And Fairphone?
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Yesterday I read up on the Keon and Firefox OS. How exciting and how promising. And what fun to be (or witness) reshaping low-end-technology (and market) as is happening here and now...
I can't wait for further milestones in this process!
All thumbs up to the Mozilla alliance :thumbup: :thumbup:
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They did it. And the only thing holding me back buying this thing is: I don't know how many people will port some custom roms to this, like CM. I really got used to some features of CM. And if the modded android of fairphone is not very good, I would like to swich to another rom. But If nobody develops stuff for it, it would be a shame 
Unfortunatly I have too less time on my hands and too little knowledge to port CM myself. I guess I have to sleep on it few more nights But this thing looks hot (at least on the spec sheet)
Unfortunatly I have too less time on my hands and too little knowledge to port CM myself. I guess I have to sleep on it few more nights
But this thing looks hot (at least on the spec sheet)
Congratulations to all those thinking Fairphone already! The following email was just released, and of course I'm sharing it here with you:
'YOU have made it possible to start production!
5,000 MILESTONE
We have just reached a HUGE milestone. In just three weeks, more than 5,000 people have pre-ordered a Fairphone, making a step toward changing the way products are made and showing that there is a REAL customer demand for greater ACCOUNTABILITY of our products. Yeah!
You've also made it possible to kick-start manufacturing without needing outside investment. To thank you, we have a special limited edition for everyone who orders before June 14.
SPECIAL EDITION UNTIL JUNE 14
To stay on this path, please keep sharing and ordering. We’ll be producing 20,000 phones for our first batch, and everyone who orders before the 14th gets a special limited edition!
What is it? Well, it's a way of expressing our thanks and giving you the credit for making this all possible. We're not going to say what it is exactly, that's not very fun! But think: "open it up, own it, and show off that you're part of the first who started this movement for change."
NOW WHAT? ONWARD TO 20,000!
On the 17th of June, we start development and production of our 20,000 phones that will stretch across the summer. After that, we'll be delivering the phones at your doorstep in autumn. More on that here in a fun animation from our Community Manager, Joe.
So, keep sharing and keep buying. We are Fairphone!
BUY A PHONE, START A MOVEMENT!
The Fairphone Team.'
... and I find it hard to imagine that, after such a promising kick-off of this remarkable project, no ROM at all would get ported to this new phone. If only because the special Kwame software skin will trigger many developers further. There is room for confidence here
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'YOU have made it possible to start production!
5,000 MILESTONE
We have just reached a HUGE milestone. In just three weeks, more than 5,000 people have pre-ordered a Fairphone, making a step toward changing the way products are made and showing that there is a REAL customer demand for greater ACCOUNTABILITY of our products. Yeah!
You've also made it possible to kick-start manufacturing without needing outside investment. To thank you, we have a special limited edition for everyone who orders before June 14.
SPECIAL EDITION UNTIL JUNE 14
To stay on this path, please keep sharing and ordering. We’ll be producing 20,000 phones for our first batch, and everyone who orders before the 14th gets a special limited edition!
What is it? Well, it's a way of expressing our thanks and giving you the credit for making this all possible. We're not going to say what it is exactly, that's not very fun! But think: "open it up, own it, and show off that you're part of the first who started this movement for change."
NOW WHAT? ONWARD TO 20,000!
On the 17th of June, we start development and production of our 20,000 phones that will stretch across the summer. After that, we'll be delivering the phones at your doorstep in autumn. More on that here in a fun animation from our Community Manager, Joe.
So, keep sharing and keep buying. We are Fairphone!
BUY A PHONE, START A MOVEMENT!
The Fairphone Team.'
... and I find it hard to imagine that, after such a promising kick-off of this remarkable project, no ROM at all would get ported to this new phone. If only because the special Kwame software skin will trigger many developers further. There is room for confidence here
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Looking. No touching. Yet
A well-trained Western consumer myself I must now fight off the urge to go and buy what I don't need (yet). My Galaxy S just won't break down and might even have a few more years to give. I could sell it, but not for much, probably. Again, price would not equal worth in that scenario...
So, while supporting Fairphone where I can, I will quietly continue my merry way and NOT buy a Fairphone myself - yet. I do expect it to be the very next phone I am going to own. However, it is a serious pity I'll have to pass on this first wave of pretty Limited Editions :crying:
A well-trained Western consumer myself I must now fight off the urge to go and buy what I don't need (yet). My Galaxy S just won't break down and might even have a few more years to give. I could sell it, but not for much, probably. Again, price would not equal worth in that scenario...
So, while supporting Fairphone where I can, I will quietly continue my merry way and NOT buy a Fairphone myself - yet. I do expect it to be the very next phone I am going to own. However, it is a serious pity I'll have to pass on this first wave of pretty Limited Editions :crying:
i've just discovered the existence of this AMAZING project
this is what the word COMMUNITY is about in the best possible way:good:
only problem is that i've ordered a nexus 4 yesterday... but ehi i guess i can sold it when i get this one
hope this phone gets the interest and the support that it deserves by the whole android community
this is what the word COMMUNITY is about in the best possible way:good:
only problem is that i've ordered a nexus 4 yesterday... but ehi i guess i can sold it when i get this one
hope this phone gets the interest and the support that it deserves by the whole android community
They did it. And the only thing holding me back buying this thing is: I don't know how many people will port some custom roms to this, like CM. I really got used to some features of CM. And if the modded android of fairphone is not very good, I would like to swich to another rom. But If nobody develops stuff for it, it would be a shame
Unfortunatly I have too less time on my hands and too little knowledge to port CM myself. I guess I have to sleep on it few more nights
Well I'll do my best
I'm still kind of a noob in android development, but I'm learning fast Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Well I'll do my best
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
That would be really great :good:
As per now, 6,554 phones have been sold. Fairphone has definitively picked up momentum.
Let's hope the sales number as well as the thousands of likes for Fairphone are a good indication that a brand new community is rising. I think they must be.
Which would mean that more and more people will find their way to this thread and forum too, in the coming months, while all at Fairphone work their hardest to produce the first batch of 20,000 around August/September, and in the weeks and months after that, when the candy find its way to all first buyers and fans.
For a short while it may become a bit more quiet. A few last specs will have to be determined, and than that's that, I guess. All the rest of the proof of the pudding will of course be in the eating. I can't wait for first impressions.
I too will keep following all Fairphone news closely, hoping that the real devs (which I am not, unfortunately) manage to push this special project to new limits, and keep inspiring happy users like myself to humbly spread the word
For now I'm sort of surrendering to summer recess. But CU all later!
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Let's hope the sales number as well as the thousands of likes for Fairphone are a good indication that a brand new community is rising. I think they must be.
Which would mean that more and more people will find their way to this thread and forum too, in the coming months, while all at Fairphone work their hardest to produce the first batch of 20,000 around August/September, and in the weeks and months after that, when the candy find its way to all first buyers and fans.
For a short while it may become a bit more quiet. A few last specs will have to be determined, and than that's that, I guess. All the rest of the proof of the pudding will of course be in the eating. I can't wait for first impressions.
I too will keep following all Fairphone news closely, hoping that the real devs (which I am not, unfortunately) manage to push this special project to new limits, and keep inspiring happy users like myself to humbly spread the word
For now I'm sort of surrendering to summer recess. But CU all later!
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Great goal for Fairphone.. I hope now to semptember/october they can achieve the next goal of 20.000 unit sell. I am waiting for my Fairphone (nr. #1203) now.
In the end i've made my choice and ordered a fairphone
mine is number 7359 and I've placed my order yesterday.. now the counter is at 8241
but the best thing is that it was 8235 a sew secs ago!!
are we going to hit 10k before tomorrow night?
not really shure about it, but ehi it's already near the double needed to start this
mine is number 7359 and I've placed my order yesterday.. now the counter is at 8241
but the best thing is that it was 8235 a sew secs ago!!
are we going to hit 10k before tomorrow night?
not really shure about it, but ehi it's already near the double needed to start this
Hi Deedend, I know about that project and I am very happy about the try to get a "fair phone". It's a first step which all manufacturer should follow. The device is not high end, but as I believe after seeing the ability of the built in SoC (not all facts are out there) in some benchmarks, I think it can beat our beloved Galaxy Nexus.
However, this projects aims another goal than winning speed tests. I like it, my brother ordered one as well. Maybe we should ask for a separate forum when it is sent to its customers.
In the end i've made my choice and ordered a fairphone
mine is number 7359 and I've placed my order yesterday.. now the counter is at 8241
but the best thing is that it was 8235 a sew secs ago!!
are we going to hit 10k before tomorrow night?
not really shure about it, but ehi it's already near the double needed to start this
Currently, we are at 9440 ordered Fairphones. I hope this project, located in Netherland, home of some wonderful people like @Chainfire, will be a success and can go on with further products teaching the big ones like Asus, HTC, LG, Samsung, Sony... and others.
Just to mention, now they sold 10,035 phones, that's slightly more than 50%.
They have changed the screen type and will collaborate with iFixit to improve the "repairability" of the phone... Very interesting point for me!
Saw this too. Good news. Most of all a great example of how intended ownership of products is to be achieved.
Hopefully repairability will equally apply to the hardware buttons on this phone.
Furthermore I've been wondering what quality photos this camera will be capable of. Anyone have any idea what to expect?
For lack of further specifications I could not retrieve benchmarks and such for this particular part of the Fairphone project.
(Regarding the quad-core chipset I could, fortunately, and I found that it does a fine job in many low and middle end Chinaphones already, as well as in at least one Acer phone with a favorable review.)
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Hopefully repairability will equally apply to the hardware buttons on this phone.
Furthermore I've been wondering what quality photos this camera will be capable of. Anyone have any idea what to expect?
For lack of further specifications I could not retrieve benchmarks and such for this particular part of the Fairphone project.
(Regarding the quad-core chipset I could, fortunately, and I found that it does a fine job in many low and middle end Chinaphones already, as well as in at least one Acer phone with a favorable review.)
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Oh yes, indeed. My aged Galaxy Nexus is probably slower than this Fairphone, so not so bad, also the battery can last longer than on the Gnex, but compared to the also "old" Galaxy S3 LTE, the Fairphone is way slower. Ok, there are no benchmarks out now, but the SoC benchmarks available in the internet might show up an accurate result. My brother bought one, so, I can provide you with all benchmarks, if he gets it.
Oh yes, indeed. My aged Galaxy Nexus is probably slower than this Fairphone, so not so bad, also the battery can last longer than on the Gnex, but compared to the also "old" Galaxy S3 LTE, the Fairphone is way slower. Ok, there are no benchmarks out now, but the SoC benchmarks available in the internet might show up an accurate result. My brother bought one, so, I can provide you with all benchmarks, if he gets it.
Thanks for your help in 'benchmarking'
It does help. Made me check out what has been reported about the Galaxy Nexus. Totally acceptable playing field for me with regards to SoC performances.Question marks about the level of photography and video capabilities still remain, although I can't imagine them to be too poor for an unpretentious amateur in those fields, such as myself.
Just wishing to be able to occasionally produce pictures (the lucky shots we all can make from time to time) that still look good on a bigger screen, or perhaps even framed on the wall at a reasonable size, resolutionwise.
And as for video, I would be asking for acceptable colors, acceptable resolution, and an unhindered capability, chipwise, to process video shooting without frequent hiccups for no apparent reason (as if I were answering a Skype call right in the middle, or something like that
). Your comparison and the known G Nexus benchmarks seem to suggest that this Fairphone would indeed be able to deliver as much as this...
Do you still agree? Or would you as a tester definitively suggest I wait until others have had the chance to test this for me?
Cheers!
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Thanks for your help in 'benchmarking'
Question marks about the level of photography and video capabilities still remain, although I can't imagine them to be too poor for an unpretentious amateur in those fields, such as myself.
Just wishing to be able to occasionally produce pictures (the lucky shots we all can make from time to time) that still look good on a bigger screen, or perhaps even framed on the wall at a reasonable size, resolutionwise.
And as for video, I would be asking for acceptable colors, acceptable resolution, and an unhindered capability, chipwise, to process video shooting without frequent hiccupsfor no apparent reason (as if I were answering a Skype call right in the middle, or something like that
Your comparison and the known G Nexus benchmarks seem to suggest that this Fairphone would indeed be able to deliver as much as this...
Do you still agree? Or would you as a tester definitively suggest I wait until others have had the chance to test ask this for me?
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First of all, I really appreciate, that even on the "tech center" of mobile smart devices, here on XDA, there are a few guys interested in a mid range, but (mostly) FAIR built phone. I hope the big manufacturers will follow a more fair resource gathering.
I started a technical details page on XDA, where you can find some benchmarks. Ok, there is no Fairphone available yet, but the other benchmarks available with this SoC should be very close to the Fairphones results. As you can see, it beats the Gnex definitely in the benchmarks (mostly Antutu) and - believe me - the Gnex gets quite warm very fast. My Gnex at 1.4 GHz has no chance, Antutu is below 10.000.
Maybe you find better information, I would like to integrate it there, thanks.
Fairphone - The Technical Details And Links (WIP)
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3What about the FairPhone project? Anyone interested? I like to see Firefox OS on this device in future, does anyone have my same idea?
Link: Fairphone - Technical Details And Links3
Hi Deedend, I know about that project and I am very happy about the try to get a "fair phone". It's a first step which all manufacturer should follow. The device is not high end, but as I believe after seeing the ability of the built in SoC (not all facts are out there) in some benchmarks, I think it can beat our beloved Galaxy Nexus.
However, this projects aims another goal than winning speed tests. I like it, my brother ordered one as well. Maybe we should ask for a separate forum when it is sent to its customers.
In the end i've made my choice and ordered a fairphone
mine is number 7359 and I've placed my order yesterday.. now the counter is at 8241
but the best thing is that it was 8235 a sew secs ago!!
are we going to hit 10k before tomorrow night?
not really shure about it, but ehi it's already near the double needed to start this
Currently, we are at 9440 ordered Fairphones. I hope this project, located in Netherland, home of some wonderful people like @Chainfire, will be a success and can go on with further products teaching the big ones like Asus, HTC, LG, Samsung, Sony... and others.3
I'll assume you're not just trolling here. However, your cynicism gives offense. Perhaps because it is the cheapest thing around.
Fairphone are going to great lengths to inform the public in detail, including you. You seem to have overlooked most of that information.
Regarding your estimate of what "a couple of conflict-free minerals" should cost, it seems you're taking for granted all costs paid conveniently out of sight and by others than yourself.
I wish you a conflict-free day and happy phoning, at any price you can afford.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app3Hi there,
Let me introduce myself. I am Kim Hansen, CTO of Kwamecorp. We are building the FairPhone OS and helping FairPhone as much as we can to create a more fair phone.
I was overwhelmed to read all the positive comments about the FairPhone project and the fact that XDA-developers have been following it, ordered FairPhones and discussing forth and back about the concept.
I think the chipset argument is very good, since the MediaTek is not very open. However, this version of the FairPhone is the first step in the FairPhone story that we believe will go far. The choice was made to be able to get a product out that was more fair than what you can find on the market currently in a very short time.
I know the main guys behind the project (Miquel Ballester and Bas van Abel) and they are as far as I know doing everything they can to build a fairer phone.
We are very interested in hearing how we can make the FairPhone more fair for the next version.
Currently we have entered our Quality Assurance period and are planning to provide the release candidate code in one month.2I already ordered a FairPhone. But I'm not so interested in Firefox OS, rather in porting the FairPhone OS (which will be based on Android but with some modifications) to other devices and porting some Custom ROMs (I'm thinking of RootBox and SuperNexus cause they're my favorites) to FairPhone. And I'll make lots of videos about it on YouTube (Unboxing, tests, comparisons with other phones and so on...)
