ALL Note 7 will be bricked by early 2017. Some earlier.

[drunkenbloke]

Do I look like an iPhone guy?! Please just stop. You obviously understood my question in its form, now you want to be an idiot about it?! Good job! :highfive:

Yep I understood your question you asked about them exploding which as far as I am aware none have done yet.

 

[force70]

Wait, so what will you guys do if your phone does explode?

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Well that's when its time to return it I suppose

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

 

[Chippy_boy]

Do I look like an iPhone guy?! Please just stop. You obviously understood my question in its form, now you want to be an idiot about it?! Good job! :highfive:

How ironic.

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Yep I understood your question you asked about them exploding which as far as I am aware none have done yet.

Correct.

 

[ProtoDeVNan0]

The point that you and many others seem to completely overlook is the options open to different people in different markets.

Here in the UK, there is no suitable replacement phone on the market, period.

I can live without the s-pen, even though I like using it.
I can live without the iris scanner, even though I love the double-layer of protection it affords and I use it every day.
But I do not want a 1080p screen because it would be useless for VR
I don't want an LCD screen because I've had OLED for years and think they are massively superior
I NEED a micro sd slot because my phone is also my media player and I have 120GB of music I like to carry with me
I NEED more than 32GB of ram because I have a lot of apps
I NEED a really good camera
I like waterproof
I like USB-C, especially since the other phones in our house are now USB-C and anyway it's the way forward.

So what am I expected to switch to? Name me one device that would be a suitable replacement right now? The ZTE Axon 7 could be a possibility, but they are rare as rocking horse s**t over here and I am not buying from China on ebay. The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is not available yet. The Pixel is horrible, costs a fortune (even more so in 128GB form), has no microsd and most other of the above missing. The OnePlus 3 has a crappy 1080p screen. etc etc etc

Samsung are suggesting I switch to an S7E and lock myself into a 2 year contract with an S7E, so that I cannot upgrade to an S8E when that comes out in March. Do you think that sounds appealing?

And they are offering NO money back and the same cost per month for a much inferior product.

And you think we are mad to keep our Note7's? From where I am sitting, I'd be mad to return it.

Banggood isn't like Aliexpress. You wait but You get a real non fake device from official manufacturer.

And I have no idea what Samsung does with people who got their Note 7s with a contract. I think they should keep Your current contract but replace the device and lower contract price by the phones price difference.

And Mi Mix comes with most of those specs that Note 7/S7 Edge has.

Snapdragon 821.
6GB ram.
256GB UFS 2.0.
2040x1080 IPS Display (which isn't bad at all.) Newest ips displays are really close to amoleds. Even with deep blacks.
6'44 inch.
4400mAh battery.
Usb type c.
Quick Charge 3.0
16mp camera f2.0, 4k video.

For me this phone is a lot better than my s7 edge.
If Samsung would recall s7 edge and gave me my money back I would definitely go with this one.

But if the Note 7 fits You the most then keep it. If You don't care about updates, then sure.

And I prefer big phones (7-8 inch) just because I have big hands and s7 edge looks quite like a matchbox in my hands.
Once I had a 7 inch phablet and it was great. Only specs were poor but for doing everything on it.. perfect. Now I have a chinese tablet with specs that are nearly better than my s7 edge (got it for 200 usd) and if it only had ability to call I would use it as my phone. It even fits inside my pocket!

 

[Chippy_boy]

Yes, on a contract it's a mess. I am signed up for £42/m for 24 months $1,300 and I am 3 months in. If I switch to S7E, guess how much they reduce it by? £0.00. Absolutely bloody disgusting! When you think of the inconvenience we've all suffered, having to go through the 1st replacement, accessories that will no longer work and all of the hassle and stress and their BEST offer is to take a S7E for the same money. SAMSUNG, THAT ABSOLUTELY STINKS.

Or I can cancel the contract and watch my supplier **** up with the PAC code and me losing the number I've had for 17 years. I've asked them what the procedure is and half the time they say I need to get a PAC first, and the other times they say no they'll do that in store. I have ZERO confidence that they won't **** it up.

And after all this, I would be VERY reluctant to import a phone from China to be honest, but thanks for the recommendation anyway. If I could get a Huawei Mate 9 Pro from a UK supplier here, I'd swap tomorrow.

But I can't.

 

[tonymy01]

Chippy_boy, I understand your concern, but I think the hate is somewhat misdirected. Surely the cost of a plan is nothing to do with Samsung, it is up to your service provider to decide?
If you purchased outright and got no incentives to replace with an S7E by Samsung, very much agree it is poor (just got a $350 gift card from Samsung finally after downgrading to the S7E).
My service provider here (Optus) could see through their HLR or whatever that I was using an N7 still and were offering to take it from me and put me on a new 2 year contract with $100 credit to start, to get an S7E, the rep was probably wondering why I laughed so hard at him. I had already explained to him that I had purchased the phone outright directly from Samsung, so his wonderful(sarc) offer was actually locking me into a 2 year plan for a phone I actually didn't want. (My existing plan is about 3 months away from the end to paying off the Note 4 I gave my wife when I purchased the N7).
I said to please keep me in mind to providing credit/good deal/whatever when the Note 8 is released.


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[Chippy_boy]

Chippy_boy, I understand your concern, but I think the hate is somewhat misdirected. Surely the cost of a plan is nothing to do with Samsung, it is up to your service provider to decide?
If you purchased outright and got no incentives to replace with an S7E by Samsung, very much agree it is poor (just got a $350 gift card from Samsung finally after downgrading to the S7E).
My service provider here (Optus) could see through their HLR or whatever that I was using an N7 still and were offering to take it from me and put me on a new 2 year contract with $100 credit to start, to get an S7E, the rep was probably wondering why I laughed so hard at him. I had already explained to him that I had purchased the phone outright directly from Samsung, so his wonderful(sarc) offer was actually locking me into a 2 year plan for a phone I actually didn't want. (My existing plan is about 3 months away from the end to paying off the Note 4 I gave my wife when I purchased the N7).
I said to please keep me in mind to providing credit/good deal/whatever when the Note 8 is released.

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I am not so sure it has "nothing to do with Samsung". Samsung provide the phones to the carriers and resellers and SURELY??? the carriers aren't just giving their own money away when giving you a $100 credit? And what about the $350 gift card, that I also don't get?

Anyway, it matters not. The fact is the return package I am being offered is unappealling. I've decided I am keeping my Note 7 whilst it continues to work perfectly. I *may* seek to change it for an S8 in March / April, and if I get any resistance to that, then I won't bother and will just keep it indefinitely. (I am not remotely motivated by Nougat or lack thereof).

Should the situation change, and the phone ends up being blocked then they will have to replace it and if I get any hassle at that point, I will take my supplier to court, since the goods would no longer be "fit for purpose", nor "as described", nor "of satisfactory quality". Failure on any of these points is a breach of UK law, so it would be a slam dunk.

 

[tonymy01]

I didn't explain it well. I purchased my N7 from Samsung directly, their offer was $250+RRP price difference to the phone they would replace it with, S7 or S7E. But what carriers offered is entirely different, of course subsidised by Samsung but ultimately you organise with the carrier and not Samsung.

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[Chippy_boy]

I didn't explain it well. I purchased my N7 from Samsung directly, their offer was $250+RRP price difference to the phone they would replace it with, S7 or S7E. But what carriers offered is entirely different, of course subsidised by Samsung but ultimately you organise with the carrier and not Samsung.

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Thanks, and yes you explained it perfectly. My point is that if Samsung are handing out $350 credits in some territories, (a) they should be doing the same in ALL territories, and (b) they should be giving the resellers significant compensation as well, so that the resellers can offer similar credits.

Regards (a), it is wholly unreasonable I think, to have a global recall (especially in this case where Samsung are so very determined to get every phone returned) and yet to offer generous incentives in some territories and no incentives in others. If it's a global initiative, then it should have global and reasonably consistent incentives.

And (b) likewise the channel. It's utterly ridiculous to expect people to swap their Note7 for something inferior, and get no refund. If Samsung are so determined to get the phones back, then surely they must realise that resellers not offering any incentives, is not helping. What are Samsmug doing about that? Nothing.

And yet they continue to bang on about how you should hand your phone back. SAMSUNG: if you want it back, make it worth my while. All stick and no carrot is not doing it for me.

 

[drunkenbloke]

Thanks, and yes you explained it perfectly. My point is that if Samsung are handing out $350 credits in some territories, (a) they should be doing the same in ALL territories, and (b) they should be giving the resellers significant compensation as well, so that the resellers can offer similar credits.

Regards (a), it is wholly unreasonable I think, to have a global recall (especially in this case where Samsung are so very determined to get every phone returned) and yet to offer generous incentives in some territories and no incentives in others. If it's a global initiative, then it should have global and reasonably consistent incentives.

And (b) likewise the channel. It's utterly ridiculous to expect people to swap their Note7 for something inferior, and get no refund. If Samsung are so determined to get the phones back, then surely they must realise that resellers not offering any incentives, is not helping. What are Samsmug doing about that? Nothing.

And yet they continue to bang on about how you should hand your phone back. SAMSUNG: if you want it back, make it worth my while. All stick and no carrot is not doing it for me.

Chippy_boy completely agree with all you have said I have been trying to return my Note7 to O2 for over two months now their customer service on the the return is awful. All chasing with UK Mail has been left to me and I have had several days off work waiting on a courier that never arrives I am getting no compensation for my time and have pretty much lost all patience with them.

 

[corvette72778]

What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.

Thanks,

G

The answer is YES. You can still get an update without your SIM card and without your Wifi on. If the mobile data is on it WILL update. Just started up my S7 Edge replacement without the sim in (still in my Note 7) and the wifi not connected to my network yet. As soon as it started up it started downloading an update. I was surprised. The best way to to block updates as discussed in previous threads. I still haven't got an update on my Note 7 since I download the app to block them. Without the update blocking app you aren't "protected". lol

 

[Chippy_boy]

The answer is YES. You can still get an update without your SIM card and without your Wifi on. If the mobile data is on it WILL update. Just started up my S7 Edge replacement without the sim in (still in my Note 7) and the wifi not connected to my network yet. As soon as it started up it started downloading an update. I was surprised. The best way to to block updates as discussed in previous threads. I still haven't got an update on my Note 7 since I download the app to block them. Without the update blocking app you aren't "protected". lol

Wow, I am really surprised at that.

Obviously the carrier can access your phone without a sim, since they will allow emergency calls without a sim installed. So clearly a sim is not required in order for a phone to work.

But Samsung are not a carrier. I would have thought they would need to push updates to phones properly registered on the network. I am surprised they also can access phones without sims. Unless they get the network operators to push the updates for them? I guess I don't know how it works, but I am surprised anyway.

 

[corvette72778]

Well that's when its time to return it I suppose

Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

LOL

Why are so many people misinformed about the Note 7? There is a saying don't believe everything you read but people believe everything they read. People do not stop to think about what was written and if it is valid. News outlets automatically add note 7 to the title if there is some phone that melted. Take the news this weekend about Ceelo. The first headline out was Note 7 explodes and leaved Ceelo unconcious. It was never verified that it was a Note 7. There is no mention on the entire internet to support that this phone was used or thats the phone Ceelo used. It was just thrown into the headline because it will get more clicks. As it turns out, it was a stunt by Ceelo. But even then a note 7 was still not mentioned thats the phone he used.

I remember another article months ago about a Note 7 burning a kids hand. As it turns out, Note 7 was added to the title. It was later reported that it was not a Note 7, it was a Galaxy Prime.

Soo many people on here and around the world are misinformed and their perception is that you have a 99.999% chance of getting some type of burn or explosion from your Note 7. In fact its the opposite. About a .0003% chance which is just slightly higher than an S7 edge or iphone 7 but either way it is about the same as getting struck by lightening or getting hit by a car.

I am shocked how many incompetent people there are out there!

 

[Chippy_boy]

LOL

Why are so many people misinformed about the Note 7? There is a saying don't believe everything you read but people believe everything they read. People do not stop to think about what was written and if it is valid. News outlets automatically add note 7 to the title if there is some phone that melted. Take the news this weekend about Ceelo. The first headline out was Note 7 explodes and leaved Ceelo unconcious. It was never verified that it was a Note 7. There is no mention on the entire internet to support that this phone was used or thats the phone Ceelo used. It was just thrown into the headline because it will get more clicks. As it turns out, it was a stunt by Ceelo. But even then a note 7 was still not mentioned thats the phone he used.

I remember another article months ago about a Note 7 burning a kids hand. As it turns out, Note 7 was added to the title. It was later reported that it was not a Note 7, it was a Galaxy Prime.

Soo many people on here and around the world are misinformed and their perception is that you have a 99.999% chance of getting some type of burn or explosion from your Note 7. In fact its the opposite. About a .0003% chance which is just slightly higher than an S7 edge or iphone 7 but either way it is about the same as getting struck by lightening or getting hit by a car.

I am shocked how many incompetent people there are out there!

No, it's like holding a hand grenade with the pin pulled out. It can go off at any moment and could rip the side off buildings

 

[neavissa]

The answer is YES. You can still get an update without your SIM card and without your Wifi on. If the mobile data is on it WILL update. Just started up my S7 Edge replacement without the sim in (still in my Note 7) and the wifi not connected to my network yet. As soon as it started up it started downloading an update. I was surprised. The best way to to block updates as discussed in previous threads. I still haven't got an update on my Note 7 since I download the app to block them. Without the update blocking app you aren't "protected". lol

Damn it... I thought so! OK, I know you all will hate me asking, but where do I find the thread that talks about installing the "stop updates" app???

thanks,

G

 

[notjames]

It's not over until they block the imei, and even then, I'll attempt to change that too before I give up. I'll keep it until the Note 9 if I can.

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Here's my take. Samsung has never once called it a mandatory recall. They've ALWAYS said it was voluntary, which is quite confusing to me. Secondly, it's the carriers that determine whether cell service can be blocked to the phone or not. So it's the carriers that are forcing that if they are. I'm with Sprint. They are saying they will update the OS so that it will no longer hold a charge causing the phone to not be mobile anymore. Meh. We'll see. If Sprint turns the service off to my phone, I'm going to have some strongly worded email going out to them demanding reimbursement for the cell service I pay for. They can't turn my service off while I'm paying for it or that would be theft; recall or not; especially since it's still officially a voluntary recall.

Now, my $.02 on the whole battery exploding thing is this. I think it's a hoax. It has to be. Let me be more specific, the fact that it was a "huge issue" does not jive. It wasn't, in reality, a huge issue, or at least I never saw any evidence of it being one. Samsung couldn't reproduce it. Heck, they couldn't even fix the problem with the roll out of the "fixed" devices suggesting that they never could "find the problem" suggesting that there probably never was a problem. Now, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks about all of the other phone manufacturers delivering their latest and greatest just after the release of the Note 7 IE Apple, LG. It wouldn't take a lot to pay a few people to purchase a Note 7 and do something to it to cause it to "explode" in order to prepare to release the competition. I also find it quite suspicious that:

1. out of the millions of phones sold, an extremely tiny fraction of Note 7s were reported actually "exploded"
2. out of that tiny fraction, they all started "exploding" around the same time
3. even after the initial replacement, the "affected" fixed phones all exploded around the same time
4. the major recall happened
5. explosions immediately stopped.
6. i7 is released
7. V20 is released
8. no explosions reported since

And you KNOW at least thousands perhaps tens of thousands of people still have Note 7s in the wild and yet no more explosions. Something's fishy to me.

My observations about the way this "explosion" thing came to be is this: I noticed with my Note7 that if I plugged the USB-C in upside down (meaning the metal mesh of the usb connector was facing toward the front of the phone when plugged in), my battery would sometimes heat up. It never exploded and it never got so hot that I couldn't hold the phone. In fact, my Note 3 got just as hot when charging at times, too. If I reseated the USB-C cable so that the mesh was facing the back of the phone, no such heating occurred. I was able to reliably reproduce this with my phone (I sent an email to Samsung, but never received a reply). It wouldn't take much scheming to think of a way to sabotage the sale of the greatest phone by causing the phone to "explode" and then make a media frenzy about it. Samsung handled it the right way, imo. That said, when one considers that exploding phones haven't happened since the recall (as far as I have heard or know), everyone claiming to "be responsible" can stuff it.

My biggest hope is this: someone please help me find a way to bypass the locked bootloader on my SN-930P so that I can root/mod it and get past the stupidity of my provider. I've had my phone since August (literally got it the day it was released in the US). I've had no problems with it. This phone is hands-down the best smart phone to ever be released and I use the S-pen all the time!!! That's the one thing I must have!

 

[yevgen225]

Here's my take. Samsung has never once called it a mandatory recall. They've ALWAYS said it was voluntary, which is quite confusing to me. Secondly, it's the carriers that determine whether cell service can be blocked to the phone or not. So it's the carriers that are forcing that if they are. I'm with Sprint. They are saying they will update the OS so that it will no longer hold a charge causing the phone to not be mobile anymore. Meh. We'll see. If Sprint turns the service off to my phone, I'm going to have some strongly worded email going out to them demanding reimbursement for the cell service I pay for. They can't turn my service off while I'm paying for it or that would be theft; recall or not; especially since it's still officially a voluntary recall.

Now, my $.02 on the whole battery exploding thing is this. I think it's a hoax. It has to be. Let me be more specific, the fact that it was a "huge issue" does not jive. It wasn't, in reality, a huge issue, or at least I never saw any evidence of it being one. Samsung couldn't reproduce it. Heck, they couldn't even fix the problem with the roll out of the "fixed" devices suggesting that they never could "find the problem" suggesting that there probably never was a problem. Now, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks about all of the other phone manufacturers delivering their latest and greatest just after the release of the Note 7 IE Apple, LG. It wouldn't take a lot to pay a few people to purchase a Note 7 and do something to it to cause it to "explode" in order to prepare to release the competition. I also find it quite suspicious that:

1. out of the millions of phones sold, an extremely tiny fraction of Note 7s were reported actually "exploded"
2. out of that tiny fraction, they all started "exploding" around the same time
3. even after the initial replacement, the "affected" fixed phones all exploded around the same time
4. the major recall happened
5. explosions immediately stopped.
6. i7 is released
7. V20 is released
8. no explosions reported since

And you KNOW at least thousands perhaps tens of thousands of people still have Note 7s in the wild and yet no more explosions. Something's fishy to me.

My observations about the way this "explosion" thing came to be is this: I noticed with my Note7 that if I plugged the USB-C in upside down (meaning the metal mesh of the usb connector was facing toward the front of the phone when plugged in), my battery would sometimes heat up. It never exploded and it never got so hot that I couldn't hold the phone. In fact, my Note 3 got just as hot when charging at times, too. If I reseated the USB-C cable so that the mesh was facing the back of the phone, no such heating occurred. I was able to reliably reproduce this with my phone (I sent an email to Samsung, but never received a reply). It wouldn't take much scheming to think of a way to sabotage the sale of the greatest phone by causing the phone to "explode" and then make a media frenzy about it. Samsung handled it the right way, imo. That said, when one considers that exploding phones haven't happened since the recall (as far as I have heard or know), everyone claiming to "be responsible" can stuff it.

My biggest hope is this: someone please help me find a way to bypass the locked bootloader on my SN-930P so that I can root/mod it and get past the stupidity of my provider. I've had my phone since August (literally got it the day it was released in the US). I've had no problems with it. This phone is hands-down the best smart phone to ever be released and I use the S-pen all the time!!! That's the one thing I must have!

Very strange but I have been thinking the same way you do. Especially when another thing happened - When Note 7 was banned by some airline companies and then the very next week they announced explosion of already recalled note 7 right on the plane. It is seems suspicious to me. They probably did it intentionally.
If some advanced tech guy wants his phone to overheat which in some cases could lead to explosion it could be done by modifying software which controls battery functions and charging.
I won't be surprised if in near future they will find out that note 7 explosions it's only a conspiracy sabotage against Samsung. Why knows.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Here's my take. Samsung has never once called it a mandatory recall. They've ALWAYS said it was voluntary, which is quite confusing to me. Secondly, it's the carriers that determine whether cell service can be blocked to the phone or not. So it's the carriers that are forcing that if they are. I'm with Sprint. They are saying they will update the OS so that it will no longer hold a charge causing the phone to not be mobile anymore. Meh. We'll see. If Sprint turns the service off to my phone, I'm going to have some strongly worded email going out to them demanding reimbursement for the cell service I pay for. They can't turn my service off while I'm paying for it or that would be theft; recall or not; especially since it's still officially a voluntary recall.

Now, my $.02 on the whole battery exploding thing is this. I think it's a hoax. It has to be. Let me be more specific, the fact that it was a "huge issue" does not jive. It wasn't, in reality, a huge issue, or at least I never saw any evidence of it being one. Samsung couldn't reproduce it. Heck, they couldn't even fix the problem with the roll out of the "fixed" devices suggesting that they never could "find the problem" suggesting that there probably never was a problem. Now, the conspiracy theorist in me thinks about all of the other phone manufacturers delivering their latest and greatest just after the release of the Note 7 IE Apple, LG. It wouldn't take a lot to pay a few people to purchase a Note 7 and do something to it to cause it to "explode" in order to prepare to release the competition. I also find it quite suspicious that:

1. out of the millions of phones sold, an extremely tiny fraction of Note 7s were reported actually "exploded"
2. out of that tiny fraction, they all started "exploding" around the same time
3. even after the initial replacement, the "affected" fixed phones all exploded around the same time
4. the major recall happened
5. explosions immediately stopped.
6. i7 is released
7. V20 is released
8. no explosions reported since

And you KNOW at least thousands perhaps tens of thousands of people still have Note 7s in the wild and yet no more explosions. Something's fishy to me.

My observations about the way this "explosion" thing came to be is this: I noticed with my Note7 that if I plugged the USB-C in upside down (meaning the metal mesh of the usb connector was facing toward the front of the phone when plugged in), my battery would sometimes heat up. It never exploded and it never got so hot that I couldn't hold the phone. In fact, my Note 3 got just as hot when charging at times, too. If I reseated the USB-C cable so that the mesh was facing the back of the phone, no such heating occurred. I was able to reliably reproduce this with my phone (I sent an email to Samsung, but never received a reply). It wouldn't take much scheming to think of a way to sabotage the sale of the greatest phone by causing the phone to "explode" and then make a media frenzy about it. Samsung handled it the right way, imo. That said, when one considers that exploding phones haven't happened since the recall (as far as I have heard or know), everyone claiming to "be responsible" can stuff it.

My biggest hope is this: someone please help me find a way to bypass the locked bootloader on my SN-930P so that I can root/mod it and get past the stupidity of my provider. I've had my phone since August (literally got it the day it was released in the US). I've had no problems with it. This phone is hands-down the best smart phone to ever be released and I use the S-pen all the time!!! That's the one thing I must have!

I don't know mate. Perhaps we will never know for sure what this has all been about.

A small point though: I think there were around 2.5m Note7's shipped (and another 1.5m replacements). The total number in the market when Samsung finally decided to cancel the product was I believe 2.5m. On December 9th, Samsung said they 90% had been returned, so there were at that time 250,000 still in use. Even if half of those have since been returned, there's still over 100,000 Note7's out there at this time.

 

[themissionimpossible]

Samsung has never once called it a mandatory recall. They've ALWAYS said it was voluntary,

About the possible "voluntary" term misunderstanding... maybe you and others missed this explicative post about this definition:

Why do people think voluntary recall is any less serious?
"Most recalls of defective products are characterized as “voluntary,” a confusing term that can lead consumers to believe that the recall is optional. But voluntary recall is just government-speak for a deal that a manufacturer or retailer of a hazardous product has negotiated with the federal agency in charge of overseeing the safety of that product category. Voluntary recall would also seem to indicate that there are “mandatory recalls” that can be issued by the government should manufacturers or retailers refuse to cooperate, but nearly all the recalls announced last year were voluntary.


In light of this definition, consumers affected by this (or any other) recall should never assume voluntary implies:
less urgency for the need to comply with the recall, or that the recall is a preliminary measure taken by the company strictly out of an abundance of caution, i.e. that it would not otherwise be mandated by the regulating authority.
Do not be confused by the language: it is absolutely imperative that you take action and comply with the recall as soon as possible if you haven’t done so already."

This is from food safety site, but definition stands.


Aldo regarding liability:

"In some cases, a firm or company may initiate a recall voluntarily—meaning without a mandate from the CPSC. Such recalls are often the product of a negotiation between the product manufacturer/retailer with the federal agency that oversees their product category’s safety. Almost all announced recalls are voluntary. Voluntary product recalls are considered to be safeguards against potential lawsuits and sticky legal situations."

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69116188&postcount=21


To sum up:

• voluntary means that the recall has been asked "voluntarily" by a manufacturer/seller (Samsung in this case)
• mandatory means that an authority has imposed the recall on a manufacturer/seller

Therefore the "voluntary" has nothing to do with a possible customer's option to comply or not with the recall!

I hope these 2 terms are more clear now...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69139711&postcount=16

 

[Chippy_boy]

About the possible "voluntary" term misunderstanding... maybe you and others missed this explicative post about this definition:


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69116188&postcount=21


To sum up:

• voluntary means that the recall has been asked "voluntarily" by a manufacturer/seller (Samsung in this case)
• mandatory means that an authority has imposed the recall on a manufacturer/seller

Therefore the "voluntary" has nothing to do with a possible customer's option to comply or not with the recall!

I hope these 2 terms are more clear now...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69139711&postcount=16

Well, since I have the option to not comply, and I am exercising the option, you are obviously mistaken.