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murphyjasonc

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I'm itching to try Android 12. I've always jumped on board as soon as beta 3 dropped ever since my Nexus days. I don't recall experiencing any major issues that made the OS unusable or unbearable for me day to day. I guess I'm asking is if the bugs I've been reading about here are minor annoyances that most can live with or if beta 3 is just not ready for my daily driver? I normally jump right in with both feet but I don't recall seeing so many people reporting bugs and nearly as many saying its running fine.
 

MArtyChubbs

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I'm itching to try Android 12. I've always jumped on board as soon as beta 3 dropped ever since my Nexus days. I don't recall experiencing any major issues that made the OS unusable or unbearable for me day to day. I guess I'm asking is if the bugs I've been reading about here are minor annoyances that most can live with or if beta 3 is just not ready for my daily driver? I normally jump right in with both feet but I don't recall seeing so many people reporting bugs and nearly as many saying its running fine.
It's probably based off of use case. Give it a shot and let us know your experience compared to previous phones?
 

gettinwicked

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It just dawned on me that I did a factory reset from the phone instead of flashing. I had a custom kernel on it too. Would that be enough for my issues to continue after the reset? I know it's not ideal since the kernel will carry over. I'm at a point right now where I'm not fully setup, so I wouldn't cry over another reset.
 
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MArtyChubbs

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Yeah if you're on a custom kernel you'll have to flash the factory images for beta 3 which will overwrite the custom kernel otherwise I don't think you can take OTAs. I don't think you'll have to do another factory reset just remove the minus w from The flash script and it won't erase your data.
 

gettinwicked

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Yeah if you're on a custom kernel you'll have to flash the factory images for beta 3 which will overwrite the custom kernel otherwise I don't think you can take OTAs. I don't think you'll have to do another factory reset just remove the minus w from The flash script and it won't erase your data.
Well, before I realized I hadn't at least flashed the boot image before resetting, I flashed the custom kernel.
 

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FYI, to anyone having the Android auto issue where it turns off the AOD and acts like the app is open (shows it is in the notification panel), I got on the AA beta, and the beta install fixed this.

After the second wipe, my battery life is all over the place. Some days it's really good, back to normal, others its just bad. I really hope they push 3.1 this week, and that it has a ton of fixes.
 

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FYI, to anyone having the Android auto issue where it turns off the AOD and acts like the app is open (shows it is in the notification panel), I got on the AA beta, and the beta install fixed this.

After the second wipe, my battery life is all over the place. Some days it's really good, back to normal, others its just bad. I really hope they push 3.1 this week, and that it has a ton of fixes.
They pushed 3.1 today.
 

gettinwicked

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Not that buggy for me at all
The main one for me is that I typically do not get notification popups on the AOD for anything. And no notification icons either. If I tap the screen to wake, it resolves those for a short bit. The others I can live with for the most part. I would have thought they'd push out a bunch of fixes though... At least the UI crashes are (hopefully) fixed.
 

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The main one for me is that I typically do not get notification popups on the AOD for anything. And no notification icons either. If I tap the screen to wake, it resolves those for a short bit. The others I can live with for the most part. I would have thought they'd push out a bunch of fixes though... At least the UI crashes are (hopefully) fixed.
Well they said they're pushing out more updates via playstore updates, so there's probably a bunch coming there too.
 

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Did you guys clean flash the beta or did you install the OTA from the dev page?
I have tons of bugs on mine, having downloaded the OTA from the dev channel.
3.1 has not resolved any of them. I am wondering whether to wipe and do a clean install. The strange thing is that Beta 1&2 worked great for me...
 

StrangerWeather

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Flashed b3.1. smooth so far...😬
Yeah, same with me. I really haven't had any problems at all.
Not that buggy for me at all
Did you guys clean flash the beta or did you install the OTA from the dev page?
I have tons of bugs on mine, having downloaded the OTA from the dev channel.
3.1 has not resolved any of them. I am wondering whether to wipe and do a clean install. The strange thing is that Beta 1&2 worked great for me...
 

Lughnasadh

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Did you guys clean flash the beta or did you install the OTA from the dev page?
I have tons of bugs on mine, having downloaded the OTA from the dev channel.
3.1 has not resolved any of them. I am wondering whether to wipe and do a clean install. The strange thing is that Beta 1&2 worked great for me...
I cleaned flashed the 1st Beta via factory image and then dirty flashed (by removing the -w from the flash-all.bat file) the remaining factory images thereafter.
 
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gettinwicked

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Did you guys clean flash the beta or did you install the OTA from the dev page?
I have tons of bugs on mine, having downloaded the OTA from the dev channel.
3.1 has not resolved any of them. I am wondering whether to wipe and do a clean install. The strange thing is that Beta 1&2 worked great for me...
I clean flashed beta 3 twice, still having some issues... 3.1 *mostly* fixed the UI crashes. I still don't get notification popups, nor notification icons on the AOD. It still gets stuck in recents sometimes. Just this morning it did that then locked up the UI for a bit. I'm glad I'm not the only one with issues! Google really needs to fix this stuff.
 

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Beta 3.1 is so ****ty. GA BARELY works. They really need to refine the one advantage they have. I almost feel they are purposely making it ****ty so I'll upgrade.
 

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    I cleaned installed the first beta factory image via flash-all command. Subsequently updated each beta via flash-all with the -w removed from the flash-all.bat file to keep data. Have had no problems patching the boot image of each beta with Magisk and flashing the patched boot image via fastboot flash boot xxxx.img command. Never had to run a command to disable AVB and Verity.

    So no, there isn't a new step, at least with the method I've been using.
    Great, and thanks for your reply. Maybe it was because I first tried a dirty flash 11-12. Then fully wiped. I'm having issues with Fidelity app not installing and pretty sure it is due to the security. I've read every new image flash restores the AVB/Verity, so next time I will revert to what I've been doing for years. Cheers.
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    They've already said it's staying black. I also agree with you, I think it's absolutely hideous to look at. Especially for people who don't use/like dark mode. This is Android 12's biggest downfall. It's nasty.
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    just flashed the latest and the "at a glance" weather is missing.
    anyone else experience this?
    At A Glance is being replaced by the new live space widget... Have a look here: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-beta-5-changelog/#android12beta5_livespacewidget
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    thanks for the info i had no clue
    peace
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    So far it seems like the biggest issues I've been having are fixed. Now I see notification icons on the AOD, no more UI crashes or lockups. However, the notification popups on the AOD are still hit or miss. Overall, much better. Still room to improve though.
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    Did you guys clean flash the beta or did you install the OTA from the dev page?
    I have tons of bugs on mine, having downloaded the OTA from the dev channel.
    3.1 has not resolved any of them. I am wondering whether to wipe and do a clean install. The strange thing is that Beta 1&2 worked great for me...
    I clean flashed beta 3 twice, still having some issues... 3.1 *mostly* fixed the UI crashes. I still don't get notification popups, nor notification icons on the AOD. It still gets stuck in recents sometimes. Just this morning it did that then locked up the UI for a bit. I'm glad I'm not the only one with issues! Google really needs to fix this stuff.
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    FYI, to anyone having the Android auto issue where it turns off the AOD and acts like the app is open (shows it is in the notification panel), I got on the AA beta, and the beta install fixed this.

    After the second wipe, my battery life is all over the place. Some days it's really good, back to normal, others its just bad. I really hope they push 3.1 this week, and that it has a ton of fixes.
    They pushed 3.1 today.
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    I'm keen to install but does anybody know if Barclays and Natwest apps work with 12 Beta?
    Replying to my own question: yes, they work.
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    thanks for the info i had no clue
    peace