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Vreel

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I have received my AAWireless unit a couple of weeks ago. I use the device on a 2015 VW passat B8 with a MIB2 unit and an Oneplus 8T. After the initial setup and some fiddling around I got it up and running but soon came across the random disconnection problems. I had encountered the same problem when I first tried to use my current phone with cable connection. I strongly believe now that the problem with my setup and probably other similar setups is totally cable dependent. The included cable was not working for me neither a couple of new ones I got from ali recently. A cable included with my previous phone charger (or tablet, can't really remember) was the right one. I have tested it for the last five days including a 4 hour journey today and I had so far zero disconnects, slow start ups or any kind of lags.
So check your cables guys!
 
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Snirpo

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I have received my AAWireless unit a couple of weeks ago. I use the device on a 2015 VW passat B8 with a MIB2 unit and an Oneplus 8T. After the initial setup and some fiddling around I got it up and running but soon came across the random disconnection problems. I had encountered the same problem when I first tried to use my current phone with cable connection. I strongly believe now that the problem with my setup and probably other similar setups is totally cable dependent. The included cable was not working for me neither a couple of new ones I got from ali recently. A cable included with my previous phone charger (or tablet, can't really remember) was the right one. I have tested it for the last five days including a 4 hour journey today and I had so far zero disconnects, slow start ups or any kind of lags.
So check your cables guys!
Well we did exchange the cable in the newer batch because we had to. I guess the new cable (with purple connector) could have something to do with the MIB2 issues.
 
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Snirpo

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Any recommended cable to use? I did try the cable that came along with the set on my oneplus 7 pro. It works perfectly but not on AAWireless.
There's no recommended cable to use sadly. Some people have issues with the supplied one, others have issues with others and the supplied is the only one that works. For most it doesn't matter which cable they use.

I realize I have to be a bit careful what I'm saying to not blow things up. To clarify: These cases are very specific, for most people there are no issues. There are a lot of different head units, in a lot of different cars with different hardware and software variances. It's extremely hard to pinpoint exact issues because of this.
For sure there are more issues on some head units in general then others, but it's not like the all the devices (or cables) from the newest batch will not work with (in this case) MIB2 head units.
 
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stan79

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There's no recommended cable to use sadly. Some people have issues with the supplied one, others have issues with others and the supplied is the only one that works. For most it doesn't matter which cable they use.

I realize I have to be a bit careful what I'm saying to not blow things up. To clarify: These cases are very specific, for most people there are no issues. There are a lot of different head units, in a lot of different cars with different hardware and software variances. It's extremely hard to pinpoint exact issues because of this.
For sure there are more issues on some head units in general then others, but it's not like the all the devices (or cables) from the newest batch will not work with (in this case) MIB2 head units.
Yes, I do agreed with U. VW MIB2 is cable dependant even using wired connection on AA. I have 2 original OnePlus cables but they don't work well.
 

Vreel

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There's no recommended cable to use sadly. Some people have issues with the supplied one, others have issues with others and the supplied is the only one that works. For most it doesn't matter which cable they use.

I realize I have to be a bit careful what I'm saying to not blow things up. To clarify: These cases are very specific, for most people there are no issues. There are a lot of different head units, in a lot of different cars with different hardware and software variances. It's extremely hard to pinpoint exact issues because of this.
For sure there are more issues on some head units in general then others, but it's not like the all the devices (or cables) from the newest batch will not work with (in this case) MIB2 head units.
I also agree with you that's why I mentioned my specific car + head-unit + phone setup (MIB2 and oneplus 8T). With my previous phone (pocophone F1) I didn't have any problems using a wired connection to the MIB2 unit. With the 8T I had all sorts of problems from day 1, from connection failures to lagging and random disconnections until I found a suitable working usb cable for my setup. So the solution to my AAwireless & head unit combo was kinda obvious that it was cable dependent.
 

smurteira

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Could you pass me your device name (AAWireless-xxxx). I'm curious from which manufacturer the head units in both cars is.

Got it, the 2018 VW has a Delphi HU == good.
2017 VW has a Technisat HU, in general these head units suck (for AA). However the VAG fix should help, you could try to turn it off and see what happens, or try passthrough mode.
I tried those settings and just about every other setting, including changing the DPI and still have disconnects. Unfortunately VW doesn't seem to have fw updates for their USA units, at least not that I could find.
 

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I tried those settings and just about every other setting, including changing the DPI and still have disconnects. Unfortunately VW doesn't seem to have fw updates for their USA units, at least not that I could find.
Spent some more time today and tried 5 different cables, one of them the original cable sent by Samsung and still no luck, tried different settings and still no luck. I'm convinced the issue is between the MIB 2 HU and AAWireless. Hopefully it will get fixed in the next release.
 

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Spent some more time today and tried 5 different cables, one of them the original cable sent by Samsung and still no luck, tried different settings and still no luck. I'm convinced the issue is between the MIB 2 HU and AAWireless. Hopefully it will get fixed in the next release.
Not sure but it seems that the shorter the cable the better it is? More electric power to the AAWireless? None of the 1m cables even the original oneplus cable are able to fully boot up AAWireless beyond blinking green or blue light. Only the supplied one which 50cm long is able just that it will disconnect within seconds.

Another question that I had is whether a real USB 3.0 type a to USB 3.1 type c cable vs a USB 2.0 type a to USB 3.1 type c cable makes a difference? Basically a USB 3.0 cable will have a much bigger bandwidth for data vs USB 2.0 cable.
 

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You also want to make sure it's a cable with a good rating for data. Any old cheap cable is sold for charging, but you want one with good data transmission, the kind you would use if you were doing things like updating the FW on your PC.

I'm still looking at a cable in the 30cm range, I don't need it long at all.
 

kgollop

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Not sure but it seems that the shorter the cable the better it is? More electric power to the AAWireless? None of the 1m cables even the original oneplus cable are able to fully boot up AAWireless beyond blinking green or blue light. Only the supplied one which 50cm long is able just that it will disconnect within seconds.

Another question that I had is whether a real USB 3.0 type a to USB 3.1 type c cable vs a USB 2.0 type a to USB 3.1 type c cable makes a difference? Basically a USB 3.0 cable will have a much bigger bandwidth for data vs USB 2.0 cable.
I was getting constant disconnects with a 10cm cable that was previously working flawlessly for wired connection. Since switching to the supplied cable I've had no issues
 

stan79

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You also want to make sure it's a cable with a good rating for data. Any old cheap cable is sold for charging, but you want one with good data transmission, the kind you would use if you were doing things like updating the FW on your PC.

I'm still looking at a cable in the 30cm range, I don't need it long at all.
The question is how do u tell if it is a good cable for data transmission? Look for minimum an USB 3.0 cable?
 

Genebaby

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Sometimes cables have their throughput specs on sites, other times it's pot luck and looking at reviews.

For me, I had good, then bad luck with my 30cm cables from before and ended up back to the supplied cable, from the very start of production, but it is just too much cable down there for my liking long term.

To save you reading everything, things were fine with my shorter cables, till one drive they weren't and I tested and things worked with the original cable, so I'm still using it.
 

benhur06

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On many of the devices, the USB port is a bit too far back, or the cover is a bit too thick. It takes a USB cable with a longer reach on the USB-C connector to make a solid connection.

You also want to make sure it's a cable with a good rating for data. Any old cheap cable is sold for charging, but you want one with good data transmission, the kind you would use if you were doing things like updating the FW on your PC.

I'm still looking at a cable in the 30cm range, I don't need it long at all.
I suggest you to read my post here:
 

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For those asking what cables work, I use a short one branded "ugreen" from AliExpress. I actually use their cables for all my tech to be honest because they've always worked great. I'm not affiliated in any way, just wanting to give some advice that may help people... Using aawireless on my late 2018 Holden zb commodore (Buick Regal/Opel Insignia in other countries) zero disconnection issues, connects fast etc.
 

HansWursT619

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Is there a manual connect/disconnect option other than powering off the device?
Sometimes the connection does not automatically connect.

Could this be an option in the app?


Secondly. Is there a way to disable wired android auto? When connected to charg both options are displayed in my headunit and I am not sure if this is causing any issues. The phone is already set to "charging only", but that does not seem to work.
 

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    @Snirpo
    when are feature improvements and new features going to be tackled? It was several months back that you said that they would be tackled after the new version of the start/stop feature was released but we are still waiting for this. Surely Gen2 has been resolved now.
    Gen2 has not been resolved yet, we are very close but not there yet. That's why we are producing 16k Gen1 units now (with a lot of effort to actually get components), to fill the gap and finally get off Indiegogo.
    Gen2 is a huge risk for us, we don't want to mess it up. We are planning to produce Gen2 in large quantities (20k+) batches. If we mess up a 20k batch of devices we can bassicly pack up and go.
    We already felt the pain of messing up a batch (batch 2) and this was only one of 6k units.
    I'm sorry it might seem like we are not doing much, but in the background a lot is going on, not only technically.
    Features will come, and they will come this year. But I cannot give any short term deadlines anymore.

    On the app side, if you want to test bleeding edge builds you can join here: https://appdistribution.firebase.dev/i/5196d378c8e122d7

    I might also set up the same thing for the board-side. Only there it's a bit trickier, because of the chance of "bricking" the device.
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    Hello guys. I don't know if this was already discussed, so I'll try to find the answer with your help. So, how can I set that the AA to start only when I start the car, and to completely stop when I stop the engine? The thing is that every time I approach the car (and the usb gets powered), AA starts and prompts on my phone. Also, when I leave the car and get away from it, AA on the phone takes a while to autoclose, since the car usb s are still powered, I guess.
    Hope I managed to explain what I am looking for :)
    The car is a Renault Megane 4 GT with rlink 2 v9 and the phone is a Samsung Note 20

    L.E. since the AA wireless is on even after I exit the car, any phone call is routed to the AA/car BT and not directly on my mobile phone and I can not hear anything (since its being routed through the car speakers)
    To anyone with this issue, you can make a workaround using an app like tasker (or macrodroid which is easier to use) and create a profile.
    For example, I remote start my car so I'm moving in and out of range for AAwireless and Bluetooth. So my "profile is to wait for Bluetooth to connect to my car, then open/launch android auto which then triggers aawirelessly. I make a 2nd profile that once my Bluetooth connection disconnects from my car (car turns off) the profile kills android auto and disconnects from AAwireless wifi. Works great (my car's USB powers on when unlocking car or opening car doors etc)
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    I drove 10 hours in the last two days, using AAW constantly (Youtube Music, Audible, TuneIn, phone calls and Google Maps) and it worked absolutely flawless in my Skoda Kodiaq (2017) with a Pixel 5. I'm really happy with the device!
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    Posted via Indiegogo and thought I would post here too. Glad to hear you’ve managed to move forward with production again. I’m not asking for an ETA – more of a timeline, do you have an idea when there will be updates to the firmware/app for those who have received their devices? I understand you want to get devices shipped but if you are amongst the group that has bugs/issues with the current firmware, this device is pretty much being used as a paperweight. Once again, I'm not trash talking this device because I love it while it works but some transparency on the development side would be nice since we only hear about the manufacturing side on Indiegogo
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    Hello guys. I don't know if this was already discussed, so I'll try to find the answer with your help. So, how can I set that the AA to start only when I start the car, and to completely stop when I stop the engine? The thing is that every time I approach the car (and the usb gets powered), AA starts and prompts on my phone. Also, when I leave the car and get away from it, AA on the phone takes a while to autoclose, since the car usb s are still powered, I guess.
    Hope I managed to explain what I am looking for :)
    The car is a Renault Megane 4 GT with rlink 2 v9 and the phone is a Samsung Note 20

    L.E. since the AA wireless is on even after I exit the car, any phone call is routed to the AA/car BT and not directly on my mobile phone and I can not hear anything (since its being routed through the car speakers)
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    This thread is dedicated for AAWireless users.

    AAWireless is a device which allows you to transform your existing wired Android Auto compatible unit into a Wireless Android Auto unit.

    General chat, experience sharing and community support should be expected as well as support from the developers of the product: @Snirpo and myself.
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    We fixed the "VW Headunit crashing on skipping tracks" issue now completely. Confirmed it's a bug on the HU side, latency makes it worse. We will probably push a new firmware by the end of this week.
    I will also submit a bug report to Google, cause they can fix/workaround this issue as well for cabled users.
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    Hello. What's new in 1.5?
    A full changelog for each release would really be appreciated :)
    Thanks for all the hard work!
    Yes, I'll write a full changelog next week from 1.0.0 to 1.5.0 and put it on GitHub + add a link in the app.
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    I've already waited patiently for delivery 3 months more than expected - I ordered In April and was coming in June but now that's looking like October. Now I read on the indiegogo forum that people in the UK are being charged an additional €27 by the Royal mail as the UK is now not in the EU.

    Hi Emil!
    Just received my AAWireless, and will plug in and test tonight. Love the packaging, looks great! However… Since it was shipped from Hong Kong I was forced to pay a rather substantial import fee and duties on this bad boy. I was under the impression that they would be shipped from within the EU? Is it stands now I’m EUR 27,00 poorer :(
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    https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/24534862
    Emil Borconi-Szedressy 2 days ago
    PROJECT OWNER
    Looks like you are in the UK which is outside EU and also there is no way to pre-pay taxes with shipping company any more either....


    This is a crazy. An additional $10 was already taken for delivery and it was meant to ship from the EU. I suspect the units have been shipped by Royal Mail / Dutch post. The Royal Mail rips off people in the UK because they add another £11 in admin fees on top of the 20% VAT even though goods up to £135 should be exempt.
    See https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...s-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

    So not only has VAT been charged coming into the EU from China, it has also been charged coming into the UK ON TOP of the VAT already paid in the EU.

    This is just rubbish. What the guys need to do is either ship it from Hong Kong which can cost £0.20 (there are hundreds of chinese ebay and aliexpress sellers doing this already
    See http://www.vatfraud.org/blog/stop-s...ons-universal-postal-union-upu-terminal-dues/
    The $10 postage already taken should then be refunded.

    The other way round it is send the item from Hong Kong and to mark the item as a gift and providing it is below £39 there is NO VAT to pay and NO Royal mail admin fee. Actually as the original product was $57 - roughly £41.25 This wouldn't be a crime seeing as we have had to wait soo long. This could also mean the $10 delivery could be refunded

    The other way is to ship it via fedex and state the ex-vat cost coming from china and then add 20% vat that the developer should be paying to the UK HMRC.

    Sadly if that doesn't take place, EVERYONE IN THE UK will feel ripped off because of the poor delivery and poor choices made by the developers.

    Cheers
    Disgruntled in the UK

    First of all, your item wasn't shipped yet since in the June batch, so you could have not payed anything for shipping. Secondly, UK is outside the EU, there was a vote about this in 2016, so it doesn't matter if the package comes from EU or from HK or from US, it is treated the same, it's an import. If we import it from HK to EU, we will pay import VAT on the product, then when we send it to UK, we claim back that VAT and we should pay VAT in UK, since there is no more free trading between EU and UK.

    Up till recently there was a nice option, to pay VAT and Import duty up-front, when you ship to the UK, but this has been changed and now they requires business outside UK to register with HMRC and do HMRC feeling even if they are residing outside UK, a lot of red tape. Since crowdfunding is not a sale, we can still ship the units to UK, but not sure if we will be able to after the IndieGoGo campaign.

    We are also a EU registered company so we cannot (and will not take advantage) of any loop-holes in systems to sell at ridiculously / unrealistically cheap prices.

    About the user who paid 27 euros, it turned out that user is living in DK, but provided the address as UK so his package traveled the wrong way, hence the extra duties and surcharges.

    Not aware of other users from UK having to pay anything additional when they received the package.