Question Anyone gotten the x40 yet, or consider getting it?

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memocatcher

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Just for Motorola to ditch that bugged phone after 2 weeks and throw a X50 on the market within 3-4 months? No thanks
 

ijuanp03

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I'd rather get the X30 Pro just because it has a cheaper price tag and better main camera.

For those saying software is worrisome, the answer is a big NO. I have bought basically all the flagship Motorola China phones and can confirm to have solid and consistent quarterly software updates.

Not to mention, Moto China software has an exclusive Moto Shield app where you can natively use app lock, pre-select auto start apps, remove background processing of individual apps and more.

Of course, only Moto owners of recent Moto phones will know. Tech reviewers are known for their hearsay and will only praise anything Samsung and Apple.
 

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It is an excellent mobile without a doubt, I love the fast charging, but the camera app is bad, and not to mention that it does not have android 13 (motox30) yet, ok maybe we just have to wait a bit.
 

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I'd rather get the X30 Pro just because it has a cheaper price tag and better main camera.

For those saying software is worrisome, the answer is a big NO. I have bought basically all the flagship Motorola China phones and can confirm to have solid and consistent quarterly software updates.

Not to mention, Moto China software has an exclusive Moto Shield app where you can natively use app lock, pre-select auto start apps, remove background processing of individual apps and more.

Of course, only Moto owners of recent Moto phones will know. Tech reviewers are known for their hearsay and will only praise anything Samsung and Apple.
Is the camera really better? I've seen here that people complain about focusing issues. Also I was checking the main sensor on the x40 and it seems to have the same one that Huawei p50 pro uses. And it did very good for Huawei. Granted it's not a new sensor but it should be between mid-hi tier
 

Killuminati91

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The camera app is garbage, really barebones. The focus issues have not been fixed on the x30 pro even with the newest update.
They may have implemented the sensor better in the x40, but if there are any bugs they will handle them the same way that they do with the x30 pro. They wont.
 

ijuanp03

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Is the camera really better? I've seen here that people complain about focusing issues. Also I was checking the main sensor on the x40 and it seems to have the same one that Huawei p50 pro uses. And it did very good for Huawei. Granted it's not a new sensor but it should be between mid-hi tier

There is NO focusing issues and it's quite the opposite. The tried and tested 50MP Omnivision dual pixel autofocus is really fast since it uses the full sensor for autofocus.

In fact, it is faster than my X30 Pro's 200MP phase detect auto focus. Take note that the x40's main camera sensor is the same exact sensor used in the Edge 30 Pro.
 

ijuanp03

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The camera app is garbage, really barebones. The focus issues have not been fixed on the x30 pro even with the newest update.
They may have implemented the sensor better in the x40, but if there are any bugs they will handle them the same way that they do with the x30 pro. They wont.

Again, the x30 Pro is using a less capable autofocus technology compared to the x40 (or even the old Edge 30 Pro).

What bugs are you saying? I have never encountered any bugs with the x30 Pro. Can you elaborate further?
 

Killuminati91

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Again, the x30 Pro is using a less capable autofocus technology compared to the x40 (or even the old Edge 30 Pro).

What bugs are you saying? I have never encountered any bugs with the x30 Pro. Can you elaborate further?

Either the focus uses technology from the 90s or it is quite simply still broken.
I am not gonna make more screen recordings since im ditching the phone - the issue is well documented in my earlier post, reddit and in Motorolas forums.
Just open your camera in a well lit room at night and introduce your hand to the lens a few times. Most times it wont focus, if it does it gets stuck. This problems expands to all light situation but is slightly better in daylight. And it only affects the main sensor.
 

ijuanp03

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Either the focus uses technology from the 90s or it is quite simply still broken.
I am not gonna make more screen recordings since im ditching the phone - the issue is well documented in my earlier post, reddit and in Motorolas forums.
Just open your camera in a well lit room at night and introduce your hand to the lens a few times. Most times it wont focus, if it does it gets stuck. This problems expands to all light situation but is slightly better in daylight. And it only affects the main sensor.

It's a hardware limitation of the phase-detect autofocus (200MP) vs the dual-pixel autofocus of the 50MP camera found in the Edge 30 Pro and the latest X40.

Phase-detect autofocus is basically found in all 108MP Samsung sensors (including the ones found in the latest S22 Ultra) and their 200MP sensor found in the Edge 30 Ultra.

That is also why Samsung puts a separate laser autofocus hardware to compensate the less-capable focusing tech of the main camera sensor.
 

phatfunk123

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I love it. So far the ONLY gripe I have is I have been unable to find a way to successfully pair and use my Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro with it - Seems to be a regional incompatibility. My Amazfit devices work fine with it, so I assume I will just have to start wearing a different watch and sell my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro, because I like the phone too much. For some background I've been using a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra for the past year.
 

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I love it. So far the ONLY gripe I have is I have been unable to find a way to successfully pair and use my Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro with it - Seems to be a regional incompatibility. My Amazfit devices work fine with it, so I assume I will just have to start wearing a different watch and sell my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro, because I like the phone too much. For some background I've been using a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra for the past year.
Oh wow, I'm impressed you like this more instead of the Samsung. What country are you from? Is the 5G working on yours?
 
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phatfunk123

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Oh wow, I'm impressed you like this more instead of the Samsung. What country are you from? Is the 5G working on yours?
I'm located in Central United States. I can attest, at least in my area, that AT&T works great and I also get 5G where available. I'm not located near any large metro areas so it mostly picks up 4G LTE, but it has picked up 5G on a handful of occasions. I was a little nervous about buying a phone with no pre-installed Google Services but once up and running it's just like every other Android phone I've owned. I got the 512GB 12GB RAM version and it is SO responsive and fast. I think the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 with a minimal UI over stock Android keeps it really fast. The 165hz refresh rate is SO smooth and the in-screen fingerprint reader has the fastest response time I've ever experienced on a phone. The one thing that helped my decision to get this one over other Moto phones is the 2x zoom camera. Having the 3x zoom on the S22 Ultra spoiled me and now I won't even consider a phone unless it has a good selfie, normal, wide and zoom (Not Digital). I'm a professional photographer so that kind of thing is important. Digital zoom is crap. lol
 
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I'm located in Central United States. I can attest, at least in my area, that AT&T works great and I also get 5G where available. I'm not located near any large metro areas so it mostly picks up 4G LTE, but it has picked up 5G on a handful of occasions. I was a little nervous about buying a phone with no pre-installed Google Services but once up and running it's just like every other Android phone I've owned. I got the 512GB 12GB RAM version and it is SO responsive and fast. I think the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 with a minimal UI over stock Android keeps it really fast. The 165hz refresh rate is SO smooth and the in-screen fingerprint reader has the fastest response time I've ever experienced on a phone. The one thing that helped my decision to get this one over other Moto phones is the 2x zoom camera. Having the 3x zoom on the S22 Ultra spoiled me and now I won't even consider a phone unless it has a good selfie, normal, wide and zoom (Not Digital). I'm a professional photographer so that kind of thing is important. Digital zoom is crap. lol
There's an option in the settings to enable Google services.
Would you mind sharing some screenshots please? I'd like to see if yours shows anything different. Mine doesn't connect to 5G at all in the UK. I tried 3 out of 4 major networks here and none work. 4g only.
Can you please attach a screenshot after dialling*#*#4636#*#* and show phone information page and 5g/LTE debugging Screenshot_20230203-212103.pngScreenshot_20230203-212058.png
 

phatfunk123

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There's an option in the settings to enable Google services.
Would you mind sharing some screenshots please? I'd like to see if yours shows anything different. Mine doesn't connect to 5G at all in the UK. I tried 3 out of 4 major networks here and none work. 4g only.
Can you please attach a screenshot after dialling*#*#4636#*#* and show phone information page and 5g/LTE debugging View attachment 5827213View attachment 5827215
I tried dialing what you asked and it just came back as unable to complete the call. Is there any other way to access those settings?
 

ijuanp03

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I love it. So far the ONLY gripe I have is I have been unable to find a way to successfully pair and use my Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro with it - Seems to be a regional incompatibility. My Amazfit devices work fine with it, so I assume I will just have to start wearing a different watch and sell my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro, because I like the phone too much. For some background I've been using a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra for the past year.

I am using my very old Galaxy Watch Active (yes, 1st gen) on my X30 Pro without any issue.
I have setup Samsung Pay as well and it works like a charm.
Notifications are working as well.

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On a side note, Galaxy Buds Live is not working properly - I can't enable ANC just because of the bug where I can't enable Samsung Buds Plugin under device app & notification since that specific Samsung Plugin is missing.

I know it's NOT the X30 Pro CN ROM's fault but Samsung's. Why? Because I have my official Europe Motorola RAZR 5G and has the same issue.
 

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