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jmpcrx

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hi, i bought one about a week ago now, and i think i have been reasonably lucky as i have no problems with charging, and no touch screen problems (i.e selecting apps doesnt result as a swipe up etc), but i do admit that trying to wake the screen up with a double tap was a pain,,, BUT, there is a solution to this that really works (for me),, simply double tap the bottom left of the screen instead, and it works every time as it should do. (Please let me know if this works for you too..)

The main problem for me is battery life.. moderate use, (20 apps installed) as i would like to use it, results in only about 6 hours of life,, and even less with custom watch on all the time.

by the way, im using it with a htc desire z running @ 1.5ghz on official GB MIUI rom.

also shake to wake works well for me.

if future firmware updates or fiddling with apps doesnt improve battery life, i will probably sell it in a few months and wait for the illusive IM' Watch. (would try the wimm one if it was released over here).

Jam.
 

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The main problem for me is battery life.. moderate use, (20 apps installed) as i would like to use it, results in only about 6 hours of life,, and even less with custom watch on all the time.

Are you using the "On at all times" watch faces from Sony? While using either the Analog or Small Digital face I could not make it through a full day without the watch dying around 6pm.

I have about the same number of apps with constant notifications from every text message, call, missed call, gmail, email, play store notifications, profile change, calendar reminders, etc. With all that I get a solid 3-4 days of battery life (When I get home I take off and turn off the watch) as long as I use the default watch face.
 
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jmpcrx

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Are you using the "On at all times" watch faces from Sony? While using either the Analog or Small Digital face I could not make it through a full day without the watch dying around 6pm.

I have about the same number of apps with constant notifications from every text message, call, missed call, gmail, email, play store notifications, profile change, calendar reminders, etc. With all that I get a solid 3-4 days of battery life (When I get home I take off and turn off the watch) as long as I use the default watch face.

Hi, yes that's right, I'm using the analogue sony watch face (on all the time).. I haven't even tried using the face that switches itself off.. I'll give it a go.. ideally though, id like to be able to shake to wake or double tap and go straight to the custom watch, bypassing the sony face, otherwise id have to double tap twice etc.. anyone think of a way round this? Thanks..
 

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Hi all
Im a recent purchaser of the sony smartwatch and when seting up it auto loaded the latest firmware version. So right out of the box its loaded with bugs.
what else is new from sony right?

anyways it seems that when it comes down to it, that the main problem is the disconnection and reconnection right? if the watch sayes connected then that solves 99% of the smartwatch issues. the bricking of the watch is a seperate issue.

anyways i have 3 thoughts.

1- can xda make the smart watch its own page and forum like the phones? is anyone working on hacking the software on it?

2- if bluetooth connection was the issue, and a lot of times if i walk too far away it dissconnects. Reconnecting is the problem SO, i was thinking about a "bluetooth repeater" or extender in my house. if this is financially possible. i found a few online but for like $300. plus none actually say BT3.0... any thoughts?

3- as a cheap alternative, what about using the cheap computer dongles as a way to "bridge" bluetooth signals ion the house? most people have more than one computer in the house. I was thinking of if i had a dongle on teh computer downstairs, and it bridges to the upstairs dongle, that would make the entire house one giant bluetooth signal no? anyone ever bridged or done somethign like this? wonder if that will work
 

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I like the watch myself and I think the always on feature is OK but I like the original better. my battery last all week with regular use and If I need to see the time double tapping the touch screen to wake it isn't that difficult to do.

The Bluetooth extender I dunno if that is worth the price I mean the Bluetooth disconnects at a reasonable distance and it syncs back up very quickly without doing anything. I guess for me once I get home I just turn the watch off anyways so that would be and unessassary expense.
 

loueber

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just returned mine

i just filled the form for the return through the sony store.
You might want to wait on buying one until they release a new update.

Right now im debating on ordering the I'm watch for $349, or the WIMM for 199.



sony could have had a blockbuster item on their hand with a $149 price, but alas, they couldnt get it right.

for the people with working units and no disconnects.. i cant imagine why yours is fine and the others arent.. maybe different manufacturers for the watch?
 

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Is the Sony Smartwatch waterproof ? Just say if i'm washing my hands after eating and some drops of water splashes on the Smartwatch. Will it affect it ?
 

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Is the Sony Smartwatch waterproof ? Just say if i'm washing my hands after eating and some drops of water splashes on the Smartwatch. Will it affect it ?

It is not waterproof, so you can't submerge it, shower or go swimming with it. It is splash proof though, so you can wash your hands and use it in the rain.
 

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Music player

Hey guyz,

i want to buy the watches,but the most important thing what i'm guessing that it doesnt have stand alone mp3 player right? only controls the phone :O
Please tell me someone if i'm right.

If yes,what is the alternative for this watch with mp3 player (stand alone)

thx !
 

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Hey guyz,

i want to buy the watches,but the most important thing what i'm guessing that it doesnt have stand alone mp3 player right? only controls the phone :O
Please tell me someone if i'm right.

If yes,what is the alternative for this watch with mp3 player (stand alone)

thx !

Well the watch only works with the phone, the watch doesn't without the phone. There is not storage on the watch and neither a headphone jack on the watch, so no the watch cannot work as mp3 player stand alone

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk 2
 

lidoo

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Hi
I buy sony smartwatch
After the experience was really good but when you put the alarm clock does not have any vibration ! Why?
Very useful wake-up :)
 

loueber

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latest results after talking with sony

well, i talked with sony before i shipped my item back.
i decided to try ANOTHER one. currently they are shipping me one.

after a few transfers on the phone, i spoke with a tech that said the whole reason that IM experincing issues is that my htc sensation was not part of their "verified" version that supports the watch.
they insisted that becasue all bluetooth devices are different, that they can only veryfiy working scenarios with the phones they list as compatible.

i posted that same thing in the market for the smartwatch software.

abyways, they were very happy to ship me a replacement and to try again.

i havnt received it yet.

i asked them if they plan on releasing an update that will support more phones, esp mine, she said she had no idea.

but i feel that if they, or someone, could just fix the smartwatch software, then the whole thing would be fine....after all, if they release an update and it fixes it, that would be good no?
cant some of you guys here do that sazme thing?

well, ill post my results when my replacement arrives... crossing my fingers that this one is working.

lastly,
is everyones smart watch box say it was made in china?
 

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the mystery bell....

Hi at all of forum, i'm new here!: D

I have smartwatch and i have a question: in some images of it there is a BELL in the upper left, there is a app for the bell?sounds a alarm?

i too noticed this....it appears when you open the watch menu on your phone and select 'usage tips'...pic attached. anyone have a clue?
 

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lidoo

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Hi
I buy sony smartwatch
After the experience was really good but when you put the alarm clock does not have any vibration ! Why?
Very useful wake-up :)

i too noticed this....it appears when you open the watch menu on your phone and select 'usage tips'...pic attached. anyone have a clue?

This Vibrating for Smartwatch, When you put the alarm clock
But I do not know how to get it
 

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    There seems to be a few threads regarding the new Sony Smartwatch so i thought it might be a good idea to correlate all the info into one handy thread! If you have any tips/tricks/apps or general info you think should be included then post below! If any of the info helps you dont forget the thanks button and rate the thread!!



    Reviews

    XDA Smartwatch Impressions Thread- HERE

    XDA member review by PVTD- Very good review HERE

    Apps

    OFFICIAL APPS:
    • Liveware Manager- Your watch wont work without this!- MARKET LINK
    • Smartwatch- You have to have this for the smartwatch to work!!- MARKET LINK
    • Phonebook Smart Extras- Phonebook manager- MARKET LINK
    • Music Player Smart Extras- Control your music from your watch!- MARKET LINK
    • Weather Widget Smart Extras- Shows you the current weather and forecast for your current or a set location- MARKET LINK
    • Sony Smart Extras for Facebook- Keep up to date with your Facebook friends on the go- MARKET LINK
    • Messaging Smart Extras- View your text messages on your watch- MARKET LINK
    • Call Handling Smart Extras- Mute, answer or reject incoming calls- MARKET LINK
    • Find Phone Smart Extras- Make your phone ring and vibrate so you can find it easier- MARKET LINK
    • Missed Call Smart Extras- Notifies you of missed calls- MARKET LINK
    • Calendar Reminder Smart Extras- Notifies you of upcoming calendar events- MARKET LINK
    • Sony Smart Extras Twitter- Stay up to date with all things Twitter- MARKET LINK
    • Email Smart Extras- Notifies of new emails (only works on SONY phones!)- MARKET LINK
    • Slideshow Smart Extras- View a slideshow of your recent pics- MARKET LINK
    • Gmail Smart Extras- Get notified of new Gmails and view the first few lines of it- MARKET LINK
    UNOFFICIAL APPS:
    • XDA member Beowolf has made some excellent apps, see his thread HERE
    • Custom watch for Smartwatch- A replacement watch app that allows you to keep the screen on (so you can use it like a watch!) Even with dim there is a big battery drain though!- MARKET LINK
    • Notifysmartwatch- An app to send any notifications from any app to your smartwatch. Customise number and length of vibrations.- MARKET LINK Thanks to Mousey for the tip!!
    • Vibrate Alarm- An alpha app by our very own XDA member Pacosal. When set the app will display a notification to say the alarm is set. When the time comes it will vibrate every 8 seconds until you stop it.- POST HERE
    • Watchit!- This app can send notifications from any app installed on your phone to your smartwatch. Easy to set up and tweak, you choose which apps send what!- MARKET LINK
    • Spy for Smartwatch- This app is another from Pacosal. Swipe watch to start audio recording, swipe again to save file to SD. Simple and effective!- MARKET LINK

    Tips
    • Double tap the strap or screen to turn the screen on
    • If you shake it hard enough the screen will turn on
    • There are currently no ways to keep the screen on or alter the timeout (other than 'Custom watch for Smartwatch')
    • You can now choose either an analogue or digital watch that stays on when the smartwatch detects motion (will use battery faster!)
    • To completely reset the watch (for instance if you're having trouble pairing/flashed a new rom etc.) Press and hold the power button for 15 seconds. When you turn it back on it should show the watch and phone with a syncing arrows in between them.
    • Process for a full reset (basically like you just got it out of the box!)
      1- Remove smartwatch app from phone by going to setting->apps->smartwatch->uninstall
      2- Unpair the smartwatch from phone by going to settings->bluetooth->smartwatch->unpair
      3- Reset smartwatch by following the above tip (hold power button for 15 secs)
      To re-pair the devices make sure liveware manager is installed on your phone, re-pair, download smartwatch app when prompted.
    Any tips you have which you think are cool, please post so i can put them here!!​

    Updates / Changelogs
    05/07/2012-
    Smartwatch (watch)- 0.1.A.3.7
    Smartwatch (app)- 1.2.37

    Changelog-
    • Various bug fixes

    04/06/2012- SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL EXPERIENCING RANDOM REBOOTS AFTER THIS UPDATE, UPDATE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
    Smartwatch (watch)- 0.1.A.3.4
    Smartwatch (app)- 1.2.34

    Changelog-
    • Bug fixes (issues still remain for some)

    30/05/2012- SOME PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING RANDOM REBOOTS AFTER THIS UPDATE, UPDATE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
    Smartwatch (watch)- 0.1.A.3.3
    Smartwatch (app)- 1.2.33

    Changelog-
    • New UI for the smartwatch app in liveware manager. Now seperate sections for apps, clocks, sorts apps, sort widgets, usage tips and about.
    • The 'Clocks' section has new clocks!! The standard one as before. a new digital and analogue clock which will stay visible for as long as the watch detects movement.
    • Active notifications. When the gmail, messaging icon etc. notification shows on the screen you can tap on it to go directly to that notification! (instead of having to unlock and go to new events.)
    • Usage tips section shows tips on using the smartwatch using animations.
    • Battery indicator is now always visible when charging!

    Requested apps:
    1-Some sort of watch screen lock so others cant view personal messages when its not on my wrist.
    2- Watch app that starts the audio recording or video recording on my phone through the watch interface.- SEE SPY FOR SMARTWATCH ABOVE

    Ill update this thread when i can and will hopefully add new apps as they become available on the market. If you think there's something missing from this thread then please let me know!! :)
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    Open SmartWatch Project

    Open SmartWatch Project h ttp://developer.sonymobile.com/services/open-smartwatch-project/

    Copy to Sony's web

    "We are now taking the next step to open up SmartWatch. Previously, you’ve been able to create apps for SmartWatch with the Sony Add-on SDK, but now we hope to see even more innovation as we’re making it possible for advanced developers to create and flash alternative firmware, by sharing technical details and instructions.

    However, before you create and flash alternative firmware to SmartWatch, it’s crucial that you read through the important information below.

    Limitations
    Please note that by flashing alternative firmware to SmartWatch it will no longer work as intended. You will no longer be able to use SmartConnect or any compatible SmartWatch app available on Google Play™.

    Important information – read this before flashing alternative firmware
    Please note that you may void the warranty of your device and/or any warranty from your operator if you flash alternative firmware to SmartWatch. See your device’s warranty statement for details. Additionally, due to the modified device software, Sony’s repair network will likely have to replace key components before it can properly test, repair and verify your device using our repair tools and software. Consequently, if Sony performs a warranty repair, Sony will likely charge you a significant service fee for the additional costs caused by your modification of the software.

    Sony can no longer guarantee the full functionality of your device, and will not be responsible for any alternative firmware being put on the device. Certain functions on your device might cease to work, and performance might not be ideal. You might also damage your device permanently. In the worst case, flashing alternative firmware may cause physical injuries or material damage, for example, due to the device overheating.

    With all of the above in mind, you should only flash alternative firmware to SmartWatch if you are an advanced developer with good knowledge of the technology and risks involved. We recommend standard users not to flash alternative firmware, as it is not needed. We are proud to deliver great software experiences through our rigorously tested and official software releases.

    If you are fully aware of the risks involved, and if you are an experienced developer, you can continue to the flash alternative firmware to SmartWatch by following the instructions on the pages below."

    I can't wait to see the first rom to Sony smartwatch
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    ok here's detailed answers for you:
    • to make the smart watch vibrate when it disconnects from your phone: it already does it automatically
    • to make your phone ring: simply use Find Phone app, that's what it's built for
    • to use Tasker as alarm & lock trigger: keep reading below:
    Requirements:
    - a mobile phone
    - a Smart Watch (duh)
    - Tasker installed on your phone
    - Smart Connect app on your phone (it's required from the smart watch to manage the connection)

    Short explanation:
    Smart Connect has the built-in events to do 'something' on an event triggering, such as bluetooth connection, mobile on charge, headphone connection, and so on.
    We'll use the bluetooth connection event to make Tasker lock/unlock the phone, and saying something out loud with the Google text-to-speech engine.

    1. First off, open Tasker, go to Tasks and click on the '+' button to add one
    2. give it a name ( I used "lock") and continue
    3. on the Task Edit menu, press the '+' symbol to add the task, then click on 'Display' and then on 'Keyguard'
    4. set 'Set' on and go back to Task Edit [this enables the system lock, in case you keep it disable (as it happens for me)]
    5. now add Display -> System lock, without changing anything, and go back to Tasks menu [this switches the screen off]
    6. add a new task, name it ('unlock' would be nice), add Display -> Keyguard, and set it to 'off' [if you want the lock screen to be disabled, otherwise just skip this step]
    7. enough with Tasker, now open Smart Connect app, and click on the '+' button
    8. select 'Add device' and pick your smart watch (previously paired with your smartphone) and then click on the forward arrow
    9. now click on Start Action to select Start Shortcut and then Task Shortcut
    10. here you will pick the task Unlock (whatever you named it) to assign it to the Connection event
    11. do the same for the End Action, selecting the Lock task this time, then go forward to give this event a name, and Voilà!

    Should you want to add a sound alarm you can either use Misc -> Say task in tasker, after point 3., or use Media -> Play Ringtone task.

    if you want to try it, then on your smart watch go to settings and deactivate bluetooth to see what happens.

    I hope it will be somehow helpful :)
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    Hey,

    Just to update I used the new call handling PRI app and it works perfectly. Emailed the DEV too about compatibility and he responded almost immediately, great app, great DEV, recommended 5*.

    P.S is anyone else just astonished with the worlds final wakeup to wearable technology? I see topics on forums speculating about apple watches and the galaxy watch etc and even before the pebble came out and I just find myself thinking my smart watch cost less than £70 and it does all of that and more. Most underated piece of technology in recent years me thinks.

    Johnny

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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    May I ask owners how they make use of the watch and how it is more convenient than using ones mobile direct? I want one but so far not even I can justify the watch as being of any practical use. I hope I am wrong,. Another major concern is understand the watch isn't even water resistant so taking it in the rain is out of the question? Needing to charge the phone every 1-3 days is also very odd for a watch don't you think? It appears very impractical?

    I wanted to reply before reading other responses & getting biased by them.

    My main reason for getting this watch: Not missing calls/texts/etc. I keep my phone in my pocket, but tried in a hip pouch for a while. Sadly, it only took a little outside noise to make it close to impossible to hear my phone, and even in my pocket I can't feel the vibration.

    I work as an IT guy and I'm on call 24/7, so missing calls can be reaaal bad for me.

    So I have my watch set up to vibrate on Phone, SMS, email. Now I don't miss calls in a loud environment (and with 3 little kids, that's a lot of places).

    As an added bonus, I like flashing the latest roms, which can reboot - or flat out hang without knowing. I get the bonus here because the watch vibrates on loss of connection letting me know my phone is rebooting or locked up.

    Any other watch features - including just telling time on it! - is just an extra bonus. I like the quick pick up on calls, and the quick email reply - but they are corner cases for me.

    On charging - I'm used to charging my phone every night, so it was a quick & easy step to charge the watch nightly as well. I've missed a couple days, and it's nice to know I can miss a day or possibly two with no problems.

    The cable stinks, btw - but a rubber band fixed the problem. Tacky, but it works.
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