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Jonny

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I dont know if i should post this here but anyway so what i hate most about xda is that they dont make forums for phones that are not china but from a company like samsung and they are low end device. For example my phone which im using to post this hasnt even got a forum for it. Whoever is the main forum admin should really make forums for new low end device

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That is because XDA is a developer orientated forum. If there is not likely to be any development for a device then a forum will not get added for that device - not many developers go for the low end options so not many low end devices have forums and those that do are in the Legacy/Low activity sub forum.
 

ironman38102

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That is because XDA is a developer orientated forum. If there is not likely to be any development for a device then a forum will not get added for that device - not many developers go for the low end options so not many low end devices have forums and those that do are in the Legacy/Low activity sub forum.

Incase u havent seen my signature i have rooted and recovery is wip(its done actullay but its being tested.

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eagleeyetom

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I posted there so many times and i also pm the op but op said that the main forum admin makes the forum. I think mikechannon is the forum admin? If im not wrong?

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The thread mentioned by Jonny is the proper way of requesting device forums. If you want to increase your chances provide a list of ROMs/kernels/tools already made and I'm sure that it will be taken under consideration.
 

ironman38102

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The thread mentioned by Jonny is the proper way of requesting device forums. If you want to increase your chances provide a list of ROMs/kernels/tools already made and I'm sure that it will be taken under consideration.

That isnt a bad idea but no kernel but deodexed stock rom, some tools and a recovery are availiable for my phone

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farukb

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Hi, have 2 suggestions.

1. How about reorganizing development sections eg. create "kernel development" and "rom development" (maybe even third misc section) instead of "original android development" and "android development".

Kernel development became quite popular lately. (take a look here and here - there are almost more kernels than roms)

Original vs Android development doesn't make much sense anyway, since most of roms have various sources spliced. (if knowing particular sources is THAT important, devs could mention it respective OPs or even thread titles)

2. Remind developers of thread name rules, and make a form eg.

[ROM][4.3][release date in a specified form] name of the release [release version][source-original or port]

Where exact info must be provided in a certain order.
Instead of having tons of *[email protected]#*&[email protected]#$_) signs, different forms with mixed order and all kinds of different separators.

So you'd have

[ROM][4.2.2][08/30] XXX [r2][port]
[ROM][4.3.0][09/01] YYY [a1][original]
[ROM][4.1.2][07/05] ZZZ [2.1.3][port]
[KEREL][JSS15Q][08/25] kernel-name [version][OC][UV][etc][original]

instead of

|rom| .oO ROMNAME Oo. [superextraspecial feature]
{Aug 2.} rom XXX BY HOLYMOFODEVELOPER xx
kernel by john doe [3.4.1]

and so on...you get the point.
And if you make sections like i mentioned above, we wouldn't even need [ROM] and [KERNEL] indexes.

Those two would really make sections have that nice index-page look and feel, where everything is obvious and straightforward.
THAT would really help us A LOT.

I'm not asking of you to rearrange the whole site, but just have that in mind when creating new device forums...and maaaybe rearrange just a few latest devices where kernel and rom flood is at it's peak. (nexus 4, nexus 7, sgs4, etc)

THANKS!

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cities516

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Hi, have 2 suggestions.

1. How about reorganizing development sections eg. create "kernel development" and "rom development" (maybe even third misc section) instead of "original android development" and "android development".

Kernel development became quite popular lately. (take a look here and here - there are almost more kernels than roms)

Original vs Android development doesn't make much sense anyway, since most of roms have various sources spliced. (if knowing particular sources is THAT important, devs could mention it respective OPs or even thread titles)

2. Remind developers of thread name rules, and make a form eg.

[ROM][4.3][release date in a specified form] name of the release [release version][source-original or port]

Where exact info must be provided in a certain order.
Instead of having tons of *[email protected]#*&[email protected]#$_) signs, different forms with mixed order and all kinds of different separators.

So you'd have

[ROM][4.2.2][08/30] XXX [r2][port]
[ROM][4.3.0][09/01] YYY [a1][original]
[ROM][4.1.2][07/05] ZZZ [2.1.3][port]
[KEREL][JSS15Q][08/25] kernel-name [version][OC][UV][etc][original]

instead of

|rom| .oO ROMNAME Oo. [superextraspecial feature]
{Aug 2.} rom XXX BY HOLYMOFODEVELOPER xx
kernel by john doe [3.4.1]

and so on...you get the point.
And if you make sections like i mentioned above, we wouldn't even need [ROM] and [KERNEL] indexes.

Those two would really make sections have that nice index-page look and feel, where everything is obvious and straightforward.
THAT would really help us A LOT.

I'm not asking of you to rearrange the whole site, but just have that in mind when creating new device forums...and maaaybe rearrange just a few latest devices where kernel and rom flood is at it's peak. (nexus 4, nexus 7, sgs4, etc)

THANKS!

F

I think that version name doesn't need a bracket.
e.g. [ROM] Huessel Toolbox v3.2 [Linaro]
[KERNEL] Scrumpadoochous v2 | OC 2.7GHz | UV | Color Control [Original]

Imo, the "Theme & Apps" section is a lot disastrous than Development section.
You can see lots of different prefixes like [APP] [MOD] [PORT] [ Mod / Update 2/31] [ WiP ] ......

At least there are only [ROM] [KERNEL] [RECOVERY] or other huge mod development in Development section.
 
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ironman38102

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I think when requested a admin to make forum they should make it right away. I mean in my case i requested in new device forum thread plus pm'ed mikechannon(a forum admin) and now its been days but no forum. And im guessing the admins are drinking beers? XD

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roofrider

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I think when requested a admin to make forum they should make it right away. I mean in my case i requested in new device forum thread plus pm'ed mikechannon(a forum admin) and now its been days but no forum. And im guessing the admins are drinking beers? XD

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How many dev threads does your phone have?
 

ironman38102

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roofrider

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Thread links:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394839 for root method#1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380619 for root method #2 and deodexed stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399157 for development thread for cwm recovery

I would love if my phone gets a forum

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I don't think that is sufficient but things might be different now.
Couple of years back when i contacted Mike for the same reason with about 8 dev links, the reply was something along the lines of him not being the one in charge of assigning forums and that he has forwarded the request.
When nothing happened even after a month i contacted svetius and it was done in a week. Remember, by that time we had some activity going on than just a couple of threads.
 

ironman38102

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I don't think that is sufficient but things might be different now.
Couple of years back when i contacted Mike for the same reason with about 8 dev links, the reply was something along the lines of him not being the one in charge of assigning forums and that he has forwarded the request.
When nothing happened even after a month i contacted svetius and it was done in a week. Remember, by that time we had some activity going on than just a couple of threads.

Man we are making cwm but theres a werid problem with recovery and this device has spreadtrum cpu and they are known to be very hard to hack . And if u think ur so genius help us by clicking the thread link in my post! But i just posted my suggestion and opinion here about forum admins. Anyways might contact this forum admin u say. Thanks for help!

Edit: Could u give me a link to his profile?

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mdmower

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Notification improvements:

1) Include a link in the notifications drop-down: "Mark all as read"
2) When there are no new notifications, I have no idea how to go back and see old ones since the drop-down menu disappears. So, include "Notifications" under the Quick Links menu, maybe under Subscribed.
 

Jonny

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Man we are making cwm but theres a werid problem with recovery and this device has spreadtrum cpu and they are known to be very hard to hack . And if u think ur so genius help us by clicking the thread link in my post! But i just posted my suggestion and opinion here about forum admins. Anyways might contact this forum admin u say. Thanks for help!

Edit: Could u give me a link to his profile?

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Honestly I'm not sure that's enough to gain a dedicated forum, forgetting the stock deodexed ROM (which being honest is not development, its someone running the deodex option on dsixda's kitchen) you have a recovery and root. That's it.

I've seen devices with much more than that just having to cope with being in misc development because they didn't get their own forum. Maybe svetius might think otherwise though, the above is just my opinion.
 

Stryke_the_Orc

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Notification improvements:

1) Include a link in the notifications drop-down: "Mark all as read"
2) When there are no new notifications, I have no idea how to go back and see old ones since the drop-down menu disappears. So, include "Notifications" under the Quick Links menu, maybe under Subscribed.

Go to your profile, the notifications are there:beer:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
 
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ironman38102

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Honestly I'm not sure that's enough to gain a dedicated forum, forgetting the stock deodexed ROM (which being honest is not development, its someone running the deodex option on dsixda's kitchen) you have a recovery and root. That's it.

I've seen devices with much more than that just having to cope with being in misc development because they didn't get their own forum. Maybe svetius might think otherwise though, the above is just my opinion.

I did contact svetius but he asked me to give more thread links and I did give but theres no reply after. Maybe I need to wait...

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I did contact svetius but he asked me to give more thread links and I did give but theres no reply after. Maybe I need to wait...

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Yes you do. I don't think you have enough for a section, so therefore more needs to be made. Maybe if there was an AOSP ROM, CM port, enhanced stock ROMs, another recovery, some hacks and tweaks, and so on, you could get through.

Also, you gotta be nice. Seeing how you bashed roofrider makes me think svetius wasn't too impressed either. Oh, and, presentation. *You* instead of *u*, *your/you're* instead of *ur*. Just type proper English. Nobody should be telling you this. It just gets on my nerves.

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ironman38102

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Yes you do. I don't think you have enough for a section, so therefore more needs to be made. Maybe if there was an AOSP ROM, CM port, enhanced stock ROMs, another recovery, some hacks and tweaks, and so on, you could get through.

Also, you gotta be nice. Seeing how you bashed roofrider makes me think svetius wasn't too impressed either. Oh, and, presentation. *You* instead of *u*, *your/you're* instead of *ur*. Just type proper English. Nobody should be telling you this. It just gets on my nerves.

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Look I respect all mods and forum admins. Its just that I hate it that a device thats not even released gets a forum e.g Galaxy S4 and why you make the forum for such cases? Its because its famous and **** like that. I mean C'mon I got a Samsung phone and not atleast a Chinese tablet or phone like zte blade(I felt it shouldnt have got a forum here in xda) and we all users of Galaxy Star are requesting again and again to make forum. As of development lewa os is being ported and while cm10.1 is being compiled. I think its more than enough to get its forum plus It even got its first working recovery. Wolf Pup I respect you buddy but incase you were born in 1960s the *u* i use instead of *you* is to save time. I have got many things to do. Sorry if i was being rude but this is my opinion about xda handling forums.

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