Android 4.3: Reverting to google talk from hangout

[ms.journie]

Oops I thought they were two separate apks.
Deleted hangout with root and installed gtalk. Worked like a charm. Thanks!!

I'm curious how did you get your gtalk to work? I deleted my hangout installed gtalk and it just keeps trying to sign in. Im running 4.3

 

[tnt533]

I'm curious how did you get your gtalk to work? I deleted my hangout installed gtalk and it just keeps trying to sign in. Im running 4.3

Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account

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I'm curious how did you get your gtalk to work? I deleted my hangout installed gtalk and it just keeps trying to sign in. Im running 4.3

Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account.

Edit: after a reboot the app now works fine.

 

[yugimonster]

Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account

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Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account.

Edit: after a reboot the app now works fine.

Are you running on 4.3 or 4.4?

 

[ms.journie]

Are you running on 4.3 or 4.4?

I'm running 4.3

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Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account

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Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account.

Edit: after a reboot the app now works fine.

What is slideloading an apk? Does that mean you moved it to your system apps? If so, I've already done that and restarted my phone and still no luck. :crying:

 

[xakou]

Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account

i have the same problem.....
Google Talk trying to login...... but nothing....

My phone is Galaxy S2 with 4.3.1

 

[TheArtiszan]

I am having the same problem
I used root explorer to remove hangouts
copy in talk and set permissions
reboot to recovery
wipe dalvik and cache
reboot
still just gets stuck spinning.

 

[guifort]

Hello,

Same issue for me with 4.3 or 4.4 but after an upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 (OTA) and reflash Talk.apk from recovery it's work. (With 4.3 not 4.4) Strange ?

I think if I wipe device I can't login to talk.

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Hello,

Same issue for me with 4.3 or 4.4 but after an upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 (OTA) and reflash Talk.apk from recovery it's work. (With 4.3 not 4.4) Strange ?

I think if I wipe device I can't login to talk.

 

[brpqzme]

Is talk still working in 4.3 for anyone? Mine's stopped signing in - maybe Google's disabled it?

 

[VengefulAncient]

Is talk still working in 4.3 for anyone? Mine's stopped signing in - maybe Google's disabled it?

Aha, so I am not alone! Yes, Talk stopped signing in for me in 4.3 (Cyanogenmod 10.2) a couple of days ago and now won't sign in in 4.4 (CM 11) either. However, it DOES work on my tablet (4.2/CM 10.1.2).

 

[xnifex]

add me to the list of people it stopped working for. running 4.4.2 on nexus 4/7 & it just spins

 

[KiretoX]

Same problem with SGS3 with 4.3. Deleted hangouts, had hard time to install talk back... but now i have it (4.2.2 version) it's not going to sign in at all. Going the xabber way, I guess.

 

[diamondcanopy]

Looks like they are somehow blocking Talk sign in on purpose. What a bad move, totally speechless.

In the mean time, does anyone have any jabber client recommendations?

I can't seem to find one that actually syncs conversations between desktop and phone. The only other features that mattered to me are being able to see status of other people, and being able to set myself to invisible. IM+ seems to be pretty close, but as far as I can tell you cannot sync conversations between devices

 

[diamondcanopy]

Ok--I'm just going to bump this because the Xabber solution is not really a solution at all. Talk had the critical function that you could move between devices and the conversations would be synced between them. As far as I can tell no Jabber client can do this (please, please let me know if I'm overlooking an app here). Right now I am using both Hangouts and Xabber so that I can make sure to have the full conversation (using Hangouts) as well as determine if someone is idle/away (using Xabber). I do miss being able to go invisible... Sometimes you want to be able to chat with one person (or two, even) without being interrupted by others, ya know?

I would be totally willing to tolerate the abysmal UI of hangouts if I could just have this basically functionality back. Anyone have any new ideas on this?

 

[VengefulAncient]

Looks like they are somehow blocking Talk sign in on purpose. What a bad move, totally speechless.

This is where it gets interesting. I have CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) running on my Samsung Galaxy Tab and luckily, Talk still works there. Hangouts is still unusable: it's the ONLY app on my SGS that's laggy (apart from Skype) and doesn't show me as online (green indicator). It would be nice to find out which part of 4.3/4.4 blocks Talk from signing in and remove that code. Google can cry us a river about "innovation", I just want Talk back! Does anyone know a way to investigate an Android app's running process more closely similar to how one would do it on Ubuntu/Debian (look at log files, strace, etc.) so we can locate the roadblock?

 

[diamondcanopy]

This is where it gets interesting. I have CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) running on my Samsung Galaxy Tab and luckily, Talk still works there. Hangouts is still unusable: it's the ONLY app on my SGS that's laggy (apart from Skype) and doesn't show me as online (green indicator). It would be nice to find out which part of 4.3/4.4 blocks Talk from signing in and remove that code. Google can cry us a river about "innovation", I just want Talk back! Does anyone know a way to investigate an Android app's running process more closely similar to how one would do it on Ubuntu/Debian (look at log files, strace, etc.) so we can locate the roadblock?

Yeah, it seems like there must be some way to do this. Unfortunately I wouldn't even know where to start.

 

[guaycuru]

Yes, same here, running 4.3, removed hangouts, but Talk keeps trying to sign in without success...

 

[guaycuru]

Ok so I got GTalk to sign in on my Android 4.3.
Here are all the steps I did, and I have no idea which ones are really necessary:

1) Removed Hangouts.apk from system/app and data/app, and removed gms core from system/app
2) Flashed gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip entirely (without removing anything)
3) Uninstalled all updates of Google Play Store and Google Play Services, and disabled auto update on Google Play Store
4) Tried to sign in -> no success
5) Updated gtalks to hangouts using play store
6) Signed into Hangouts, then signed out
7) Uninstalled updates to hangouts, so it reverted back to GTalk
8) Tried to sign in on GTalk and it worked!

Hope it helps someone else!

 

[conypaul]

Talk will not Sig in

Ok so I got GTalk to sign in on my Android 4.3.
Here are all the steps I did, and I have no idea which ones are really necessary:

1) Removed Hangouts.apk from system/app and data/app, and removed gms core from system/app
2) Flashed gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip entirely (without removing anything)
3) Uninstalled all updates of Google Play Store and Google Play Services, and disabled auto update on Google Play Store
4) Tried to sign in -> no success
5) Updated gtalks to hangouts using play store
6) Signed into Hangouts, then signed out
7) Uninstalled updates to hangouts, so it reverted back to GTalk
8) Tried to sign in on GTalk and it worked!

Hope it helps someone else!

NOT WORKING FOR ME :-/ on Note 3

Any other Solution ?
Best regards

 

[pamma83]

Ok so I got GTalk to sign in on my Android 4.3.
Here are all the steps I did, and I have no idea which ones are really necessary:

1) Removed Hangouts.apk from system/app and data/app, and removed gms core from system/app
2) Flashed gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip entirely (without removing anything)
3) Uninstalled all updates of Google Play Store and Google Play Services, and disabled auto update on Google Play Store
4) Tried to sign in -> no success
5) Updated gtalks to hangouts using play store
6) Signed into Hangouts, then signed out
7) Uninstalled updates to hangouts, so it reverted back to GTalk
8) Tried to sign in on GTalk and it worked!

Hope it helps someone else!

how do you flash the gapps?

 

[guaycuru]

how do you flash the gapps?

Well, you have to have a custom recover (like phillz), then you place the gapps zip file on the root of your sdcard, boot into recovery, and access the option "flash zip"...