Another bad camera comparison

[PuffDaddy_d]

Poor Sony, they just can't get it right. They place dead last on nearly every shot.

https://youtu.be/Xsvxz2XBXSc

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[doministry]

Well my Z5 performs completely differently in such conditions.
This comparison doesn't mean much.

 

[PuffDaddy_d]

Well my Z5 performs completely differently in such conditions.
This comparison doesn't mean much.

Well, yes, you are correct, a different phone does perform differently... but that's not the point and your Z5 has nothing to do with the topic. We're comparing current flagship camera performance.

Here's some daytime and video comparisons as well:

Day Time Comparsions

Video (huge fail when phone overheats and shuts down)

I'm a big fan of the Z series sony phones. It's a shame the X series can't seem to live up to their reputation.

 

[doministry]

Well, yes, you are correct, a different phone does perform differently... but that's not the point and your Z5 has nothing to do with the topic. We're comparing current flagship camera performance.

Here's some daytime and video comparisons as well:

Day Time Comparsions

Video (huge fail when phone overheats and shuts down)

I'm a big fan of the Z series sony phones. It's a shame the X series can't seem to live up to their reputation.

Well my post has alot to do with the topic.
Since X/X Performance performs better than Z5.

I mean the settings were strange or the mode, I don't know.
The Sony in lowlight can do as good as S7.

 

[MGSBigBoss]

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results


Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.

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[dillalade]

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results


Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.

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Slam dunk
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[MGSBigBoss]

And similarly last year the z5 was also rated best camera in a smartphone

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[PuffDaddy_d]

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results


Top rated mobile camera again. Enough said.

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Yes, we all know that DXO manages to be the only source that gives Sony phones high scores. They are able to set up each shot in a manner that allows for objective analysis of each scene. However, their results are rarely representative of what people get on point and shoot situations. Check any YouTube comparison and you'll see that Sony photos just don't look as good when placed next to the leading competition. It's not a trick, it's not just a single review, it's a trend.

But why do I need to convince you. You saw the videos, right? The evidence is all there. The Sony simply underperformed and the overheating issue is consistent with other reviewers well. It's a shame though because we need Sony to succeed. They make great phones and I want another compact flagship some day.

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[MGSBigBoss]

Yes, we all know that DXO manages to be the only source that gives Sony phones high scores. They are able to set up each shot in a manner that allows for objective analysis of each scene. However, their results are rarely representative of what people get on point and shoot situations. Check any YouTube comparison and you'll see that Sony photos just don't look as good when placed next to the leading competition. It's not a trick, it's not just a single review, it's a trend.

But why do I need to convince you. You saw the videos, right? The evidence is all there. The Sony simply underperformed and the overheating issue is consistent with other reviewers well. It's a shame though because we need Sony to succeed. They make great phones and I want another compact flagship some day.

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Well now you are heavily exaggerating that it's the only review. As others have posted positive reviews as well. And dxo also specializes in camera reviews. I'd trust their review more so than others for camera.

I have yet to experience overheating in any regular use.

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[PuffDaddy_d]

Well now you are heavily exaggerating that it's the only review. As others have posted positive reviews as well. And dxo also specializes in camera reviews. I'd trust their review more so than others for camera.

I have yet to experience overheating in any regular use.

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I trust DXO to know more about what makes a photo technically accurate, but the average person only cares about what looks good to them. A shot that scores well technically may look dull and lifeless to the average person. So many people prefer to compare cameras against each other rather than against some checklists. Regardless of how well it scores technically, ask yourself, does the Sony phone look better than the competition in any of the videos above? The answer should be a clear, "no".

On another note, I should clarify that the overheating isn't a result of daily usage, but of recording video. For some reason, the X performance shuts down when recording video. I might forgive it if it was recording 4k resolution (as it did with my z3c), but there's no excuse for a brand new flagship to be shutting down on 1080p. And it didn't just happen in the link above, there's an entire YouTube video dedicated to timing how long each Sony phone takes to overheat and shut down.

https://youtu.be/TG6oin7x8Rs



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[MGSBigBoss]

If we are talking average person then they won't see differences in clarity. If the experts of cameras say it's the best camera I believe them. Sonys phone boots the camera faster than the others at <.6 seconds. Higher resolution. And easier to use with superior auto and I don't have to change settings. Have you yourself experienced over heating?

Here's another review that showed at top of Google results
http://www.manilashaker.com/sony-xp...e-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-vs-oneplus-3-camera-review/

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[Bialynia]

The XP camera is fantastic, no other words to describe it. It's night and day compared to my z5c. The reviews I've read sometimes claim a photo that to me is clearly worse is the "winner", so without a clear methodology the reviews are subjective.

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[dillalade]

If you watch videos and take there showcase as Bible then your always losing.

Living in comparisons (grass is always greener) will always give you a negative result.

For me the camera is absolutely fandabydosey.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6e46LKf3A75bm9Gd1VxMU13NVU

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[PuffDaddy_d]

If you watch videos and take there showcase as Bible then your always losing.

Living in comparisons (grass is always greener) will always give you a negative result.

For me the camera is absolutely fandabydosey.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6e46LKf3A75bm9Gd1VxMU13NVU

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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you mean that we'll always be disappointed by comparing to other phones because the grass always seems greener on the other side, then I have to disagree. We're disappointed because the grass really is greener. Its not as subjective as you make it seem.

If the XP looks worse in a side by side comparison, then that means it looks worse. The other phones looked better in most shots. What's the argument? Are you saying the XP somehow looked better from your perspective? This thread isn't about our personal experiences with the phone. It's about how the comparison shows the XP to under-perform when compared directly to other phones taking the same shots at the same time.

Once again, where is the argument here?

 

[dillalade]

I'm saying make your own judgement rather then take those comparisons as Bible.

I didn't hear anywhere in video where he states what setting he used for the Sony. It's not a full blown conclusion in that specific video in my opinion.

Regardless, I'm stating the camera is very good. But in your eyes it's never going to be. 2nd hand tests/judgements don't really cut it in my opinion.

Above all I take your point, there perhaps is some validity in your video link, however I would ask you perform a full blown side by side and see if the XP really falls drastically short when comparing with other devices.

Didn't come here to lay down an argument. Just chime in with my opinion.


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[MGSBigBoss]

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-x-performance-review-01450018/

Another great and fair review. To say there's only one source is ridiculous when I've shown time and time again the device is well worth the money.

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[PuffDaddy_d]

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-x-performance-review-01450018/

Another great and fair review. To say there's only one source is ridiculous when I've shown time and time again the device is well worth the money.

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Sigh... Yes, another camera review that takes a few photos and says they look good. No one here doubts that a flagship phone can take good pictures. The site you link does not do a side by side comparison which is what this thread is about. Side by side, Sony doesn't seem to keep up with the competition.

It's funny, in the Z3 and Z5 sections, most members actually reached that same conclusion on there own regarding those respective devices. Why is this section so sensitive?

Instead of arguing about this, I was hoping people would actually comment on the comparison.

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[EQ2000]

The Xperia Perfomance X camera pretty much destroys the competition. Great colors, well outlined detail without resorting to abuse of post-processing like the generally bad S7 photos and great exposure. The XXP at ISO 3200 beats the S7 at ISO 1250 like a champ. Z1+ line already outperformed S7 in most areas but XXP takes it to a new level. Pretty much a generational leap. Very impressed!

 

[PuffDaddy_d]

The Xperia Perfomance X camera pretty much destroys the competition. Great colors, well outlined detail without resorting to abuse of post-processing like the generally bad S7 photos and great exposure. The XXP at ISO 3200 beats the S7 at ISO 1250 like a champ. Z1+ line already outperformed S7 in most areas but XXP takes it to a new level. Pretty much a generational leap. Very impressed!

Is that the results you saw in this comparison video?

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[EQ2000]

Is that the results you saw in this comparison video?

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That is the real life results I saw. Beats a 1080p 8Mbit/s encoded Youtube video of medium encoding quality by miles.