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Geoffxx

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I like to hear from people who have a 64gb SD card in the Z1 and was it new and did it work straight away - I'm starting to think my phone may have a defect or there is a bug in the drivers/HW for the card

I have a 16gb SD card working perfectly but the 64gb that I used in my XZ then transferred to my XZU was fine until I put it in the Z1

So any experience to share would be great
 
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Is the new 64gb SanDisk extreme work on z1? Cause I'm planning to get one and they are really expensive... Don't want to open the package and can not return.

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Geoffxx

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Is the new 64gb SanDisk extreme work on z1? Cause I'm planning to get one and they are really expensive... Don't want to open the package and can not return.

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waste of money IMO - there is no need for it on a phone - maybe someone will justify it to you but I can't
 
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waste of money IMO - there is no need for it on a phone - maybe someone will justify it to you but I can't

Why is that? The specs said it can read 80mb/s and write 50mb/s. It is over kill for recording 4k video? Or the ultra do just fine. I know I can't record 4k now but this phone is capable once we unlock the feature right?

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Why is that? The specs said it can read 80mb/s and write 50mb/s. It is over kill for recording 4k video? Or the ultra do just fine. I know I can't record 4k now but this phone is capable once we unlock the feature right?

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It depends on the bitrate of the video (compression) recorded as well as the max write speed of the device.

While you are right about 4k video needing more bandwidth, it's not as bad as you think. If you look at this article about streaming 4k video I think it is unlikely that a mobile device will go over 20 Mbit/s for 4k video. That means a write speed of 1.25 mb/s is sufficient (with a little overhead, 2 mb/s would suffice).

Even if we take the worst case, the Bluray 1080p rate (which is at most 40 Mbit/s) multiplied by 4 for the 4K resolution, you still get a bitrate of 160 Mbit/s which is equals 20mb/s.

A write speed 50 mb/s is over-kill for anything other than a professional DSLR (for bursts of raw photo's), or a camera that records uncompressed video (like a Canon 1Dc or Epic RED). But even for a lot of those devices, the write speed is overkill because of hardware limitations. For example, the cardcontroller in my DSLR (a Pentax K-5) is "only" capable of writing at 30 mb/s, so anything over that is just a waste anyway.

Think of it this way: at 50 mb/s your 64 Gb card would be full after 21 minutes of recording, which I think is unlikely for a cellphone.

Hope this helps you save some money ;)
 
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hasona

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It depends on the bitrate of the video (compression) recorded as well as the max write speed of the device.

While you are right about 4k video needing more bandwidth, it's not as bad as you think. If you look at this article about streaming 4k video I think it is unlikely that a mobile device will go over 20 Mbit/s for 4k video. That means a write speed of 1.25 mb/s is sufficient (with a little overhead, 2 mb/s would suffice).

Even if we take the worst case, the Bluray 1080p rate (which is at most 40 Mbit/s) multiplied by 4 for the 4K resolution, you still get a bitrate of 160 Mbit/s which is equals 20mb/s.

A write speed 50 mb/s is over-kill for anything other than a professional DSLR (for bursts of raw photo's), or a camera that records uncompressed video (like a Canon 1Dc or Epic RED). But even for a lot of those devices, the write speed is overkill because of hardware limitations. For example, the cardcontroller in my DSLR (a Pentax K-5) is "only" capable of writing at 30 mb/s, so anything over that is just a waste anyway.

Think of it this way: at 50 mb/s your 64 Gb card would be full after 21 minutes of recording, which I think is unlikely for a cellphone.

Hope this helps you save some money
Yeah all this is true but if he has a usb 3.0 connected card reader to his PC he could transfer files a lot faster - that is of course if he is willing to plug the card out from the phone everytime he wants to connect it to the PC.

I bought one 32gb Extreme Sandisk card and if you transfer over movies/music A LOT and have a usb 3.0 connected card reader then this card is the best. But if it just for normal stuff on the phone(4k which will not need 80mb/S anyway) then the phone will probably not be fast enough to be using the complete power of the card and you just paid for something that you won't even use fully

Actually the cards is even faster then promoted(large files)
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Dpk1

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I like to hear from people who have a 64gb SD card in the Z1 and was it new and did it work straight away - I'm starting to think my phone may have a defect or there is a bug in the drivers/HW for the card

I have a 16gb SD card working perfectly but the 64gb that I used in my XZ then transferred to my XZU was fine until I put it in the Z1

So any experience to share would be great

Yeah, I have a sandisk 64gb sdxc (class 10) bought almost a year ago. Used it with Note 2 & XZ with no problems. Now using it with the Z1 straight away from XZ, no issues. It was in ex-fat format though (with the latest XZ firmware).
 
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Thanks. I'll get one of those. It will be future proof for awhile. Until the 64bg extreme pro releases. It is possible to make 64gb extreme pro? I mean they already have 32gb extreme pro. I don't know why they don't release the pro version for 64gb as well if they do making it.

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