Alternatives to the V²

[Sam K]

http://www.obiworldphone.com/

Unforunately the Obi SF1 only supports the following LTE bands and neither of them are used in the U.S.

4G LTE: FDD B3 1800 MHz & TDD B40 2300 MHz

 

[kenosis]

When/where can we buy it? I like the internals and price, but don't really care for the design.

It looks like they put an iphone on top of a windows phone and smushed them both together.

You can check it at
http://www.obiworldphone.com/press

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Unforunately the Obi SF1 only supports the following LTE bands and neither of them are used in the U.S.

4G LTE: FDD B3 1800 MHz & TDD B40 2300 MHz

Targeted markets for SF1 is Asia, Africa and Middle East according to official website

 

[shaxs]

Wow this looks awesome! http://gigaset.me/en_UK/

The Gigaset ME features a Gorilla Glass 3 protected 5-inch display with a resolution of 1080 x 1920. That is a pixel density of 441ppi. The Snapdragon 810 SoC is under the hood, although the octa-core CPU has been underclocked to 1.8GHz. The Adreno 430 GPU handles graphics. 3GB of RAM is inside, along with 32GB of expandable internal storage. Both the rear camera (16MP) and the front-facing camera (8MP) feature an f/2.0 aperture, allowing you to take pictures in low-light conditions. A fingerprint scanner is included and the phone offers dual SIM capabilities. A 3000mAh battery (with QuickCharge 2.0) powers the device, which does support 4G LTE connectivity. Android 5.1 is pre-installed with the Gigaset UI running on top.
Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/Giga...nveiled-in-Berlin_id73240#23sTCGSxxEz7zuKl.99

Only thing it doesnt have is a removable battery. Other than that, it looks pretty awesome.

 

[Stijn Maller]

Wow this looks awesome! http://gigaset.me/en_UK/
Only thing it doesnt have is a removable battery. Other than that, it looks pretty awesome.

Don't care about the removable battery much personally, it's missing the front facing speakers for me and I also don't like the glass backpanel. But you're right that phone is quite awesome. There are finally some decent alternatives on the way for those of us that love the Saygus V2 specs. (Todays Sony Xperia Z5 and yesterday's Nextbit Robin being 2 other contenders) I'm quite confident that the whole saygus nightmare will finally be forgotten in a few weeks time.

 

[Sam K]

Don't care about the removable battery much personally, it's missing the front facing speakers for me and I also don't like the glass backpanel. But you're right that phone is quite awesome. There are finally some decent alternatives on the way for those of us that love the Saygus V2 specs. (Todays Sony Xperia Z5 and yesterday's Nextbit Robin being 2 other contenders) I'm quite confident that the whole saygus nightmare will finally be forgotten in a few weeks time.

I agree that people will start forgetting about Saygus soon because of the upcoming fall phones. I expect the Sony Xperia Z5 and M5 so be good options as well the LG Nexus 5 2015 model with the latter 2 being the lower cost options.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the Sony models will be will be waterproof and dustproof which is better than just the waterproof feature on the Saygus. The Z5 and M5 models have Ingress Protection rating IP65/68.

 

[shaxs]

I agree that people will start forgetting about Saygus soon because of the upcoming fall phones. I expect the Sony Xperia Z5 and M5 so be good options as well the LG Nexus 5 2015 model with the latter 2 being the lower cost options.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the Sony models will be will be waterproof and dustproof which is better than just the waterproof feature on the Saygus. The Z5 and M5 models have Ingress Protection rating IP65/68.

All these options are larger (taller at least) of my G3. I want a smaller footprint phone, but not too small like the Z5 Compact. Again, Give me a LG G2 sized phone with 2015 features.

 

[hella356]

I'd say give me an S4 with flagship 2015 specs. I think high "screen to body ratio" phones in the 5.0" to 5.2" range are what a lot of people want, but the ones being made are largely using older, lower spec CPUs, still stuck at 2GB RAM (or less), small amounts of storage, usually no SD card or removable battery. The only true flagship level phone in this range on offer in the USA seems to be the S6. I assumed LG would release a G4 Mini in this size range, but they seem stuck on phablets now. The iPhone6 outsells the Plus, I wonder what the sales breakdown between the S6 & Note 5 will be.

 

[shaxs]

I'd say give me an S4 with flagship 2015 specs. I think high "screen to body ratio" phones in the 5.0" to 5.2" range are what a lot of people want, but the ones being made are largely using older, lower spec CPUs, still stuck at 2GB RAM (or less), small amounts of storage, usually no SD card or removable battery. The only true flagship level phone in this range on offer in the USA seems to be the S6. I assumed LG would release a G4 Mini in this size range, but they seem stuck on phablets now. The iPhone6 outsells the Plus, I wonder what the sales breakdown between the S6 & Note 5 will be.

Even the s6 is too big....

 

[hella356]

The S6 is inexplicably a fair amount taller than the S4. Thinner & only very slightly wider, but the top & bottom bezels have grown too much.

 

[waterplanet]

Here are the main features about V*V I find interesting:

A. Size and dimensions
B. "Battery to screen size"-ratio
C. Removable battery
D. Quick/Wireless charge
E. Pure android/Bloat-free
F. Available root access
G. Multi-Boot from SD
H. 64+ GB onboard storage
I. One SD-card slot
J. Two SD-card slots
K. Avoidance of SD810
L. Sunlight viewability
M. WiHD
N. Fingerprint scanner
O. Front facing speakers
P. Waterproof
Q. USB type C
R. Dual sim

For most of the features its possible to find some phones that have them, but does not seem to exist any phone that have all, or at least most, of these features. For instance, the LG G4 have removable-battery and one SD-card slot, but very few of the other features. Galaxy S6 ticks maybe 4 out of 18 boxes. Also most other phones seems to have serious deal-breakers, like poor battery life (Galaxy S6), SD810 (Z5, OP2), Moto X style is far to big, the new nexus 5 from LG only have 32 gb internal storage and no SD-card support. Poor battery life + non-removable battery seems to be a problem with almost all phones available today. It's hard for me to see any "nightmare" ending soon. I guess I'll wait for the newer SD820 devices to arrive next year, and see what they have to offer.

 

[vittogn]

Here are the main features about V*V I find interesting:

A. Size and dimensions
B. "Battery to screen size"-ratio
C. Removable battery
D. Quick/Wireless charge
E. Pure android/Bloat-free
F. Available root access
G. Multi-Boot from SD
H. 64+ GB onboard storage
I. One SD-card slot
J. Two SD-card slots
K. Avoidance of SD810
L. Sunlight viewability
M. WiHD
N. Fingerprint scanner
O. Front facing speakers
P. Waterproof
Q. USB type C
R. Dual sim

For most of the features its possible to find some phones that have them, but does not seem to exist any phone that have all, or at least most, of these features. For instance, the LG G4 have removable-battery and one SD-card slot, but very few of the other features. Galaxy S6 ticks maybe 4 out of 18 boxes. Also most other phones seems to have serious deal-breakers, like poor battery life (Galaxy S6), SD810 (Z5, OP2), Moto X style is far to big, the new nexus 5 from LG only have 32 gb internal storage and no SD-card support. Poor battery life + non-removable battery seems to be a problem with almost all phones available today. It's hard for me to see any "nightmare" ending soon. I guess I'll wait for the newer SD820 devices to arrive next year, and see what they have to offer.

I think the best alternative at the moment are Z3 and Z3c.

But I agree on paper the V2 is a dream.
Sunlight visibility and the actual quality of colours have to verified, hard to judge on paper.

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[Jkteam]

i went with moto x pure finally. waiting for the refund of saygus.
my s2 died officialy so had to make a quick choice and for 400$ is not a very hard choice.actually 450 since i took 32gb.
only thing is huge screen both with a not so bad screen to body ratio we will see. it's the first time i am giving a chance to a such big screen (never had more than 5 inches) . i shall see

 

[courtneyomg]

Hi, I'm Courtney and new here.

Related to the V2, has anyone else contributed to the V2 Indiegogo campaign when it was still live and - now that they've gone ghost - are demanding a refund? I've already contacted Saygus (told me to refer to IG's new refund policy and did not respond to my reply), my credit card company and Indiegogo. I'm waiting to hear back from IG but from what I've read, they're not much help. I don't think this will be an easy fight.

 

[Sam K]

It looks like the OnePlus X will be a good alternative to the Saygus.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-X--Mini-hardware-specs-confirmed-by-TENAA-leak_id74697
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-x-to-launch-october-29-649011/

4.99" 1080p OLED display
Snapdragon 801 or MediaTek MT6795
2GB or 3GB of RAM
16GB or 32GB of storage
microSD card slot
13MP primary camera (no OIS)
8MP front-facing camera
IP67 certification
2450 mAh battery
NFC
FM radio
IR blaster
front facing speakers

I expect it to be much less than expensive than the Saygus. According to this tweet from OnePlus, we should find out all the details on Oct 29.

https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/654144640732528640

 

[vittogn]

It looks like the OnePlus X will be a good alternative to the Saygus.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-X--Mini-hardware-specs-confirmed-by-TENAA-leak_id74697
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-x-to-launch-october-29-649011/

4.99" 1080p OLED display
Snapdragon 801 or MediaTek MT6795
2GB or 3GB of RAM
16GB or 32GB of storage
microSD card slot
13MP primary camera (no OIS)
8MP front-facing camera
IP67 certification
2450 mAh battery
NFC
FM radio
IR blaster
front facing speakers

I expect it to be much less than expensive than the Saygus. According to this tweet from OnePlus, we should find out all the details on Oct 29.

https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/654144640732528640

Battery seems a bit small, let's hope it is removable. I hope but don't believe in sd slot.

The big point is that this guy is not gonna be that inferior to Saygus V2 at a third of the price. Tough competition for Saygus here.

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[vittogn]

What about this? The pro version looks to be interesting!

http://www.gizguide.com/2015/10/blueboo-xtouch-photos.html?m=1

I hope for removable battery and stock android like many Chinese Mediatek phones.

Again the price looks to be much lower.
I hope saygus price will soon get down to 400, otherwise I doubt note see a lot of sales.

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[ValtheBatman]

Moto Droid Turbo 2 for Verizon in the US or outside US would be Moto X Force.
Awesome phone with amazing specs, pretty much everything that saygus has and somewhat more and some less, but a more respectable company at least.

 

[waterplanet]

Galaxy S7 does not seem to bad, if the rumors are true. It will get waterproofing and sd card support. 4GB ram and sd820 (or exynos). 3Ah battery. 5.1'' screen.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobi...pecs-price-rumours-antutu-leak-confirms-specs

The biggest disadvantages compared to V2 is probably lack of root support, bloatware/touchwiz, size and the non-removable battery. (At least from my point of view.)

 

[Huey]

Galaxy S7 does not seem to bad, if the rumors are true. It will get waterproofing and sd card support. 4GB ram and sd820 (or exynos). 3Ah battery. 5.1'' screen.

Looks good, but might be frail, maybe there'll be a Active?

Currently SGS6 Active now it has 64GB is tempting, though a little pricey. And a legit UK source would be good.
Key features for me are rugged, waterPROOF, RAM and onboard storage size, big battery, Qi, NFC, IR (yes indeed) and decent camera(s). Basically - almost a V2 - but this one exists :victory: It also has another button :highfive:
Still on the lookout for dual SIM and SD card though. Replaceable battery would be nice, but I can live without that if the other boxes are ticked.

 

[waterplanet]

Looks good, but might be frail, maybe there'll be a Active?

Currently SGS6 Active now it has 64GB is tempting, though a little pricey. And a legit UK source would be good.
Key features for me are rugged, waterPROOF, RAM and onboard storage size, big battery, Qi, NFC, IR (yes indeed) and decent camera(s). Basically - almost a V2 - but this one exists :victory: It also has another button :highfive:
Still on the lookout for dual SIM and SD card though. Replaceable battery would be nice, but I can live without that if the other boxes are ticked.

S6 active will probably get a price drop after S7 is released, so its probably better to wait for the S7 release.

For me the lack of fingerprint scanner becomes a deal breaker, othervise 64GB S6 active seems interesting.