AC8257 CPU Based unit's problems & questions - Couldn't find any info about it

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howardc64

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I came to the same conclusion regarding the screen driver. I'll reach out to vendor to see if they can help me out, though they haven't been too helpful so far. I may just switch to a different unit.

Thanks!

Maybe this is how you extract parts of firmware. It uses shell scripts, looks like runs on ubuntu linux (I tried on my macos and found missing ubuntu commands)

 

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Did you use google maps as the navi?
Because i am having issues getting i to show in the smaller window.
I keep getting the message "app doesnt support running in second screen", am i missing a option to check/uncheck to get maps to show in either ui17 or ui20?

I never encountered such error. Maybe your google maps is out of date somehow?

UI defaults to google maps for UI17/UI20. I use Sygic since it provides offline navigation (I don't have LTE)

map app is changeable on UI17/UI20 map window. See 2nd link at link below

 
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I never encountered such error. Maybe your google maps is out of date somehow?

UI defaults to google maps for UI17/UI20. I use Sygic since it provides offline navigation (I don't have LTE)

map app is changeable on UI17/UI20 map window. See 2nd link at link below

I checked via store the other day, and it seems fully updated, maybe i just have to use another app.
Thank you very much for the quick response 🙂
 

sky_frog

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Hi all. does anyone have a dump or firmware 1.70-1.73.1 for 6-8gb HU
It should has such dsp interface
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Did you use google maps as the navi?
Because i am having issues getting i to show in the smaller window.
I keep getting the message "app doesnt support running in second screen", am i missing a option to check/uncheck to get maps to show in either ui17 or ui20?
Looks like we have to update the firmware to newest release of 1.73.7 first.


I am currently running the first 1.73.7 version (17 August release) with older release of UI17.
it was working fine. today I have updated to the UI17/UI20, both UI gave me the same error message as yours.
I am guessing these new UI updates have to work with the new 1.73.7 firmware release.

now I am downloading the new 1.73.7 firmware, will let you know if this is the case or not.
 
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I have found out that the new release of UI17/UI20 must running with latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022).
otherwise, you may get error message" the app does not support in second screen".

FYI: it didn't remove any user data when updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022), at least in my case it did not.

if you want to use new release of UI17/UI20, looks like updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022) is a must.
 

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I have found out that the new release of UI17/UI20 must running with latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022).
otherwise, you may get error message" the app does not support in second screen".

Great info! UI17/UI20 posting time stamp is same date or later than latest 1.73.7. Perhaps this was the best indicator of potential dependency. Updated website to share this info


FYI: it didn't remove any user data when updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022), at least in my case it did not.

Interesting. My 13 Oct 22 1.73.7 wiped user data on update which wipes out any downloaded apps, updated apps, and data for all apps.

Wonder what is the difference? In the past, xyauto sometimes update firmware after initial posting with same name. Only way to know is from time stamp. FW is still 13 Oct 22 now so not sure this is the cause.

if you want to use new release of UI17/UI20, looks like updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022) is a must.
 
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Milad Jarjees

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Hello everyone. i have golf sportsvan 2014 with yt5760b my usb and aux at the specialist store no longer works does anyone have the same problem Exactly like in the photo
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I have found out that the new release of UI17/UI20 must running with latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022).
otherwise, you may get error message" the app does not support in second screen".

FYI: it didn't remove any user data when updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022), at least in my case it did not.

if you want to use new release of UI17/UI20, looks like updating to latest 1.73.7 firmware (13 Oct 2022) is a must.
Judging by file path it seems like latest firmware has UI20 (three-split screen) included. Am I right? or UI20 must be applied after upgrading firmware anyway? Or latest firmware has UI20 and upgrade is only needed to get the latest version?
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Other than UI changes is there any other improvement worth upgrading firmware? I'm currently using J1.72 and do not have CAN device connected.

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Milad Jarjees

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ty5760bJudging by file path it seems like latest firmware has UI20 (three-split screen) included. Am I right? or UI20 must be applied after upgrading firmware anyway? Or latest firmware has UI20 and upgrade is only needed to get the latest version?
View attachment 5743307
Other than UI changes is there any other improvement worth upgrading firmware? I'm currently using J1.72 and do not have CAN device connected.

View attachment 5743309

did you install canbus correctly?
This video shows how to install correctly
 

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Judging by file path it seems like latest firmware has UI20 (three-split screen) included. Am I right? or UI20 must be applied after upgrading firmware anyway? Or latest firmware has UI20 and upgrade is only needed to get the latest version?
View attachment 5743307

Despite the file path says three split screen. After install, old xyauto launcher shows up and I didn't search too much how anyway in the new firmware to enable the split screen launcher. Factory setting menu has a UI choice that didn't do anything previously. Perhaps it does something now? Didn't try it.

UI17/UI20 patches on xyauto server have 2 dependencies

1. latest Oct-13 fw to work correctly.esolution dependent mean
2. correct resolution HUs. Wrong resolution will brick with blank screen.


Other than UI changes is there any other improvement worth upgrading firmware? I'm currently using J1.72 and do not have CAN device connected.

Haven't seen any significant improvement in awhile. If you do upgrade, note new firmware likely will wipe user data (Read NOTE 3)


 
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Hello everyone. i have golf sportsvan 2014 with yt5760b my usb and aux at the specialist store no longer works does anyone have the same problem Exactly like in the photoView attachment 5743289

These aftermarket HUs have dedicated connections in the rear for 2 USB ports (look in your HU's menu to see). Unless the wiring hardness adapter routed the old USB to the HU's USB connection, it won't work.

Here is your original HU's connection. Was the C connector plugged into anything to the aftermarket HU?

Volkswagen E-Golf (2014-2016) Discover Pro Head Unit pinout diagram @ pinoutguide.com

On aux port, not sure where that goes in the aftermarket HU. Not too useful feature anymore so I think no one bother connecting it.
 

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These aftermarket HUs have dedicated connections in the rear for 2 USB ports (look in your HU's menu to see). Unless the wiring hardness adapter routed the old USB to the HU's USB connection, it won't work.

Here is your original HU's connection. Was the C connector plugged into anything to the aftermarket HU?

Volkswagen E-Golf (2014-2016) Discover Pro Head Unit pinout diagram @ pinoutguide.com

On aux port, not sure where that goes in the aftermarket HU. Not too useful feature anymore so I think no one bother connecting it.
Thank you for your reply I connected two usb it is working normal but the original one with aux doesn't work it has other connection but i don't know which adapter fits
 

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Thank you for your reply I connected two usb it is working normal but the original one with aux doesn't work it has other connection but i don't know which adapter fits

Most likely not connected thus not working. If you really want them to work, need to splice in the car's USB port to one of the aftermarket HU's USB ports. I don't think HU has a 3rd USB to tap into. As for aux, probably not worth trying to get it working unless really want to for some reason.
 

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Help needed!
Can anybody provide zlink 3.9.27 apk from the 1.73.7 firmware?
I have installed new version of zlink 3.9.43 from xygala.com, now all the music from Carplay are somewhat distorted.

Looks like I need to go back to the original zlink 3.9.27 version.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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Help needed!
Can anybody provide zlink 3.9.27 apk from the 1.73.7 firmware?
I have installed new version of zlink 3.9.43 from xygala.com, now all the music from Carplay are somewhat distorted.

Looks like I need to go back to the original zlink 3.9.27 version.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

You might need to reinstall 1.73.7 to recover matching zlink version. Not sure anyone who knows how to extract apks still hang out on this thread.
 

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You might need to reinstall 1.73.7 to recover matching zlink version. Not sure anyone who knows how to extract apks still hang out on this thread.
I managed to extract all the apks from 1.73.7.
Strangely. I couldn't find zlink.apk.
There is ZlinkActivationCode.apk, which is the only apk related to zlink.

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Update!
Finally found the zlink apk. it was inside the vendor.new.dat.br.
I have uploaded zlink apk here, just in case someone needs it.
I believe this is the zlink ver 3.9.27 comes from the 1.73.7 firmware.
I haven't got chance to test it on my HU (now is midnight here in Australia), will do it tomorrow.
 

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Managed to unbrick my Seicane unit. I had previously used the UI file in the 1280*720 folder and it didn't work. Since I had a 1280*720(mipi), it dawned on me that 720*1280 didn't make sense to be under the "horizontal" folder. So I downloaded UI8 from there and it worked. Sure did waste a lot of time trying to get the vendor to actually send me files. Oh well, it works. lol
 

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    @mantecon1 provided all the details on wrong screen driver (for example, wrong resolution) screen brick recovery. Outlined below

    Installed wrong resolution UI

    xyauto's UI packages are resolution specific. For example, UI17 and UI20 for this HU are different for different resolutions. If wrong one was installed, you will get a blank display screen (although backlight will be on)

    Start the Car

    Some car's accessory mode will shutoff radio after few min. To prevent this problem. Best to start the car while patching/flashing any firmware. This is especially important in longer duration processes like this one.

    Confirm firmware running on HU

    There are 2 ways to confirm HU booted the firmware correctly but has the wrong display driver so screen is blank. Probably best to confirm both ways.

    If HU backlight is on, then firmware booted correctly on HU and just can not display due to wrong display driver. If no backlight on, then firmware didn't boot and will need to recovery another way. Will outline at a later time.

    Insert FAT32 USB stick (without Android folder, maybe just insert a blank one to be sure) into 6 pin USB port. Wait 15-20s and remove. Check if Android folder appear. If so, then HU is running firmware properly and added this folder when it detected the USB stick insertion.

    Make Display Driver Recovery USB

    Put 2 files on FAT32 USB stick

    XYAUTO_UPDATE.bin

    In this xyauto folder. There are other bin files including xyauto_upgrade.bin which has similar name to XYAUTO_UPDATE.bin but in lower case. Don't touch these other bin files


    Display Driver

    There are many HU resolution feature update packages here


    Each gz file package contains the correct display driver. Select a gz file from the correct resolution and put on the USB stick

    Insert USB into HU

    Put USB stick into 6pin USB interface on HU. Need to watch HU screen closely for the next few min for 2 reboots.

    First reboot takes ~1min (or longer?) You will see backlight flash off and on which indicates this reboot event occurred.

    2nd reboot will occur ~2min after first reboot. Then you will see image appear on screen. Quickly remove the USB stick. Display driver is now recovered.

    Try different screen drivers

    If the above Display Driver doesn't work, then you may have the wrong driver on the FAT32 USB, can try others in the display driver directory above. As an example, xyauto has incorrectly named 1280x720 driver as 720x1280 in the past.

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    For most casual users, I think simple configuration is best. Here are probably best solutions

    PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE

    I suggest everyone store their IMEI # and any llicense activation code in safe place. There maybe future situation that can erase these. IIMEI can be retrieved on the HU motherboard even if lost.

    <= 1.73.7 users

    Just stay with 1.73.7. xyauto will surely be pressured by vendors to make new feature appear in 1.73.7 partition structure. Otherwise, vendor will receive heavy product return pressure from recent sales of HU using 1.73.7 partition structure without upgrade path.

    2/23/23 1.73.7 feature set appears to be same as 2/20/23 1.73.8. So you might ask, what is the point of 1.73.8 then? Read on.

    Avoid modified 1.73.8. with 1.73.7 partition structure

    Some people are creating a modified install like this. I think most users may confusingly believe this is 1.73.8 with 1.73.8 partition structure. All future 1.73.8 partition structure upgrades will fail to install.

    1.73.8 HUs

    These must be new HUs that will be purchased now/soon since 1.73.8 just appeared. These users should just use >= 1.73.8

    1.73.8 has a changed partition structure. It appears to run faster and the partition structure may be responsible. My hypothesis is eMMC performance tuning.


    Bricked HU

    Wrong display driver brick should consult post #1372
    Wrong firmware brick probably can use either
    • TWRP to install ota (ota partition structure probably should match wrong firmware partition structure) Consult post #1378 and following 2 posts.
    • format flash, install new firmware, install IMEI (hopefully saved) This is basically HU vendor's HU manufacturing process.
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    Of course all this is only valid until xyauto make more configuration change :) xyauto + aliexpress is like WIndows hw+sw. Massive variations with difficult configuration control.

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    I know the process to format flash, install new firmware and reinstall IMEI (if known). WIll post a general description shortly. But am afraid to try on my HU (wife's car used daily) If anyone in US has bricked HU. PM me and I can try to practice this technique and revive the unit.
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    @mantecon1 taught me these steps so give credit to him :)

    Flash Setup and Use TWRP

    General Overview Diagram



    Hardware Tools

    Read here for Tools and HU USB Port

    YT5760B_AC8259 - Brick Recovery (google.com)

    Download and unpack the TWRP Package

    TWRP are specific to a hardware platform. @mantecon1 found these online for YT5670B


    twrp1.png

    Launch flash_tool and set the scatter file

    Launch flash_tool from above flash tool guide
    Maks sure Download-Agent is chosen per flash tool guide
    For 32bit firmware, set Scatter-loading File to AC8259_Android_scatter. For 64bit firmware, set to AC8259_Android_scatter_64bit

    This will populate the flash tool screen like this. Only recovery and vbmeta should be checked. vbmeta location is different between 32b and 64b firmware.

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    Basically this says ONLY flash these recovery and vbmeta section onto the HU

    Flash with Following Steps
    • Insert USB-A cable into HU's 6-in USB plug. If you get it wrong, don't worry, it will just not work :)
    • Make sure its in Download Only mode. Again, if ever asked to format, quit. Format will erase entire flash memory and cause more challenges.
    • Press Download. This sets the flash_tool ready to download waiting for the HU. HU will need to get into the correct mode to accept flash.
    • Insert USB-A cable into PC
    • Press RST with a tool. This is when all the flash will happen fairly quickly. HU screen will go blank and get into a mode ready for flashing. Then Windows will make USB device mount notification sound. flash_tool then starts flashing recovery and completes with a few seconds.
    Thats it. TWRP is now flashed as the recovery.

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    Unplug USB-A cable from HU
    Insert the USB stick for backup and ota firmware to install into HU
    Press RST
    HU will boot completely to UI

    Trigger TWRP

    • Download an app called Terminal Emulator For Android from Play Store
    • Launch it
    • Wait for command line prompt (Sometime this can take more than 40s right after HU boots up) Can hit return key to check.
    • type reboot recovery, hit return
    • system will now reboot into TWRP recovery
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    TWRP Initial Screen

    I didn't capture the first TWRP launch screen. You just want to check "don't display again" and slide the modify slider. We will need to do more than read only mode.

    TWRP Screen Blanking

    TWRP will automatically turn off the screen after a short time. Need to turn this off (under Settings). If goes blank, need to press RST, boot HU, run Terminal with reboot recovery command to get back to TWRP.

    Video

    Here is a video on TWRP installation on my HU with 64bit firmware. Note it took awhile for terminal emulator to show prompt. This seems to occur everytime. Probably just need to let it sit awhile after firmware boots up.


    TWRP Backup

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    • Choose Backup
    • Slelect all partitions
    • Select storage to USB stick
    • Enable Compression
    • Swipe to Backup
    Wait unitl it finish. ~4GB for base HU Android system + your user data files. Note backup says it doesn't backup pictures and downloads

    Thats it, backup done. Keep USB stick plugged in for ota install

    TWRP ota Install

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    • Choose Install
    • Select Storage to USB Stick
    • Choose ota file
    • Swipe to confirm flash
    • Flashing progress
    • Reboot System
    Thats it. System will now boot to the ota firmware. ota firmware will also erase TWRP recovery and replace it with xyauto recovery. xyauto recovery allows System Info Android Upgrade button to install other patches (UI20, zlink)

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    For reference, here is 4pda's post on this exact same technique. Although they added root

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    我认为不可能,但人们仍在寻找解决方案,包括帖子里的中国qq兴趣小组#1422。不确定他们找到了什么解决方案,我在帖子#1423中问道。

    [URL unfurl = " true "]https://sites . Google . com/view/yt 5760 BAC 8259/HW-fw # h . 35 kwp 5 lkfvq 8[/URL]
    I am the author of the firmware released by the China Forum post you mentioned. First of all, correct you: I am not a QQ interest group. I am an Android Framework developer. The firmware I developed for this second time (YT5760B) can be written from 1.73.7 and any version below via USB flash disk without changing the partition table. This firmware supports English and automatic recognition of the vertical display screen, but I'm sorry that I made it based on the Chinese version, So it doesn't include Google services
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    @mantecon1 taught me these steps so give credit to him :)

    General overview diagram


    Setup Flash Tool

    I've made this simpler. Here are the steps

    Download the tools

    There files are originally from xyauto file server. I removed all Chinese characters which prevent the tool from running correctly on at least my English version of Windows.


    WIndows Computer

    I used Win10. I've read other posts that say Win11 don't work. Flashing recovery is so fast (takes 5-10 sec) It may work if want to try.

    I believe can not use any Windows installed under VM or emulated. USB port is discovered and correct driver launched quickly. Probably no time to do USB forwarding to VM from native OS. If you don't know VMs or what all this means. Just ignore. Use a native Windows installed laptop.

    Install Drivers

    From the downloaded file, run Driverinstall with admin privilege (not sure if necessary). Installation will ask if want to remove USB drivers. Click Okay (Its only removing previously installed Flash Tool drives, doesn't touch any other USB drivers) Let it finish and reboot Windows.

    I had to prompt the installation with return key a couple of times to get it to finish.

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    Unpack flash_tool

    Just unzip the AutoChips_Flash_Tool_Release_20190217 folder until you see flash_tool.exe

    Run the flash_tool

    run flash_tool.exe with admin privilege (again not sure if necessary). It will complain no scatter file. Just okay it and get it launched.

    AutoChips2.png

    Select the Download Agent

    Choose the file MTK_AllInOne_DA.bin in the same folder as flash_tool for Download Agent. Ignore the other fields in this pic. They are for choosing recovery partition described in next post.

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    Thats it. You are ready to flash :)

    WARNING

    Use Download Only. Neverever do format as this will erase entire HU's flash memory including IMEI #s. if the tool prompts you to format, quit and avoid it. Only choose to Format flash if actually necessary such as updating to new firmware partition structure AND familiar with IMEI and app activation code recoveries. More info here

    YT5760B_AC8259 - Brick Recovery (google.com)
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    i did it !!! i did it !!! my radio works!! to much people with this problem and i found the solution trying bored files from xygala, i was bored, i downloaded all the files in that drive 1 by 1.. seems it’s a driver for lg screens, i will edit this to make a tutorial, but i need help to do it, my english is not so good
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    Late Feb release of an xyauto UI is pretty good. Has maps (I use with google maps app with offline maps), radio, HU music player, a fixed app launch icon pane (left vertical) and a user changeable app launch icon pane (lower bottom) all on one screen.

    Generally quite nice. google maps has voice input search, auto dark mode at night while navigating (none navigation mode unfortunately stays in day mode) map will be always north up while driving without navigation route.

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    patch file link Note this seems to be for 1024x600 screen only. Didn't see it in other resolution folders.

    Mode switching is a bit mysterious (I have a steering wheel button programmed to switch modes). In the old default UI, mode switch with switch between currently running apps. Seems to do nothing on this UI while being displayed.

    This launcher provide everything I use so no need to fiddle with the HU much. Just power on the car and drive. The useful features are

    - FM radio (wife listens to this and its her car)

    - Maps always displayed and track your position smoothly (Seen other launchers with map. Position only update every second or so, very jerky display). Google maps fixed to north up unless navigating. Voice input destination via mic icon on google maps search bar. Maps always in bright color mode (quite bright at night but area is not entire screen) Navigation will auto change to dark mode at night.

    - BT works if setup to auto pair. Incoming calls pops up on screen. Can voice command out going calls with iPhone easily. Just say "siri call xxx" with iPhone mic able to hear you. iPhone looks up your contact and dials while connecting to HU's BT for speaker/mic sound.

    - Music player will play all music files in the system/USB stick.

    - Color choices are nice. Colorful but background is dim for night time use. Only issue is google maps none navigation mode display stays bright. Other nav software might handle this better.

    - Google maps generally likes portrait displays like a phone. This horizontal smaller window sometimes hide the next driving intersection change behind the green direction box on top. Not too big of a problem.

    - Left column icons are not changeable. Bottom row is user changeable.
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    I have recorder a video with the YT5760B system upgrade. It takes about 5 minutes to complete. In the attached ZIP file you can find the video.
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    The XYgala.com has released another newer 1.73.7 split screen firmware (release date 28 October).
    And UI20 add-on pack has also been updated, it made adding the app to main screen bit easier.
    The new firmware updated the Zlink to ver 3.9.43, which causes sound/music distortion when using Carpaly.
    At least this problem appeared on my HU.
    if you are having the same problem, you can install zlink ver 3.9.27 from my previous post.
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    Is it wiping user data as 1.73.3?

    Just installed 1.73.6 on 5760B 1024*600, didn't wipe user data.

    Actually, I forgot and left 1.73.3 (don't recall if it was 5/24 or 7/25 version) on the USB stick w/1.73.6 and 1.73.3 got installed which wiped my user data. But then I installed 1.73.6 over this without wiping user data.

    Biggest change I notice is just the 2x boot up pop sound is gone. So maybe xyauto have more orderly sound hardware initialization now :)