Annoyances and bugs in Xperia X2 after last upgrade

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hertell

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I kept up a list of issues on the Esato.com forums that really pissed me off with the original X2 with the factory defaults. Now i have installed the new MR1 update, and things got even WORSE!

I have now created a Facebook-group for us unhappy Experia X2 users. Please join it here if you feel so: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110270035673269
I can't find enough of swear-words and curses how much this pisses me off, so I start to keep a new list on this forum.

  • The phone boots slowly. The update did not decrease boot-time. Still it's like watching paint dry! This sucks especially when i have to reboot the phone almost every hour..!
  • Crashes, crashes, crashes. As soon as the screen get's turned off (powersave etc), the chances of the X2 to die complete is more or less 100%. It has now crashed within the last 2 hours 5 times. Calling the phone, it rings 2 seconds, then it dies totally! Do I have to tell more? This SUCKS!
  • PIN-code. First thing after startup, i enter the secuity-pin. After this, i get a status-screen with info about email, wlan-status etc. Where the f*ck is the PIN-code screen?? I have to klick on Phone-button to get the PIN-screen in front of me! Being busy with work, you can't sit and wait for this screen to appear. Very often i realize 15minutes later that i still have not entered my PIN-code!
  • SIM-Contacts. I have contacts backed up on my simcard. I have used a tool to hide these, but still some alls/screens display these contacts. It's a STUPID limitation of Windows Mobile that I hate! Please fix this stupidity
  • Poking around the phone, reading forums and tips, i installed the spb 3.5.2 package with the panel-launcer. removed other spb-appd etc. At some point i removed almost all spb-apps, and i noticed that the speed of the phone seemed to be extremely fast. It looks to me that the SPB-apps somehow waste the phone's memory and resources even if they are not in use. I think that one of the big resource-eater is all the SPB-packages. They are nice eyecandy, but they are definitively not optimized for the Xperia X2. I think that SonyEricsson has to force SPB Software to optimize their bloated code!!
  • searching and dialing contacts is just a PITA! (Pain In The Ass). Cumsy user-interface, and not all functioning. The lag after picking the contacts number makes me often belive that i have not succeeded in hitting the number to call.. This results that when the phone finally figures out that i punched a number to call, in the next screen it get's hanged up, cause it registers a click on the red hangup-bar..!

I will update some more issues when i get some more time!

Cu!

René
 
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hertell

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Well, your advice are definitively meant for people concidering buying the phone now. I already bought it when it was released in sweden, and there where no updated reviews available at that time

The hardware and specs should be enough, but i did not think that Sony Ericsson could mess up the xperia x2 this bad!

Next week i'm going to bring the phone to the sony ericsson service, and if they can't fix the phones stability then I'm concidering bringing the phone back to the shop where i bought it from, and demanding my money back! Seriously!

An expensive businessphone that does not work as expected, is not worth ****!
 

anothadave

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cant say i noticed it booting any slower after the mr1 update. or any extra crashes.. try removing anything you definately dont need. panels and software.

the main annoyance i now notice is the keyboard lag in the sms application. was fine before!
 

hertell

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My phone is with all original apps, and nothing is added or removed. Crashing and hanging constantly. I'm now having my business-number ringing in the great k800i. Now i can be sure that i wont miss any calls...

I did not manage to bring my phone to the SE-service centre on friday, and upcoming week i wont have the possibility to do it either, so i have to wait one week before i can drop the phone for checkup..
 

hertell

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New solution??

I have now tested to turn off the advanced battery option where the phone switches off the screen after eg. 2 minutes, and put it to go into standby in 40 seconds. This has not crashed the phone at all during the last 2 hours!

I'll tell some more if the phone is still alive tomorrow morning!
 

sx1-doc

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i got random freeze and slowness on my x1, my old asus p525 and a lot of WM pda,

AND 99% was the problem a corrupted sd card (so i change or formated the card) and all my problems were gone.
hope that will help
 

doministry

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i got random freeze and slowness on my x1, my old asus p525 and a lot of WM pda,

AND 99% was the problem a corrupted sd card (so i change or formated the card) and all my problems were gone.
hope that will help

Well OK, these things happen too.
However there's a specific pattern when these freezes appear.
So it doesn't look like that really.

The amount of users experiencing IDENTICAL issues
is significant. I mean I didn't find a person
who using extensively X2 would not find all of the descibed problems.

So sorry, I don't think we all have memory card problems collectively :D
 

ring-bearer

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Here's my theory, for what it's worth:
- Because SE had the X1 made by HTC, they were assisted 95% by HTC in creating WM software that worked
- For some crazy reason, they switched to a manufacturer that, to my knowledge, does not make WM phones. Now we have SE, a company that knows very little about WM, + Foxconn, a company that knows very little about WM. Not a good combo.
- Now SE is on it's own to make the software work. That is, there are 3 college grad Sony software engineers sitting in cubicles trying to translate a copy of "Visual Studio for Dummies" into Japanese. Good luck.

If SE had stuck with HTC, the X2 could have basically been the HD2 slide, and it would have been the best smartphone on the market. It's easy to second-guess, but their leadership does not look good.
 

anothadave

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yes but if HTC had made the X2 then it would of fallen apart by now lol. im glad sony ditched them. anyway, sony wrote the software for the X1 not HTC.. so it wouldnt of made much difference if they had used HTC again. even with its bugs, the X2 is still far more stable than the X1 in most aspects, especially the phone side of things.
 

doministry

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yes but if HTC had made the X2 then it would of fallen apart by now lol. im glad sony ditched them. anyway, sony wrote the software for the X1 not HTC.. so it wouldnt of made much difference if they had used HTC again. even with its bugs, the X2 is still far more stable than the X1 in most aspects, especially the phone side of things.

Excuse me but what are you talking about?

X2 is the only device I had which can freeze 10 times in 10 minutes.
X1 freezed maybe 10 times in total through 17 months.
And always BECAUSE of something.

I agree - it's better HTC did not manufacture this,

however on the software side: it would WORK!
 

cristidotro

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I hope you guys receive your Custom roms soon. Maybe chefs will iron all the bad stuff from SE.
X2 seems to be a nice looking brick right now. I'll buy it after custom ROMs appear.
But guys, look at the good part, it doesn't have SOD issue :p.
 

Biges

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I bet the problem with X2 is that S-E decided to make too many phones with different systems.

"Let's make Windows Mobile smartphones! And Symbian phones! And Android phones! And continue to make dumbphones*! Well... we also have to watch our costs, so let's not hire additional engineers and testers, let our great marketing make for out lousy software development!"

*Which work the most flawlessly.
 

ring-bearer

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I bet the problem with X2 is that S-E decided to make too many phones with different systems.

"Let's make Windows Mobile smartphones! And Symbian phones! And Android phones! And continue to make dumbphones*! Well... we also have to watch our costs, so let's not hire additional engineers and testers, let our great marketing make for out lousy software development!"

*Which work the most flawlessly.

Yup, exactly right. Specialization is the key to quality nowadays.
 

bob2k4

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I know this is not relevant to the post, but does anyone has facebook panel working on the X2 after MR1? also does anyone have a copy of the CNN Panel they could send me?
 

doministry

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I know this is not relevant to the post, but does anyone has facebook panel working on the X2 after MR1? also does anyone have a copy of the CNN Panel they could send me?

Nope. I don't have the CNN....
And I think - as was posted on SE Blogs - WM 6.5.2
has some changes inside which probably disable those Panels.

It's also ridiculous each time we get LESS Panels,
not more!

I remember the panels competition some time ago
but never saw the awarded ones available!