Question Adaptive Battery or not?

[blackhawk]

I have generally found adaptive Battery only throttles performance but doesn't really offer a significant benefit in battery life. My experience with it has generally been tied to Samsung devices though so I was curious if there was any difference on Pixel devices.

I am of the opinion that if you let a chip work as fast as possible it completes tasks faster than throttled and that actually helps with battery life. Basically throttling may give you a slight battery advantage but the difference is generally insignificant but the hit to performance is generally real. So you get almost the same battery performance but better overall performance without any adaptive Battery features enabled.

It will be interesting to see the results of your test to see if my experience is true or if Google has implemented a version of adaptive Battery that actually works and gets better over time.

On Samsung's N10+ Android 9 and 10 it doesn't throttle anything but will shutdown background apps* you're using. Most will shutdown themselves if not in active use. I tried many different settings configurations. WYSIWYG.
It's not a Samsung service although it's accessed through Device Care.

*some say this behavior can be adjusted but I never tried to reason with it. Best SOT and deep sleep state are my guilds to optimizing... everything else is in the way.

 

[EtherealRemnant]

Lol, every dumb bunny thinks they win with Google...

I'd MUCH rather have a phone by Google than a Samsung and the default settings weren't drastically different in battery either. I'm expecting there will be some moderate benefit found in the next week of testing. I was in fairly ideal conditions last night. I'll be going to my partner's house tonight and that basement is a signal death trap so if I'm going to notice a large increase, it's going to be there.

I have generally found adaptive Battery only throttles performance but doesn't really offer a significant benefit in battery life.

I have not noticed any performance throttling on the Pixel which was one of the huge complaints I had about my previous phone, the OnePlus 9, as they throttled everything across the board and it was extremely noticeable. There were times when my OnePlus 9 felt much slower than my Pixel 7 Pro does despite my Pixel 7 Pro having a slightly inferior SoC on paper.

 

[robbbzilla]

I'd MUCH rather have a phone by Google than a Samsung and the default settings weren't drastically different in battery either. I'm expecting there will be some moderate benefit found in the next week of testing. I was in fairly ideal conditions last night. I'll be going to my partner's house tonight and that basement is a signal death trap so if I'm going to notice a large increase, it's going to be there.


I have not noticed any performance throttling on the Pixel which was one of the huge complaints I had about my previous phone, the OnePlus 9, as they throttled everything across the board and it was extremely noticeable. There were times when my OnePlus 9 felt much slower than my Pixel 7 Pro does despite my Pixel 7 Pro having a slightly inferior SoC on paper.

On paper the Tensor G2 is no speed demon by far but as your experience with the OnePlus 9 illustrates software optimization is as important if not more so than the SOC as most modern high end SOC are more than enough.

Google has used on paper inferior SOC on several of their phones over the years yet the phones always feel fast and fluid.

Samsung is a good example of the fastest SOC in USA generally and decent software optimization but a ton of extra bloat which hampers even the best SOC over time.

I will always prefer stock Android to a ton of customization layers and apps I can't disable or uninstall. I like Samsung and I have several of their devices but I wish they would offer the user a choice of what default apps they want to use and the ability to get rid of anything else.

 

[blackhawk]

I'd MUCH rather have a phone by Google than a Samsung and the default settings weren't drastically different in battery either. I'm expecting there will be some moderate benefit found in the next week of testing. I was in fairly ideal conditions last night. I'll be going to my partner's house tonight and that basement is a signal death trap so if I'm going to notice a large increase, it's going to be there.

Yeah I know, the new Samsung's suck as does Android 11 and higher. The older N10+'s running on Android 9 or 10 however rock. Long lived, solid work horses boosting dual drive with up to a 1.5tb capacity. A new 4300 mAh battery will yield 13 hours of SOT. Even with a degraded battery nearing replacement I still get 9-10 hours SOT. Most of the new 5000 mAh battery phones can't touch that. Worse the N10+ is almost as fast, sometimes even faster in day to day usage.
It boots up fast...
Google's vision of the future is a bottomless sinkhole of less and less user options the deeper you go. Google's done gone MS bad.

 

[EtherealRemnant]

I am definitely going to leave it off.



That's since last Wednesday.



This was today.

I was much more heavily using my phone testing some things on mobile data which I would have expected to really increase my battery usage a lot but I'm actually pretty happy with it.

The average standby time was what I was concerned about but that only increased from 1.4-1.6%/hr.

 

[HipKat]

They call it Gookill for good reasons.

I've literally never seen anyone ever call it that before - and I've been around awhile

 

[blackhawk]

I've literally never seen anyone ever call it that before - and I've been around awhile

Been calling them that for years, a blackhawk original Pretty much describes what they do.

They've completely screwed up their search engine... it was better over a decade ago. What a mess.
More of a shopping engine now... even there their algorithms screw that up. Pay to play and "if you think like us" determines what's shown.
Tainted to the core.

 

[cihu12]

This actually seems quite good without adaptive so I'm just going to leave it off. In fact I was doing some 5G speed testing using Network Signal Guru on this charge and I would have expected something more like 10-11% screen on drain as a result. It was hovering around 6% before that testing.

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This was my average when I took a screenshot before turning off adaptive battery yesterday.

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Can i know what app were you using?

 

[EtherealRemnant]

Can i know what app were you using?

Battery Guru.