtime. Guess that's going to be a while. ;)
Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?Screenshot_20191013-154110_Speedtest.jpg

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Decade. Yep. How about this afternoon?View attachment 4843471

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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. ;) (5G KILLS battery life!)


TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
 

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That's fine but I guarantee you those speeds aren't going to be there every time you run that. Walk a block over and, yep, gone!
The upload is quite slow. And see there lies the chief issue. If I'm out and about taking pics and using dropbox to u/l in the background the 30-40mbps upload I get *not* in non 4G area prevails. And like a muscle car, one sees the fuel needle dipping with every burnout. ;) (5G KILLS battery life!)


TBH I'm kind of fed up with all this push for 5G when there are a lot of areas that barely get enough signal to make a call! I'd rather have solid LTE coverage with BIG backhauls serving cells. Then they can worry about 5G. JMHO of course.
Agreed. There other tests I did where the upload was much higher... But it is all over the place (inconsistent)

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