General Any current Fold 3 users considering the Vivo X Fold?

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Thanks for the help.. I went to the settings 5G was enabled, data roaming off. Changed to bearer to NR.. At the start all works ie data and LTE, but after a while I can only use data, when I try to make a call it ends immediately. I can send and receive mms.. Do you live in the US ? If so do you use ATT or T-Mobile ?
I am in the US and I'm on TMobile. Second idea. Change bearer back to Unspecified. And call ATT and have them whitelist the IMEI. They did that to me
 

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There is a big issue with the Vivo X Fold software. The screen is not stretched over camera hole in some apps. I have the full screen display option checked but somehow it still shows a super ugly white letter box around the front camera hole in landscape mode (pics below).
We use foldable phone in landscape mode a lot and this is a really pain to the eyes.
Anyone has a solution for this?
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DanZan6

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My experience with t mobile is perfect. I'm in orange county CA. The t mobile home office is here. So I would expect it would be, or else they would get roasted in all the tgif party's :)
 

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My experience with t mobile is perfect. I'm in orange county CA. The t mobile home office is here. So I would expect it would be, or else they would get roasted in all the tgif party's :)
Good to know! I just wanted to make sure that the phone supported all their bands and didn't have problems with call quality or data. I'm on Mint, but obviously it's just Tmobile.

Where did you get your unit? I'm looking for one with the global firmware. A lot of them I've found are with the domestic Chinese firmware.
 

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I bought it at "gizpro" in Hong Kong. Great buying experience

There is no global version. Gizpro put English on it. I put all the vivo bloat on the last screen and treated the phone as a normal global Android phone. All apps are google. Play store was already on the home screen.

It does take some fiddling around in the system. Particularly with the permissions and screen settings. My only issue is no notification dot on the google text and Gmail icons. I do get an audible alert.

I expect the software will eventually get upgrades.
 

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I bought it at "gizpro" in Hong Kong. Great buying experience

There is no global version. Gizpro put English on it. I put all the vivo bloat on the last screen and treated the phone as a normal global Android phone. All apps are google. Play store was already on the home screen.

It does take some fiddling around in the system. Particularly with the permissions and screen settings. My only issue is no notification dot on the google text and Gmail icons. I do get an audible alert.

I expect the software will eventually get upgrades.
Do you have wifi calling working with Tmobile? I found another thread with people having various problems (and trying to fix them), but they have the Chinese software. I'm wondering if you're having a different experience due to the global software.
 

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I have the Chinese version. There is no global version.

I haven't tried Wi-Fi calling yet
 

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I bought it at "gizpro" in Hong Kong. Great buying experience

There is no global version. Gizpro put English on it. I put all the vivo bloat on the last screen and treated the phone as a normal global Android phone. All apps are google. Play store was already on the home screen.

It does take some fiddling around in the system. Particularly with the permissions and screen settings. My only issue is no notification dot on the google text and Gmail icons. I do get an audible alert.

I expect the software will eventually get upgrades.
Does gizpro have an online presence or was it purchased in person? Can't seem to find a website for them but am familiar with giztop for imported devices.
 

DanZan6

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Giztop.com/vivo fold
Ah, sorry, you did say they put the english version on it, I misread.

I need the wifi calling for where I live. Let me know if you have a chance to give it a try.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I intended to say was that the phone is a Chinese version. However, giztop changed the language on the Chinese version phone to English. So that when I turned the phone on all of the home screen was in English, and all of the settings selections were in English. So I didn't have to go through Chinese language settings to find the language option setting.
 

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Do you have wifi calling working with Tmobile? I found another thread with people having various problems (and trying to fix them), but they have the Chinese software. I'm wondering if you're having a different experience due to the global software.
wifi calling worked on mine for both tmobile us and 3 uk too. It's been a really fantastic device but I won't lie. Bootloader unlocked it and now attempting root again so I can see what's out there. But yeah this device is special
 

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More curious about the Google Fold.
I love your Avatar ,i'm Deadpool ,fan I've been battling with mind numbing concrete pounding on ground is more productive search for ...Super Samsung Theme Deadpool Theme,(7.0.8.0) or newer if avail.for download
So far walls of nope and endless ads
Goog is coming up with fold Opo has one ? And Vivo has
one now !!!! Didnt nokia or Haweii also have a fold when fist Galaxy fold finaly. Came to us two years after oficial launch and for twice as much$$
So are the Oppo and Vivo &goog folds all at the trade your first born and you might get one for a monthes rent ona studio closet here in nor California?
 

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Goog is coming up with fold Opo has one ? And Vivo has
one now !!!! Didnt nokia or Haweii also have a fold when fist Galaxy fold finaly. Came to us two years after oficial launch and for twice as much$$
So are the Oppo and Vivo &goog folds all at the trade your first born and you might get one for a monthes rent ona studio closet here in nor California?
THANKS! I'm a cosplayer, and have a great Deadpool. It's hilarious to make fun of people, in a Deadpool appropriate way, and give them a laugh. The eyes can be switched out.
 

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wifi calling worked on mine for both tmobile us and 3 uk too. It's been a really fantastic device but I won't lie. Bootloader unlocked it and now attempting root again so I can see what's out there. But yeah this device is special
All network wifi hotspot or any connection through T -mobile is sketchy at best insanely frustrating and its (all phones .).expensive,if your able try adding :sprint 5 G Apn and Metro 5G Hipri Apn )try Swiching between till one works ,wifi calling works until first google Carier Services updates and instals little hidden network overide and throttle app comes standard seems to be standard o.p these days,at least here & ive been hearing the sam for allvover globe
reall wellll hidden and insidius
 

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wifi calling worked on mine for both tmobile us and 3 uk too. It's been a really fantastic device but I won't lie. Bootloader unlocked it and now attempting root again so I can see what's out there. But yeah this device is special
thank you! I'm waiting to see the Fold 4 announcement, but based on this I'm 90% sure I'm going to be going to the Vivo.
 

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    I love your Avatar ,i'm Deadpool ,fan I've been battling with mind numbing concrete pounding on ground is more productive search for ...Super Samsung Theme Deadpool Theme,(7.0.8.0) or newer if avail.for download
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    Goog is coming up with fold Opo has one ? And Vivo has
    one now !!!! Didnt nokia or Haweii also have a fold when fist Galaxy fold finaly. Came to us two years after oficial launch and for twice as much$$
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    I'm not sure if any software is gonna be as mature as Samsung's. Add to that the pen support is essential to me so probably no. I'm sticking to the Samsung folds for the time being
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    What are Vivo like for track record for software updates? One of the major draws for me for the Fold3 is the 3+ years of updates.
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    So device is in hand (it got delivered early) and these are my initial impressions:
    1. It's larger than the fold and that's evident on the cover screen. It actually feels like a phone rather than a cramped remote control
    2. It feels premium and while people complain it is heavier than the fold 3 I can't feel it that much. The weight is better distributed when the device is closed. Definitely the fold 3 feels lighter when it is open
    3. Materials are super premium. The vegan leather feels nice. But other parts of the device feel seamless as well. Definitely a premium device
    4. Fingerprint sensor is so fast. Day and night compared to the Pixel 6 Pro - actually Google should be ashamed.
    5. You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.
    6. Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).
    7. Camera is actually rather good. There's tons of configuration I haven't gone through in totality. But the photos are much closer than you realize. Which is to say on the main sensor Samsung and Vivo are neck and neck. But in zoom and other categories, X Fold demolishes Samsung
    8. Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
      1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
      2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
      3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
      4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
    9. Charging is fast. That is all. It's slightly above the 37 minute claim BUT it's very fast charging.
    10. The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.
    11. Dual SIM! I came from a US variant fold 3 which didn't have dual sim capabilities so seeing that in the x fold is a treat.
    12. Silence rocker! I see you Vivo - great idea.
    13. There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point
    14. There's something really satisfying about the tactile feel of the device and the opening and closing of the device. It's spectacular.
    15. Increasing the speed of animation in developer options are greyed out surprisingly. It is okay but such an odd choice especially since OEM unlocking isn't greyed out
    Those are my immediate thoughts. My major annoyances are the lack of split keyboard from third party alternatives and at the moment a launcher. HOWEVER if the bootloader can be unlocked (and at least I see OEM unlock there...) we could have some very fascinating options with any luck

    Edit
    Googling yielded a ton of options. By default the font is rather big - decrease the font size and that's one huge pain point taken away. You can also have an app launcher too rather than the nano shortcuts that is on default.

    Slowly getting through the os and finding it actually pleasing. There's some software concerns with third party apps but I would say this is SUPER EXCITING
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    Big update with my testing of the device so I'll go through my original list based on 72 hours with the x fold:

    You can OEM Unlock the X Fold! I found the option and it is enabled. Now whether or not it is actually enabled is anyone's guess but seeing the option there (and by proxy developer options) is rather great.

    You can still enable OEM unlock. And there's a thread floating around to describe how to unlock the bootloader for other vivo flagship devices. Essentially Android's default fastboot won't work. But using the one in the below thread may work (untested). That said you lose the incredible fingerprint sensor. So that's whack!


    My hope is that once done (or whoever is brave enough) then some major development will occur.

    Putting my sim in the device I received the error because I'm not in mainland china, 5g won't work. But I suspect strongly my 5g will work. Currently using UK sim (3).

    Enable data if you haven't already. I didn't and I noticed I didn't have data. The data speeds matched what I was getting with my Samsung but I had to configure it that way. Which with Samsung it worked out of the box. Now because 3 sucks in my area (Scotland) it won't magically give me 5G. I'll test the telephone because the signal was weak. Technically the fault of 3 and not the fold.

    Software. It's a lot to take in and absorb. Mainly the keyboard could use some work and the alternatives I haven't found a split keyboard so if anyone knows of one, provide a suggestion.
    1. You can also make the same argument for launchers available. Vivo stock launcher works, but there's a lot of swiping where you expect one action and you get a completely different action. Again it is probably due to using a chinese rom
    2. Similarly, there are some things that don't directly translate when language is set to english. It's an annoyance rather than a frustration but you get what you get. It's not a global rom
    3. Google Now feed I do miss. Again it's the muscle memory I was referring to in point 1
    4. Software is SMOOTH as butter. The fold isn't so smooth and that's an issue directly with Samsung based devices. Which is a shame.
    Some of this is wrong actually. Thanks to ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy swiftkey is rather fantastic. The vivo launcher also comes with an app drawer but it needs to be configured to do so. While vivo has a left screen, it isn't Google now (and that's expected of course). Software remains to be smooth as butter. I was able to update some settings to speed up animations in Developer Options so it is so perceptibly fast it boggles the mind. Samsung is slow in comparison.

    The translations are still pretty bad though. But again it's a Chinese rom. Also you can change the launcher but you have to register to vivo to do so. Really strange requirement but I typically run stock as there's no real launcher alternatives for foldables that replicate to the front screen as well as stock. If there were a google launcher port from 12L made for all devices I would give that a major go but I don't see that happening. Didn't happen for the fold 3 either...

    The crease you can't really see it versus the fold 3 you can see and feel the crease.

    Still hard to see the crease unless you tilt the device on axis.

    There's a lot of bloat on the device. There's really no way around it and it'll take time to remove the bloat. I haven't tested rooting the device (yet) but I probably will at some point

    You can remove the bloat through ADB. I highly recommend removing vivo.pem to really get notifications to work properly.

    All in all? This is a device that almost demands tinkering in order to get it the way you want to get it. Samsung did as well but again it is based on philosophy.
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