[AINUR AUDIO] SAURON MK III [paused] | NARSIL MK I [upd 09.09.2021]

[Techguy777]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6wDLZpPr4y_k9LTqx4BydFWnDEcCLU2/view?usp=sharing

These are for the Sennheiser IE60s and Fiio FH5s and Ill say it again I dont understand what the person is going for because they just drop the sound off so much you can barely hear it. It doesnt make any sense to me. Anyone can lower distortion by cutting volume down thats easy just turn it down. But it also messes up the sound to me. I don't get it. No one would say viper 4 android sucks so we all dont have that different of sound signatures. When they say this pair of headphones sounds bright or warm those descriptions are sales pitches because it makes it sound good even if by bright you mean there stretchy and high pitched to much treble and warm might mean to much bass they override the vocals. The whole audiophile thing has really screwed peoples thinking. Most people think loud clear music with good bass is great. Im one of those.

 

[autofreak47]

My experience: On Nougat ROMs Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos (Lenovo version) is really cool, for Oreo Viper4Android in combination with Sauron gives me the best sound. But especially in cases of audio the preferences are very different so try what's the best combination for you.
Dolby has a bigger impact to the sound than Sauron but not everyone likes that.

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Thank you sir for your response. Also do you know how to disable/uninstall Audiosphere drivers pre-installed , since I want to try shoebox effect? (btw I'm running on crDroid Pie)

 

[Wolfcity]

Thank you sir for your response. Also do you know how to disable/uninstall Audiosphere drivers pre-installed , since I want to try shoebox effect? (btw I'm running on crDroid Pie)

I never did that but I would think it should be enough to set SHB to "true" in sauron_useroptions, Audiosphere should be disabled then. But I'm not sure, maybe one of the devs like @Zackptg5 or @UltraM8 should answer this.

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[autofreak47]

I never did that but I would think it should be enough to set SHB to "true" in sauron_useroptions, Audiosphere should be disabled then. But I'm not sure, maybe one of the devs like @Zackptg5 or @UltraM8 should answer this.

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Will try to set true for SHB and see if Audiosphere will be disabled, Thank you again for the response sir. Any further help regarding this would be helpful @Zackptg5 @UltraM8.

 

[Techguy777]

I am opening irs files with audacity. Because irs file is just audio file. WAV or something.
IRS file which can be use to spatialize sound must simulate reverb, delay and/or crossfeed.
Because when you are hear something in your right, both ears are hearing that sound but your right ear hear it louder and sound arrive to that ear a little faster. Our brain is doing rest of the work in order to localize where that sound were.
That's why full stereo IRS must contain 4 channels.
This is example of 4-channel IRS created by Joe0Bloggs.
In zip folder you have this IRS in 44.1kHz and 48kHz version.

There's one more type of IRS used by HeSuVi (only used in windows) to emulate full surround sound. These files contains 14 channels.

Well I dont have graphs I just go by my ears and what I like and dont like. If an IRS file sounds good with headphones thats what im going to say. I just tried the Joe0Bloggs 3d headphones surround upmix and the Joe0bloggs spatializer efo-f2. I tried both the 44k and the 48ks all 4 irs files. I find theres a wide sound like a hall effect that sounds unnatural. The surround 7.1 I recommend fills headphones better and it sounds a little loud but its more natural sounding while still feeling surround. Guys music isnt about graphs and frequency music is simple do you like the sound or not. I stand by my favorite is still clearbass rev 2. Have you tried it what do you think?

I get it the big guys like the frequency responses but at the end of the day if you have better speakers or drivers in your headphones guess which ones sound better? I like my Fiio Fh5s but im sure the shure 846 are cleaner and better you dont need a vdc file or irs at least you shouldnt that would be stupid to think someone is going to make a 1000 headphones sound better with a file.

I have 3 pairs of sennheiser that have vdc files built in viper4android. They do not improve sound in my ears. They sound flat and weak and its not like im just hating I would love to be like damn these things are sick sounds amazing. I know why they say if you dont like it something is wrong with your ear shape because most people will not like it and they know that.

 

[Techguy777]

I live in America and in America we got a special type of audiophile. They have 1200 watt subs in there 500 dollar cars. You can hear them coming down the street or feel them if your outside. They get out of there vehicle and the doors open theres no music or lyrics its just bass I kid you not these guys are all over my town in the country they think there keeping it gangster. They honestly think that sounds good. You can have that I want a nice clear system like bose or something. I dont understand it. LMAO

 

[ShadoV90]

I think there's two kind of people. First type looks for their ideal flat frequency response and do anything they can do to flatten it (often spend massive amount of money). Second type which i am, buy headphones based by their coloration preferences. For me, coloration of headphones is some kind of "soul" of them
I don't understand why people buy for example V-shaped frequency headphones and try to flatten their response. Ofc there can be financial reason for that, but not always it is.

I am kind of V-shape guy. I like 20-150 hz bass and treble clarity. My ears are very sensitive to sibilances, so this is why i like more spacious sound, and that's why i use Joe0Bloggs spatializer.
I sent frequency response headphones which i love to hear

Most 3d or surround virtualizers boosts trebles and bass and/or leave middles behind and this plus reverb creates hall effect. I heard that 7.1 irs which you sent Mr Techguy777, and after adjust gain i found that it sounds pretty much the same way as my phone always sounds to me. That's why i checked how it looks. Maybe that's because i use this filter as default in my LG G7. (See attachment and compare to my earlier screenshot).

Please don't think that i'm guy who trusts only graphs etc. I trust my ears and graphs almost equally. But i am listening music through ears, not eyes, so you know...
But many times something sounds better to me and after compare to graphs and other "technical explanations" i found that i was trapped by placebo effect.

 

[gehess]

I live in America and in America we got a special type of audiophile. They have 1200 watt subs in there 500 dollar cars. You can hear them coming down the street or feel them if your outside. They get out of there vehicle and the doors open theres no music or lyrics its just bass I kid you not these guys are all over my town in the country they think there keeping it gangster. They honestly think that sounds good. You can have that I want a nice clear system like bose or something. I dont understand it. LMAO

Oh, this isn't just an American phenomenon. Australia has it too (sometimes I think the music is loud to be heard over the sound of the V8).

Maybe it's a white people thing. :laugh:

 

[nick_22]

I mirrored Narsil, at least for the moment. That's the latest zip.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261691953

does it work on Android 10? i have a Oneplus 7T

 

[pgravili]

does it work on Android 10? i have a Oneplus 7T

Yes

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[Điệp Khối]

Got bootloop on my Vince running android 10 (havoc 3.1) after flashed magisk module via TWRP (I have to flash via TWRP because when I flash via Magisk it said: "cannot mount /dsp")
Please help!!!

 

[geiszla]

Got bootloop on my Vince running android 10 (havoc 3.1) after flashed magisk module via TWRP (I have to flash via TWRP because when I flash via Magisk it said: "cannot mount /dsp")
Please help!!!

I have the same problem. It would be good to know how to solve it. I had the same with Viper4Android, there I just needed to rename post-fs-data.sh, but that solution doesn't seem to work here.

 

[Wolfcity]

I have the same problem. It would be good to know how to solve it. I had the same with Viper4Android, there I just needed to rename post-fs-data.sh, but that solution doesn't seem to work here.

I don't own an android 10 device but I know that/system can't be mounted anymore on 10. Maybe that's the case for/dsp (stands most likely for digital signal processing) too or it's a subfolder of / system so if magisk can't mount it TWRP won't do it neither.
Which version of magisk are you on?


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[geiszla]

I don't own an android 10 device but I know that/system can't be mounted anymore on 10. Maybe that's the case for/dsp (stands most likely for digital signal processing) too or it's a subfolder of / system so if magisk can't mount it TWRP won't do it neither.
Which version of magisk are you on?


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/dsp mounting in TWRP works, it says it's installed correctly, but the ROM doesn't boot.
I need to remove the module with the mm script to boot into android. Also before, when I was on Pie, I had the same with Magisk not being able to mount it, but could install with TWRP and use it. I'm using the latest Magisk (20.3).

 

[bick]

I live in America and in America we got a special type of audiophile. They have 1200 watt subs in there 500 dollar cars. You can hear them coming down the street or feel them if your outside. They get out of there vehicle and the doors open theres no music or lyrics its just bass I kid you not these guys are all over my town in the country they think there keeping it gangster. They honestly think that sounds good. You can have that I want a nice clear system like bose or something. I dont understand it. LMAO

Those 'audiophiles' are here too in the UK. There's a 'Moron' button on their dashboards.....
Sorry, off-topic......
BTW, loving this 'true' audiophile thread.

 

[knpk13]

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[moscic]

Got bootloop on my Vince running android 10 (havoc 3.1) after flashed magisk module via TWRP (I have to flash via TWRP because when I flash via Magisk it said: "cannot mount /dsp")
Please help!!!

Try to remove service.sh file. It helps in DTS_HPX module for me.

 

[geiszla]

Got bootloop on my Vince running android 10 (havoc 3.1) after flashed magisk module via TWRP (I have to flash via TWRP because when I flash via Magisk it said: "cannot mount /dsp")
Please help!!!

I finally found the source of this problem. It has to do something with Magisk not being able to set the SELinux rules (I have a ROM with SELinux permissive, so that may cause it to fail?). Nevertheless, if you have SELinux on permissive, you can simply remove the corresponding lines in the setup scripts of the module.

1. Download the mm script for Magisk module management from recovery (This is to temporarily disable the module and boot into Android to edit the file. You can also edit the file using adb from recovery using another device (e.g. computer) if that's your thing.)
2. Install Ainur Sauron (or any other module, which requires some rules set for SELinux)
3. If it can't install in Magisk, because it can't mount /dsp, download the TWRP zip from the XDA thread and flash it from recovery.
4. Boot into recovery and flash the mm script zip.
5. DON'T reboot yet. Go to Advanced -> Terminal and enter "sh sdcard/mm"
6. Select "d", then type part of module name (e.g. "sauron"), then press enter. It should only show ainur_sauron as disabled.
7. Reboot to System, choose your preferred file explorer with root capabilities and go to "/data/adb/modules/ainur_sauron".
8. Open "service.sh" with a text editor and place a "#" before the line that starts with "magiskpolicy" to comment it out. (If you have problem with another module, look around in the module scripts for this line and comment it out everywhere)
9. Reboot to recovery, go to Terminal, start mm script and do the same as before to enable the module.
10. Reboot to System, and it should work.

Note that you need to do this every time you update or reinstall the module. I hope this helps.

 

[iceman0826]

I wonder if this is compatible with iBasso DX160 using Lurker FW as it allows one to use Magisk on this unit. Been searching for an Android DAP that has a superior dac unlike from the Smartphones.

For those who has it, is Sauron or Narsil works on this unit? Thanks in advance for those who can share their wisdom.

 

[surya790]

Before using narsil Poweramp was limited to 24 bit 192khz. Now it's showing 24 bit 384khz.