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Seems like the Vivo X Fold is going to give Samsung competition for the Fold 4.

If I thought I could get the Vivo X Fold to work on my US Carrier - I would give it a shot. Perhaps by the time the Fold 4 is introduced, it might be available in the US and that might push me towards it.

Anyone else here considering getting a Vivo X Fold?
 

domineus

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Seems like the Vivo X Fold is going to give Samsung competition for the Fold 4.

If I thought I could get the Vivo X Fold to work on my US Carrier - I would give it a shot. Perhaps by the time the Fold 4 is introduced, it might be available in the US and that might push me towards it.

Anyone else here considering getting a Vivo X Fold?

I am looking to sell my fold 3 for the vivo x fold. It's really my ideal hardware. The fold 4 isn't going to really drastically change that much. I really don't want a thinner device I want a more usable front display. right now, that's not happening for the Fold 4. I doubt it'll be the ideal for the fold 5 either.

Having said that I am buying it very VERY soon. Also the Vivo X fold works on every US carrier 5g.

Every. Single. One
 
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Seems like the Vivo X Fold is going to give Samsung competition for the Fold 4.

If I thought I could get the Vivo X Fold to work on my US Carrier - I would give it a shot. Perhaps by the time the Fold 4 is introduced, it might be available in the US and that might push me towards it.

Anyone else here considering getting a Vivo X Fold?
Got mine yesterday.... Bootloader cannot be unlocked, no root available, and no XDA forum for the device, despite request for forum submitted a while ago.... Other than that hardware including screens is amazing - way better than my Samsung Galaxy Z Fold2. Once forum is created, development starts and we get bootloader unlocked - this will be true king of foldables
 

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Got a ZFold3 ,and going for the ZFold4 , mainly because of the software/customization/root , SPen support and DEX

But also because of the IPX8, and the side mounted fingerprint ( which I like so much )

That vivo X Fold has a nice hardware, but for me is 70/30 software/hardware TBH
 
Got a ZFold3 ,and going for the ZFold4 , mainly because of the software/customization/root , SPen support and DEX

But also because of the IPX8, and the side mounted fingerprint ( which I like so much )

That vivo X Fold has a nice hardware, but for me is 70/30 software/hardware TBH
youll probably be able to root the vivo x fold first, unless youre getting a Exynos (Lesser processor version) of the device.
 

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So device is in hand (it got delivered early) and these are my initial impressions:
  1. It's larger than the fold and that's evident on the cover screen. It actually feels like a phone rather than a cramped remote control
  2. It feels premium and while people complain it is heavier than the fold 3 I can't feel it that much. The weight is better distributed when the device is closed. Definitely the fold 3 feels lighter when it is open
  3. Materials are super premium. The vegan leather feels nice. But other parts of the device feel seamless as well. Definitely a premium device
  4. Fingerprint sensor is so fast. Day and night compared to the Pixel 6 Pro - actually Google should be ashamed.
  5. You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.
  6. Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).
  7. Camera is actually rather good. There's tons of configuration I haven't gone through in totality. But the photos are much closer than you realize. Which is to say on the main sensor Samsung and Vivo are neck and neck. But in zoom and other categories, X Fold demolishes Samsung
  8. Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
    1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
    2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
    3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
    4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
  9. Charging is fast. That is all. It's slightly above the 37 minute claim BUT it's very fast charging.
  10. The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.
  11. Dual SIM! I came from a US variant fold 3 which didn't have dual sim capabilities so seeing that in the x fold is a treat.
  12. Silence rocker! I see you Vivo - great idea.
  13. There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point
  14. There's something really satisfying about the tactile feel of the device and the opening and closing of the device. It's spectacular.
  15. Increasing the speed of animation in developer options are greyed out surprisingly. It is okay but such an odd choice especially since OEM unlocking isn't greyed out
Those are my immediate thoughts. My major annoyances are the lack of split keyboard from third party alternatives and at the moment a launcher. HOWEVER if the bootloader can be unlocked (and at least I see OEM unlock there...) we could have some very fascinating options with any luck

Edit
Googling yielded a ton of options. By default the font is rather big - decrease the font size and that's one huge pain point taken away. You can also have an app launcher too rather than the nano shortcuts that is on default.

Slowly getting through the os and finding it actually pleasing. There's some software concerns with third party apps but I would say this is SUPER EXCITING
 
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m_w_clarke

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So device is in hand (it got delivered early) and these are my initial impressions:
  1. It's larger than the fold and that's evident on the cover screen. It actually feels like a phone rather than a cramped remote control
  2. It feels premium and while people complain it is heavier than the fold 3 I can't feel it that much. The weight is better distributed when the device is closed. Definitely the fold 3 feels lighter when it is open
  3. Materials are super premium. The vegan leather feels nice. But other parts of the device feel seamless as well. Definitely a premium device
  4. Fingerprint sensor is so fast. Day and night compared to the Pixel 6 Pro - actually Google should be ashamed.
  5. You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.
  6. Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).
  7. Camera is actually rather good. There's tons of configuration I haven't gone through in totality. But the photos are much closer than you realize. Which is to say on the main sensor Samsung and Vivo are neck and neck. But in zoom and other categories, X Fold demolishes Samsung
  8. Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
    1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
    2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
    3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
    4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
  9. Charging is fast. That is all. It's slightly above the 37 minute claim BUT it's very fast charging.
  10. The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.
  11. Dual SIM! I came from a US variant fold 3 which didn't have dual sim capabilities so seeing that in the x fold is a treat.
  12. Silence rocker! I see you Vivo - great idea.
  13. There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point
  14. There's something really satisfying about the tactile feel of the device and the opening and closing of the device. It's spectacular.
  15. Increasing the speed of animation in developer options are greyed out surprisingly. It is okay but such an odd choice especially since OEM unlocking isn't greyed out
Those are my immediate thoughts. My major annoyances are the lack of split keyboard from third party alternatives and at the moment a launcher. HOWEVER if the bootloader can be unlocked (and at least I see OEM unlock there...) we could have some very fascinating options with any luck

Edit
Googling yielded a ton of options. By default the font is rather big - decrease the font size and that's one huge pain point taken away. You can also have an app launcher too rather than the nano shortcuts that is on default.

Slowly getting through the os and finding it actually pleasing. There's some software concerns with third party apps but I would say this is SUPER EXCITING
This is really insightful - thanks!
I saw videos on YouTube also showing "no crease". But, when I got my Fold3 the creases was hardly there as well. It tends to increase in size the more the device is used. I would be interested in to get update on this as your device ages.

But, thanks again for this.
 
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So device is in hand (it got delivered early) and these are my initial impressions:
  1. It's larger than the fold and that's evident on the cover screen. It actually feels like a phone rather than a cramped remote control
  2. It feels premium and while people complain it is heavier than the fold 3 I can't feel it that much. The weight is better distributed when the device is closed. Definitely the fold 3 feels lighter when it is open
  3. Materials are super premium. The vegan leather feels nice. But other parts of the device feel seamless as well. Definitely a premium device
  4. Fingerprint sensor is so fast. Day and night compared to the Pixel 6 Pro - actually Google should be ashamed.
  5. You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.
  6. Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).
  7. Camera is actually rather good. There's tons of configuration I haven't gone through in totality. But the photos are much closer than you realize. Which is to say on the main sensor Samsung and Vivo are neck and neck. But in zoom and other categories, X Fold demolishes Samsung
  8. Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
    1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
    2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
    3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
    4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
  9. Charging is fast. That is all. It's slightly above the 37 minute claim BUT it's very fast charging.
  10. The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.
  11. Dual SIM! I came from a US variant fold 3 which didn't have dual sim capabilities so seeing that in the x fold is a treat.
  12. Silence rocker! I see you Vivo - great idea.
  13. There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point
  14. There's something really satisfying about the tactile feel of the device and the opening and closing of the device. It's spectacular.
  15. Increasing the speed of animation in developer options are greyed out surprisingly. It is okay but such an odd choice especially since OEM unlocking isn't greyed out
Those are my immediate thoughts. My major annoyances are the lack of split keyboard from third party alternatives and at the moment a launcher. HOWEVER if the bootloader can be unlocked (and at least I see OEM unlock there...) we could have some very fascinating options with any luck

Edit
Googling yielded a ton of options. By default the font is rather big - decrease the font size and that's one huge pain point taken away. You can also have an app launcher too rather than the nano shortcuts that is on default.

Slowly getting through the os and finding it actually pleasing. There's some software concerns with third party apps but I would say this is SUPER EXCITING
On the Fold 3, I use SwiftKey and have it set to a split keyboard. I've been using SwiftKey for a super long time. Only thing is you can't have a different setup on the front screen, so it'll be split on the front, too. Not an issue for me since I don't really use the front screen except to respond to med reminders and start a new mode on my Apollo Neuro (anxiety device) and phone calls.
 
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On the Fold 3, I use SwiftKey and have it set to a split keyboard. I've been using SwiftKey for a super long time. Only thing is you can't have a different setup on the front screen, so it'll be split on the front, too. Not an issue for me since I don't really use the front screen except to respond to med reminders and start a new mode on my Apollo Neuro (anxiety device) and phone calls.

I'll definitely try that now and report back
This is really insightful - thanks!
I saw videos on YouTube also showing "no crease". But, when I got my Fold3 the creases was hardly there as well. It tends to increase in size the more the device is used. I would be interested in to get update on this as your device ages.

But, thanks again for this.
When I received my fold 3 day one I saw the crease. By day 3 it was a bit of an eye sore. And I rationalized it was a tradeoff due to the technical limitations available. However, it was something that bugged me. Immensely.

Having said that I see the construction of the hinge is a bit different almost taking their cues from oppo and Samsung to have a cohesive solution. More likely than not there will be another crease - it's just a matter of time. But one day is a bit too quick for me
 

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Regarding the crease, do you leave the phone (any foldable) closed or opened during the night?
I have found that leaving the device open during the night decreases the crease quite a lot.
Also, do the same while charging. The device heats up during charging and the plastic screen also heats up.
 
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    So device is in hand (it got delivered early) and these are my initial impressions:
    1. It's larger than the fold and that's evident on the cover screen. It actually feels like a phone rather than a cramped remote control
    2. It feels premium and while people complain it is heavier than the fold 3 I can't feel it that much. The weight is better distributed when the device is closed. Definitely the fold 3 feels lighter when it is open
    3. Materials are super premium. The vegan leather feels nice. But other parts of the device feel seamless as well. Definitely a premium device
    4. Fingerprint sensor is so fast. Day and night compared to the Pixel 6 Pro - actually Google should be ashamed.
    5. You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.
    6. Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).
    7. Camera is actually rather good. There's tons of configuration I haven't gone through in totality. But the photos are much closer than you realize. Which is to say on the main sensor Samsung and Vivo are neck and neck. But in zoom and other categories, X Fold demolishes Samsung
    8. Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
      1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
      2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
      3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
      4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
    9. Charging is fast. That is all. It's slightly above the 37 minute claim BUT it's very fast charging.
    10. The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.
    11. Dual SIM! I came from a US variant fold 3 which didn't have dual sim capabilities so seeing that in the x fold is a treat.
    12. Silence rocker! I see you Vivo - great idea.
    13. There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point
    14. There's something really satisfying about the tactile feel of the device and the opening and closing of the device. It's spectacular.
    15. Increasing the speed of animation in developer options are greyed out surprisingly. It is okay but such an odd choice especially since OEM unlocking isn't greyed out
    Those are my immediate thoughts. My major annoyances are the lack of split keyboard from third party alternatives and at the moment a launcher. HOWEVER if the bootloader can be unlocked (and at least I see OEM unlock there...) we could have some very fascinating options with any luck

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    Googling yielded a ton of options. By default the font is rather big - decrease the font size and that's one huge pain point taken away. You can also have an app launcher too rather than the nano shortcuts that is on default.

    Slowly getting through the os and finding it actually pleasing. There's some software concerns with third party apps but I would say this is SUPER EXCITING
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    Big update with my testing of the device so I'll go through my original list based on 72 hours with the x fold:

    You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.

    You can still enable OEM unlock. And there's a thread floating around to describe how to unlock the bootloader for other vivo flagship devices. Essentially Android's default fastboot won't work. But using the one in the below thread may work (untested). That said you lose the incredible fingerprint sensor. So that's whack!


    My hope is that once done (or whoever is brave enough) then some major development will occur.

    Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).

    Enable data if you haven't already. I didn't and I noticed I didn't have data. The data speeds matched what I was getting with my Samsung but I had to configure it that way. Which with Samsung it worked out of the box. Now because 3 sucks in my area (Scotland) it won't magically give me 5G. I'll test the telephone because the signal was weak. Technically the fault of 3 and not the fold.

    Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
    1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
    2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
    3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
    4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
    Some of this is wrong actually. Thanks to ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy swiftkey is rather fantastic. The vivo launcher also comes with an app drawer but it needs to be configured to do so. While vivo has a left screen, it isn't Google now (and that's expected of course). Software remains to be smooth as butter. I was able to update some settings to speed up animations in Developer Options so it is so perceptibly fast it boggles the mind. Samsung is slow in comparison.

    The translations are still pretty bad though. But again it's a Chinese rom. Also you can change the launcher but you have to register to vivo to do so. Really strange requirement but I typically run stock as there's no real launcher alternatives for foldables that replicate to the front screen as well as stock. If there were a google launcher port from 12L made for all devices I would give that a major go but I don't see that happening. Didn't happen for the fold 3 either...

    The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.

    Still hard to see the crease unless you tilt the device on axis.

    There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point

    You can remove the bloat through ADB. I highly recommend removing vivo.pem to really get notifications to work properly.

    All in all? This is a device that almost demands tinkering in order to get it the way you want to get it. Samsung did as well but again it is based on philosophy.
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