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redaiyu01

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Interesting! So you just flash 64b 6GB firmware into 2/4GB system by just using preloader_2/4g?

If this works, I can also try and then try Maui Meta IMEI recovery :)



Unfortunately I am not able to join qq. There is no English menu so I can not verify account and I think US/China social communication is blocking each other haha...

Also you should post in English. I think required by moderators here.
Our Chinese QQ interest group has solved the error problem of online brushing the latest official gongban_YT5760B_5750B-zh_ok-ota-v1.73.8, which is caused by the official change of the size of the 34th-39th partition in the rom.
Solution: Download the two partition files uploaded by my Google network disk and unzip the incoming line brush package. The files are divided into 2-4GB and 6-8GB.
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Our Chinese QQ interest group has solved the error problem of online brushing the latest official gongban_YT5760B_5750B-zh_ok-ota-v1.73.8, which is caused by the official change of the size of the 34th-39th partition in the rom.
Solution: Download the two partition files uploaded by my Google network disk and unzip the incoming line brush package. The files are divided into 2-4GB and 6-8GB.
download link

Thank you for sharing. Can you tell how to use this patch and what it does?

These downloads include metazone.bin and preloader.bin. Do we unzip ota 1.73.8, insert these bins (metazone.bin will rewrite old one), zip and use to upgrade 1.73.7?

How does these 2 bins fix the problem?

ota 1.73.8 zip file contain preloader_1g.bin, preloader_2g.bin, preloader_4g.bin. I believe correct one must be used depending on HU DDR memory size. My guess (just my guess, it maybe wrong) is HU HW designer forgot to include configuration tell DDR memory size for <= 4GB HU. You include preloader_ac8257_demo_1g_32.bin, does this automatically detect 1/2/4GB?

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Does QQ interest group know why 1.73.8 run faster than 1.73.7?

Only change seems to be partition table. userdata partition starting address shifted left by 5 bits in 1.73.8 compared to 1.73.7 (0xe0000000 instead of 0xdc800000) This create larger block address alignment. I wonder if this gain flash memory performance?

Best read speed from flash memory usually require advanced engineering work. There are may layers of software above the NAND flash memory blocks including OS file system (page, block size, write back policy), eMMC (has its own OS to manage NAND flash blocks, wear leveling and any logical features such as multiple partitions, security etc) If xyauto engineer spend time in this area, I'm sure performance boost is possible.

I posted few key chip spec on the mother board 1 year ago. Datasheet for the Foresee eMMC flash is available. You can see it offers multiple paritions, special security partitions etc.

 

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Hi guys, I have an annoying problem with the system. I'm listening to podcasts from the USB trough the music player. When I'm switching between the music player to the Bluetooth player or when I power off the system the podcast reset him self and he start from the beginning. I tried to use with multiple music players with no luck. Please let me know if you have any idea how I can save the spot. I attach to the comment example video, I hope that it will help you to understand the problem.
 

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polarfest

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Folks,

Anybody here with a YT7620B with 360 app that does not have the app listed in the Factory settings > App Settings > Audio Mutex Apps?

So because of this I cannot have music on from zlink (spotify) while driving in reverse with camera on...
Version 1.73.7 is the worst version ever, steering controls are f***ed up and now it will kill audio when put in reverse.

Comments are appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
 

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Hi guys, anyone upgrade to 1.73.8 ota? mine is 1.73.7, Yt5760b 1280x720p 9inch.

I think not possible but people are still searching for solutions including Chinese qq interest group in post #1422. Not sure what solution they found, I asked in post #1423.

 
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Hi guys, I have an annoying problem with the system. I'm listening to podcasts from the USB trough the music player. When I'm switching between the music player to the Bluetooth player or when I power off the system the podcast reset him self and he start from the beginning. I tried to use with multiple music players with no luck. Please let me know if you have any idea how I can save the spot. I attach to the comment example video, I hope that it will help you to understand the problem.

Sounds like localmusic player doesn't have any kind of memory/resume feature of the last track across audio and car power off interruptions. Usually stock apps on these lower end HUs are feature poor.

Might search Android audio players for a solution. googled "android music player remember playback position" and found this

Audio / MP3 player that remembers playback position if I close app or listen to something else and return : androidapps (reddit.com)
 
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I think not possible but people are still searching for solutions including Chinese interest group on qq in post #1422

Thanks, you recommend to me downgrade for older version? Whats is better version for us?
 

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我认为不可能,但人们仍在寻找解决方案,包括帖子里的中国qq兴趣小组#1422。不确定他们找到了什么解决方案,我在帖子#1423中问道。

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I am the author of the firmware released by the China Forum post you mentioned. First of all, correct you: I am not a QQ interest group. I am an Android Framework developer. The firmware I developed for this second time (YT5760B) can be written from 1.73.7 and any version below via USB flash disk without changing the partition table. This firmware supports English and automatic recognition of the vertical display screen, but I'm sorry that I made it based on the Chinese version, So it doesn't include Google services
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I am the author of the firmware released by the China Forum post you mentioned. First of all, correct you: I am not a QQ interest group. I am an Android Framework developer. The firmware I developed for this second time (YT5760B) can be written from 1.73.7 and any version below via USB flash disk without changing the partition table. This firmware supports English and automatic recognition of the vertical display screen, but I'm sorry that I made it based on the Chinese version, So it doesn't include Google services

Thank you for sharing your work. Very interesting. I will name your modified ota 1.73.8 1.73.8cm ota (China Modified 1.73.8 ota) in following questions
  • I understand <= 1.73.7 can ota install 1.73.8cm ota. I guess 1.73.8cm ota use 1.73.7 partition table?
  • If 1.73.8cm ota use 1.73.7 partition table, then 1.73.8cm ota can not install 1.73.8 ota from xyauto. Correct?
  • Do you know any difference (except partition table) between xyauto 1.73.8 and 2/23/23 xyauto 1.73.7 (foreign version)?
On Chinese version firmware, I guess maybe difficult for non Chinese users. Language problem is expected. Common internet services (google etc) probably have differences as you said.

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You add menu to change DSP version. This is helpful since DSP app seems to have problem often :)
 

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谢谢你分享你的作品。很有意思。我会把你修改后的ota命名为1.73.81.73.8厘米ota(中国修改了1.73.8 ota)在以下问题中
  • 我理解< = 1 . 73 . 7 OTA可以装1.73.8cm ota吗?我猜1.73.8cm ota用1.73.7分区表?
  • 如果1.73.8cm ota使用1.73.7分区表,那么1.73.8cm ota无法安装xyauto的1.73.8 ota。正确吗?
  • 你知道xyauto 1.73.8和2/23/23 xyauto 1.73.7(国外版)有什么区别吗(分区表除外)?
在中文版本的固件上,我猜对非中国用户来说可能很难。语言问题在意料之中。常见的互联网服务(谷歌等)大概如你所说有差异。

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您可以添加菜单来更改DSP版本。这是有帮助的,因为DSP应用程序似乎经常有问题:)
Use the partition table of 1.73.7 to update the unsupported USB flash disk to the officially released 1.73.8
The 1.73.8 version has modified the DSP underlying driver, and the audio quality has been partially improved (but I think the 1.68 version is better)
No other bugs have been fixed
 
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Use the partition table of 1.73.7 to update the unsupported USB flash disk to the officially released 1.73.8
The 1.73.8 version has modified the DSP underlying driver, and the audio quality has been partially improved (but I think the 1.68 version is better)
No other bugs have been fixed

Thank you. I understand your explanation.

I also installed 1.73.8 ota using TWRP (of course more difficult process than your modified 1.73.8 ota) Result also use 1.73.7 partition table. I guess result is exactly same as non Chinese 2/23/23 1.73.7 ota? So I suggest to xda members to just use 2/23/23 1.73.7 ota.

Do you know why 1.73.8 with new partition table is faster (everyone (including me) tested by PC flashing firmware say faster) than 1.73.7 partition table? I guess maybe eMMC access improvement by block alignment? (My guess summary in post #1423)
 
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谢谢你。我理解你的解释。

我也用TWRP安装了1.73.8 ota(当然过程比你修改的1.73.8 ota更难)结果也用了1.73.7分区表。我猜结果和非中国2/23/23 1.73.7 ota完全一样?所以我建议xda成员用2/23/23 1.73.7 ota就好。

你知道为什么带新分区表的1.73.8比1.73.7分区表快吗(大家(包括我)用PC flashing固件测试的都说快)?我猜也许eMMC访问通过块对齐改进?(我的猜测总结在帖子里#1423)
This is just an illusion. Xyauto only reduces the length of the logo partition, so the starting position of all the partitions has changed. The speed of writing has nothing to do with it. It is limited by the performance of PC and USB speed
 
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This is just an illusion. Xyauto only reduces the length of the logo partition, so the starting position of all the partitions has changed. The speed of writing has nothing to do with it. It is limited by the performance of PC and USB speed

Okay, thank you :)

Need to compare xyauto 1.73.7 vs 1.73.8 directly to judge speed (I didn't do) Maybe it is illusion :)
 
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xin99

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The change of scatter file means that xyauto tries to create a boundary. It is difficult for most users to cross this line, even if the old partition file could used to install the new firmware through the SD card temporarily. But what about 1.74, 1.75 , 1.8 , 2.0 in the future?

The reason for setting a boundary may be to prevent unofficial modifications. And it is more likely that xyauto is aiming at new and higher performance hardware. It seems that they have made a decision to abandon the old users, from 1.73.8.
 

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For users who have the skill to flash in firmware by computer, and the HU hardware performance is not very poor, my suggestion is that they use new partition files to flash the new 1.73.8 firmware, so as to keep up with the future development of xyauto.
 

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对于有技能通过电脑来flash in固件,而HU硬件性能又不是很差的用户,我的建议是使用新的分区文件来flash新的1.73.8固件,这样才能跟上xyauto未来的发展。
However, Xyauto does not provide online updates, so I have no problem using the old partition. I can re-sign and successfully write to the device for each release version
 
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Another point is to pay more attention to the 64bit (6G, 8G) firmware. In the past, the release of 64bit version lagged behind the 32bit (2G, 4G) in xyauto website. Now, the 64bit version is ahead of the 32bit version. With the improvement of hardware performance, it will become the mainstream.
 

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    Yes I already took a photo of IMEI. I think that's my problem I format using that option and erase some of the important files with in the HU. In manual format there is an option for EMMC (Boot1,Boot2, USER). May I will find some fix for it. or if anyone can extract there files so that I can use to try to write memory back like in this video :


    @2:15 in the video, his thumb is over the 2x DDR memory. Its under the shield in your HU.

    I recently researched a dead eMMC for HiSense Android TV. eMMC is not simple flash chip. It has many features
    • Handles NAND Flash wear leveling
    • Provide multiple partitions (boot/user)
    • Access security to boot
    • Has CPU inside
    Here is eMMC spec by JEDEC (memory standards group. Need to make free account to access)

    eMMC4.5 (jedec.org)

    I'm not certain of the following but after studying HiSense TV Android eMMC, I think the following is boot process for all Android with boot code stored in eMMC
    • main SOC request code from specific eMMC location (boot1?)
    • boot1 code (maybe also boot2? I don't know) start running basic system (not yet HU firmware)
    • basic system has more sophisticated communication capabilities to/from USB/PC to flash remainder of the firmware
    • I think boot1 code can be secured
    When we do format all and flash computer pkg firmware. I think we are not touching boot1 at all. If boot1 is lost, I think typical computer flashing process doesn't work (HU has no basic system to talk to PC). Need to first get the correct boot1 (has to match the HW) using the memory writing solution outlined in the video. So a key question is

    Where did you get the boot1? And does it match your HW?

    Since YT5760B has so many variations. Maybe there is slightly different boot1 for slightly different HW versions. Its probably desirable to get boot1 from matching HW version #s on your board.

    In HiSense TV, writing boot1 required security access and need to contact SOC manufacturer (MSTAR who is also acquired by MTK just like AutoChips). I guess this is not necessary for AutoChips from the youtube video. But it is still necessary to get correct boot1 and the flash location. I don't know any details here.

    I don't have any experience here. Just sharing some basic knowledge of Android boot process.
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    Hello,

    I have bought a Android radio and it had the builtin 360 app. But it is an other app than a friend of my have on his device. It also says that I have to register on wechat but can not figuren it out how to do this.

    Is it possible to flash a different rom for this device?

    I don't think it is really Android 12 but I can not see the system info of Android because this menu is not available.

    Ram 6 gb

    You have different HU firmware than this thread. See Boison B200 under "Other AC8259HUs" tab


    I'm not sure how robust is the B200 forums on firmware upgrades. Its easy to brick these HUs so make sure you read and confirm clear robust B200 upgrade procedure before attempting. This forum's HU (YT5670B) has firmware released on file server by firmware developer. However, many HUs owners post firmware they received from vendor in forums.

    On 360 app on our HU, you buy HU version with this feature, then the vendor preinstall 360 app (roundadas) license. Yous says not activated so maybe you didn't purchase this feature?
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    i did it !!! i did it !!! my radio works!! to much people with this problem and i found the solution trying bored files from xygala, i was bored, i downloaded all the files in that drive 1 by 1.. seems it’s a driver for lg screens, i will edit this to make a tutorial, but i need help to do it, my english is not so good
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    Late Feb release of an xyauto UI is pretty good. Has maps (I use with google maps app with offline maps), radio, HU music player, a fixed app launch icon pane (left vertical) and a user changeable app launch icon pane (lower bottom) all on one screen.

    Generally quite nice. google maps has voice input search, auto dark mode at night while navigating (none navigation mode unfortunately stays in day mode) map will be always north up while driving without navigation route.

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    patch file link Note this seems to be for 1024x600 screen only. Didn't see it in other resolution folders.

    Mode switching is a bit mysterious (I have a steering wheel button programmed to switch modes). In the old default UI, mode switch with switch between currently running apps. Seems to do nothing on this UI while being displayed.

    This launcher provide everything I use so no need to fiddle with the HU much. Just power on the car and drive. The useful features are

    - FM radio (wife listens to this and its her car)

    - Maps always displayed and track your position smoothly (Seen other launchers with map. Position only update every second or so, very jerky display). Google maps fixed to north up unless navigating. Voice input destination via mic icon on google maps search bar. Maps always in bright color mode (quite bright at night but area is not entire screen) Navigation will auto change to dark mode at night.

    - BT works if setup to auto pair. Incoming calls pops up on screen. Can voice command out going calls with iPhone easily. Just say "siri call xxx" with iPhone mic able to hear you. iPhone looks up your contact and dials while connecting to HU's BT for speaker/mic sound.

    - Music player will play all music files in the system/USB stick.

    - Color choices are nice. Colorful but background is dim for night time use. Only issue is google maps none navigation mode display stays bright. Other nav software might handle this better.

    - Google maps generally likes portrait displays like a phone. This horizontal smaller window sometimes hide the next driving intersection change behind the green direction box on top. Not too big of a problem.

    - Left column icons are not changeable. Bottom row is user changeable.
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    I have recorder a video with the YT5760B system upgrade. It takes about 5 minutes to complete. In the attached ZIP file you can find the video.
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    You might need to reinstall 1.73.7 to recover matching zlink version. Not sure anyone who knows how to extract apks still hang out on this thread.
    I managed to extract all the apks from 1.73.7.
    Strangely. I couldn't find zlink.apk.
    There is ZlinkActivationCode.apk, which is the only apk related to zlink.

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    Update!
    Finally found the zlink apk. it was inside the vendor.new.dat.br.
    I have uploaded zlink apk here, just in case someone needs it.
    I believe this is the zlink ver 3.9.27 comes from the 1.73.7 firmware.
    I haven't got chance to test it on my HU (now is midnight here in Australia), will do it tomorrow.
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    Is it wiping user data as 1.73.3?

    Just installed 1.73.6 on 5760B 1024*600, didn't wipe user data.

    Actually, I forgot and left 1.73.3 (don't recall if it was 5/24 or 7/25 version) on the USB stick w/1.73.6 and 1.73.3 got installed which wiped my user data. But then I installed 1.73.6 over this without wiping user data.

    Biggest change I notice is just the 2x boot up pop sound is gone. So maybe xyauto have more orderly sound hardware initialization now :)