android port to lumia ? or am i crazy

Should there be the possibility to run android on the lumia ?

  • yes - would be nice

    Votes: 100 45.5%
  • no - WP7 FTW

    Votes: 50 22.7%
  • Would be freaking awesome !!

    Votes: 83 37.7%
  • no i am homosexual

    Votes: 13 5.9%

  • Total voters
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Quintenn

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hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ? :p

because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone :)

i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android :)

anywayz , have fun with your phone !

and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here :)

grtz
 
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dannejanne

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It will never happen. Two completely different systems. I'm coming from Android and I for one would not want to ruin this phone with putting Android on it. I find WP7 so much more modern and refreshing.

I do not miss force closes nor lag.

I'm not negative to the possibility. I'm just sure it's not possible.
 
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darks1der

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Hi,

I don't think it will happen. Due to there not being that many developers for the lumia. I also thing most of the hardware could be used in android, Seeing as the HTC Desire S and the Sony Xperia Arc use the MSM8255 Snapdragon(but i could be wrong, I have only really started developing).

I just dont see any real advantage of running Android on the Lumia. It is already a great device. I could only see thing going downhill if you did. Your device would have alot of lag plus the lumia only has 512mb of ram. And everybody that has used android will tell you 512mb of ram is sufficiant but not enough to run smoothly or run any intense apps.
 

dr1337

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Mar 27, 2010
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You could, but you'd have to ask Dark Forces Team and Cotulla to release either a port of MAGLDR or the source to it to modify the chain boot loader.
 

scbond

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Something I'd love to see but doubt we will ever see. I personally just got a Lumia 800 and although it's a nice phone the software lapses too much and in too many places so back to Android I go...even if it is the newer Android which is skinned over and too customised!
 

whitealien

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1. You are crazy.
2. People always want what they can't get.

Technically it is possible. We have already seen examples of porting Android to older WM devices, like HTC HD2, HTC Touch Cruise, but it involves a lot of work and knowledge in system hacking.
Once you have cracked bootloader you can boot whatever you want. All you need to do is to find a device with the same chipset already running Android and port it over. Of course there will be many driver problems like non working, BT, WiFi, camera etc, but hey, what did you expect.

I bet that there is the same question in Nexus forums - How can we port WP7 to Galaxy Nexus :D
 

sHaHiN786

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damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..:D
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ? :p

because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone :)

i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android :)

anywayz , have fun with your phone !

and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here :)

grtz
You're both crazy, why didn't you just go Android? Strange people?:confused:
 

_Madmatt

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Why the hell would you want freakin' Android to run on a WP like this?? You're crazy, that's clear ;)
Android only has negative sides, WP is refreshing and smooth. I don't see ANY reason why you would want Android to mess up this beatiful phone.

Okay, I'm an Android hater, that's clear, but let me point it out:
  • Android is a copy of iOS (it's just boring)
  • It lags all the way
  • You need a nuclear power plant to keep it running for 1 day
  • The user experience is not consistent on all devices (not even with the same OEM!!)
  • Updates? Yes, if you do it all yourself
  • Open? Oh, thank you for your openness Android, and the malware...

I can go on if you'd like, but I think it's clear why I don't see this as a good idea...
 
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jbbandos

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Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
 
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_Madmatt

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Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
 

dannejanne

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Android and WP7 are two completely different beasts. No point in comparing them it's all about personal preference.

I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.

Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.

The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up. Even ICS won't fix this fully with its hardware acceleration. This is a area where Google has failed. Giving a smooth user experience. Both iPhone and WP7 has this and understand its importance but Android can't unless they rebuild it from the ground which I don't think will ever happen.
 

whitealien

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Completely agree with ^^

I was active Android ROM builder, tester, themer etc for more than 2 years., but I think I just got tired of endless battle with force closes and laags. The biggest problem with android is that it does not run on native code but on interpreted layer dalvikvm. You can try as hard as you want, but you will always need double horse power for the same tasks on other platforms.

That's also explains why WP7 is perfectly smooth with x2 less CPU and RAM while latest Google flagship with nearly desktop PC power suffers laagspikes here and there. While those small laag spikes are less visible on smartphones things are just getting worse with tablets. Today there is no tablet running Android which can render UI transitions with 60fps.

You can read a blog from ex Google employee about that.

How about some Android graphics true facts?
 
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norocel

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I agree with you guys,after using android from G1,htc hero,desire S,nexus one,sg1 and 2,galaxy nexus,lg optimus black and apple 4 and 3gs with all the cusotm roms and modifications none of them stand above wp7 smoothness. I can say i never had a lag on my phone ever,where android and ios would lag here and there. Again e-mail aplication is just a joy to use,and all the animation how they smooth transit...it never stops to impress me. Ofcourse it has some shortcomings but definatelly will get better,especially with nokia's help.Aplication wise,well i don't use that many apps but the one i used definatelly looked better than android and apple,it's like the have more soul and not look so dull and borring.
At first i did not like the idea Nokia refused android but now i see that they done the right decision,i see it no better.
 

BlitterTwisted

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I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.

Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.

The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up.
Well said. I had got used to the lag and didn't realise how bad it was until I got the Lumia.

I got sick of flashing ROMS too. CM7 was nice and stable, but when ICS roms came out I got sucked in. The gapps are all facelifted and are a lot nicer than Gingerbread. But then the ICS roms all have their issues and it just gets annoying.