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cmaya228

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Has anybody else experienced or is experiencing rather poor ram management on their S6e?

I'm finding app refreshes really quite abundant. Yes they refresh quickly in most cases but they are refreshes nether the less.

Worst are apps that dump you out of what you are doing like Tapatalk.

System manager tells me I gave 400mb free and yet app refreshes are a common occurrence.

My nexus 6 rarely has to auto refresh - indeed conversely I can open Tapatalk on that and have to manually refresh to get content. But at least I never get dumped out of a thread and taken back to menu.

The Galaxy S5 was poor enough with memory management, I hoped the 3gb in the S6e would put an end to forced reloads & refreshes but nope.

I have a sim free factory unlocked model, no carrier bloat and have factory restored and still same issue persists.

Its as if Touchwiz despite certain improvements is as memory hungry and uncouth as it ever was.

here is the solution i just make a post about it with all the info i receive from here, here's the link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/galaxy-s6-edge-ram-problem-solution-t3136243
 

Kailoren

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I updated my s6e this morning to 5.1.1 and still getting RAM running at around 2.2gb constantly. Even using CCleaner to free up RAM by force closing background processes. Any solution yet to unrooted phones or are we stuck waiting for Samsung to hotfix it?
 

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I updated my s6e this morning to 5.1.1 and still getting RAM running at around 2.2gb constantly. Even using CCleaner to free up RAM by force closing background processes. Any solution yet to unrooted phones or are we stuck waiting for Samsung to hotfix it?

2.2GB used? And where is the problem? RAM is there to be used and this is not a problem, it's normal. Every heavy UI uses resources, thats why the phone has 3GB of it. No shame in using it. You can be concerned when it reaches 0% free and everything stops working. And that is absurdly unlikely to happen
 

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2.2GB used? And where is the problem? RAM is there to be used and this is not a problem, it's normal. Every heavy UI uses resources, thats why the phone has 3GB of it. No shame in using it. You can be concerned when it reaches 0% free and everything stops working. And that is absurdly unlikely to happen

Im getting app crashes even when i have only two or three background processes running which is very unusual. My Samsung Galaxy Tab S also has around 3GB of RAM and that usually runs at about 1.6GB. Just seems to be unusually high for the s6e
 

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2.2GB used? And where is the problem? RAM is there to be used and this is not a problem, it's normal. Every heavy UI uses resources, thats why the phone has 3GB of it. No shame in using it. You can be concerned when it reaches 0% free and everything stops working. And that is absurdly unlikely to happen
People like to regurgitate this saying because they've seen it posted elsewhere, but the fact is the phone shouldn't be using that much ram unless a crap-load of apps are open. And on the GS6, it reloads every 3rd app you multitask back to, so there's literally no excuse for this phone to ever be using that much ram.

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People like to regurgitate this saying because they've seen it posted elsewhere, but the fact is the phone shouldn't be using that much ram unless a crap-load of apps are open. And on the GS6, it reloads every 3rd app you multitask back to, so there's literally no excuse for this phone to ever be using that much ram.

Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

Not exactly, you make a connection where there not really is one. Loads of RAM being used may not look nice, but it is perfectly allright, unless you actually completely run out of it. Now the aggresive memory killer is most likely Samsungs way of making sure that that doesn't happen, since the S6 is intended to be their perfect phone. And they overshot the target, I give you that. But there is no direct connection between used RAM and aggresive multitasking, the latter is just arbitrarily set up this way and is not a result of the first condition
 

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Not exactly, you make a connection where there not really is one. Loads of RAM being used may not look nice, but it is perfectly allright, unless you actually completely run out of it. Now the aggresive memory killer is most likely Samsungs way of making sure that that doesn't happen, since the S6 is intended to be their perfect phone. And they overshot the target, I give you that. But there is no direct connection between used RAM and aggresive multitasking, the latter is just arbitrarily set up this way and is not a result of the first condition


I didn't say they were connected. My point is: if the GS6 is so aggressively killing the apps off (and it is), what in the world is using the RAM? The camera quick launch feature uses some, as does Touchwiz, but I see no reason why the GS6 should be using more than my Note 4 (with all of its S-Pen features taking RAM).
 

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I just get my first Samsung S6 Edge device and its annoying slow lagy it has 3 gb of ram and still only we have 300 mb for the rest of the apps.
I still have my M7 and I have 1.1 gb free all the time even with all the apps keep running at the back.
Samsung sucks it was a bad decision to go for samsung.
 

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I just get my first Samsung S6 Edge device and its annoying slow lagy it has 3 gb of ram and still only we have 300 mb for the rest of the apps.
I still have my M7 and I have 1.1 gb free all the time even with all the apps keep running at the back.
Samsung sucks it was a bad decision to go for samsung.

Read my post above, loads of used RAM are no problem. You don't run out of it? You're fine. Doesn't matter if 1.1GB js free or 300mb
 

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Read my post above, loads of used RAM are no problem. You don't run out of it? You're fine. Doesn't matter if 1.1GB js free or 300mb

So if you are saying its not an issue then why the device lagg it stuck while operation animations all get slow the screen don't response. Because the device try to free the ram as its not available to handle other apps.

I just have the phone for 2 days and as soon as i put my gmail account it download all the apps I have on htc m7 and this phone is even more slow then my old one.

So i am think to root it if its going to fix the issue as i get 5.1.1 out of the box
 

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So if you are saying its not an issue then why the device lagg it stuck while operation animations all get slow the screen don't response. Because the device try to free the ram as its not available to handle other apps.

I just have the phone for 2 days and as soon as i put my gmail account it download all the apps I have on htc m7 and this phone is even more slow then my old one.

So i am think to root it if its going to fix the issue as i get 5.1.1 out of the box

Yeah it would do that, if the RAM was full. In your photos, the RAM is however far from being full, so it can't be the reason for the lag. Maybe your phone is bloated, I have no idea. But the RAM usage is perfectly allright
 
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With Android, unused RAM is wasted RAM. The OS is designed to use it and stock Android is very, very good at managing it. Perhaps Samsung messed up Androids garbage collection on their ROM's causing them to kill closed / minimized apps prematurely - Samsung ROM's tend to be bloated so if the system is programmed to favour stock apps (installed to /system/app & /system/priv-app) over downloaded ones then that could explain a few things?.

Also IIRC the recent apps list in Lollipop (5.x) displays all opened apps, not just the ones still in memory (which is why rebooting the device doesn't clear the list). So if the app has been killed it will still show-up but will need reloading rather than just bringing back to focus. Its now more of an overview of all the apps you have ever opened, which kinda loses the point really :confused:

Edit: I haven't actually experienced this problem, but the first thing I did with my S6E was quite thoroughly debloat it.
 
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    I believe it's due to the memory leak on 5.0.1 wait till we get 5.1 to see if they fix this issue
    No memory leak is only on nexus devices and related to its particular bootloader - something Samsung device doesn't have. It won't improve if it's not good now.
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    I have this issue too.. Anoys the heck out of me;.. I can pause pandora, and then open another app, and pandora lost its place!

    happens a lot more then it should.
    Yep. How come all the so called in depth reviews never mentioned this issue. To me aggressive memory killing and excessive ram usage is far more detrimental to user experience than the odd bit of lag, yet the only thing we kept getting told is how lag free this device would be and how super fast the ram is.... And yet it can barely keep 4 apps in memory for 5 minutes. Its really frustrating.
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    Has anybody else experienced or is experiencing rather poor ram management on their S6e?

    I'm finding app refreshes really quite abundant. Yes they refresh quickly in most cases but they are refreshes nether the less.

    Worst are apps that dump you out of what you are doing like Tapatalk.

    System manager tells me I gave 400mb free and yet app refreshes are a common occurrence.

    My nexus 6 rarely has to auto refresh - indeed conversely I can open Tapatalk on that and have to manually refresh to get content. But at least I never get dumped out of a thread and taken back to menu.

    The Galaxy S5 was poor enough with memory management, I hoped the 3gb in the S6e would put an end to forced reloads & refreshes but nope.

    I have a sim free factory unlocked model, no carrier bloat and have factory restored and still same issue persists.

    Its as if Touchwiz despite certain improvements is as memory hungry and uncouth as it ever was.
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    So if you are saying its not an issue then why the device lagg it stuck while operation animations all get slow the screen don't response. Because the device try to free the ram as its not available to handle other apps.

    I just have the phone for 2 days and as soon as i put my gmail account it download all the apps I have on htc m7 and this phone is even more slow then my old one.

    So i am think to root it if its going to fix the issue as i get 5.1.1 out of the box

    Yeah it would do that, if the RAM was full. In your photos, the RAM is however far from being full, so it can't be the reason for the lag. Maybe your phone is bloated, I have no idea. But the RAM usage is perfectly allright