Andromeda/Substratum support?

blkghost22

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Andromeda and substratum themes does not work.. I am putting this thread up to see if anyone knows a work around or able to contact the devs to get support.
 

roaduardo

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So it is confirmed to be working? The post above you and the app developer states root is required on the S10 models to get swift installer to work.
Damn. I'm testing this on my One UI Note 9. I didn't realize Samsung has been selectively blocking support on different models like this. Shoot. Un-rooted S9, S9+ and Note 9 on Pie is supported. Why the heck is Samsung being this way with their other phones??
 

blkghost22

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So it is confirmed to be working? The post above you and the app developer states root is required on the S10 models to get swift installer to work.
Root is required at the moment... but the snapdragon does notbuave root... til then its unusable (i may be wrong about not having root) have not seen any news about root yet
 

jshamlet

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Damn. I'm testing this on my One UI Note 9. I didn't realize Samsung has been selectively blocking support on different models like this. Shoot. Un-rooted S9, S9+ and Note 9 on Pie is supported. Why the heck is Samsung being this way with their other phones??
Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.

I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
 

roaduardo

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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.

I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
What absolute BS.
 

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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.

I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
I thought they went back on that demo thing? I remember reading when the pie beat came out that they were making free themes a trial only but changed it back to having completely free ones. I might be wrong though, however I'm using a free theme as we speak and it didnt say anything about a trial or anything.
 

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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.

I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
Once we have root none of this will be an issue ...
 

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I thought they went back on that demo thing? I remember reading when the pie beat came out that they were making free themes a trial only but changed it back to having completely free ones. I might be wrong though, however I'm using a free theme as we speak and it didnt say anything about a trial or anything.
I looked it up, and yes, it seems Samsung backed off of the demo/time trial thing for free themes. So, unless they do it again in the future, my bad.

Of course, the fact that you can only get themes/fonts/etc. through the Galaxy App store is ridiculous, but at least that particular bit of ridiculousness got walked back.
 

roaduardo

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Man... I'm not even asking for much when it comes to custom theming. I just want a black theme for WhatsApp, Twitter, IG and Outlook on my phone. The rest of the system UI is fine with what Samsung gives us in night/dark mode.

I'm wondering I use an app extractor that I can use that to rip the Swift-customized apps on my Note 9 and install them on my S10e the Swift stuff will still be on the APKs?
 

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Man... I'm not even asking for much when it comes to custom theming. I just want a black theme for WhatsApp, Twitter, IG and Outlook on my phone. The rest of the system UI is fine with what Samsung gives us in night/dark mode.

I'm wondering I use an app extractor that I can use that to rip the Swift-customized apps on my Note 9 and install them on my S10e the Swift stuff will still be on the APKs?
Same
 

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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.

I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
Gvien the popularity of Substratum, Swift, and Andromeda, I'd work with them to get them on the Galaxy Store if I were Samsung. But what do I know, I'm just a guy and not a multi-billion dollar company.

If they want people to use their store, give people a reason to use it. I've been using the Galaxy Themes in conjunction with Substratum ever since I first learned about it since there's overlap that is beneficial for both.
 
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Gvien the popularity of Substratum, Swift, and Andromeda, I'd work with them to get them on the Galaxy Store if I were Samsung. But what do I know, I'm just a guy and not a multi-billion dollar company.

If they want people to use their store, give people a reason to use it. I've been using the Galaxy Themes in conjunction with Substratum ever since I first learned about it since there's overlap that is beneficial for both.
I've been doing the same.
However, I'm not 100% sure this was Samsung's fault. Google was the one who purposefully neutered rootless Substratum on Pie. They went so far as in the March 2018 security update retroactively try to break it on Oreo as well. The fact that Samsung left it intact when they released Pie for the S9 probably irritated Google enough for them to push Samsung into blocking it.

The idea of having Substratum and its themes move to the Galaxy Store is a great one, but I'm not sure Google would like that and Samsung seems to have moved pass the time when they didn't care about what Google thought. I mean...Samsung itself admitted (in the Good Lock update announcement) that the ruining of the split-screen on Android Pie was the result of a demand from Google. I wouldn't be surprised is blocking Substratum on rootless phones was also a result of Google's meddling.

Question is: why? Is Google actually building their own version of Substratum into Android Q? Twitter's CEO, when talking about moving their night mode from blue to black, mentioned his wish to have a system wide theme that would change the Twitter app as well. This would be the ideal scenario. Third party devs would have the work of theming their apps lifted from them and outsourced to someone else, Google would "secure" the OMS engine for public use and we would finally get what we've been asking for years (it would also put an end to the debate about what is a good and a bad Dark Theme).

If only I believed Google ever had the interest of its users at heart...
 
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