[APP][2.1+] ICE Card 1.4.2 - Probably the best I.C.E. app!

[chucky6600]

thank.......

 

[heeljeff]

In my case I use widgetlocker and added a shortcut to the Med Helper Pro app, which allows you to list and track meds.
Good start for this app though...

What about to add shortcut to Lockscreen and information of Medical Insurance?

My suggestion....Good job!!

Regards

 

[SDeba]

But ICE Card is completely different from Med Helper Pro

 

[raven198]

How about a way to show the relationship of the contacts that are listed? Makes the person making the call aware of who they will be speaking to.

 

[SDeba]

Another cool feature. Added to my list

 

[littlezec]

Hi mate!

Very good looking app, keep up your work

How can I help translate it to Portuguese (European)?

 

[SDeba]

Just PM me on XDA-Developers or send an e-mail to [email protected] and I'll give you instructions

 

[mgschwan]

Wouldn't it be nice if the ICE App started automatically if the G Sensor detects a certain spike (like a car crash)?

 

[Ciambello]

Italian translation

Hi there,
first of all nice app, I really like the concept and its functionality. If you'd like I could translate it into italian or even german. Let me know,

Cheers!

 

[Evostance]

Great app. Nice and simple, saves putting ICE infront of contracts.

Any chance in the ability to add more contacts though? I'd like to have 4 ICE contacts but its limited to 3

 

[oradul]

any spike

Wouldn't it be nice if the ICE App started automatically if the G Sensor detects a certain spike (like a car crash)?

think about it. the phone has a limit of force that it detects ( a movement of the sensor that makes the phone know it was a sudden and strong "kick" ), thus if you jump, going over a speed bump too fast, on some kind of a ride, running or even just falling on the bed after a long day. all these things will start the app because it will think that something happened.

 

[mgschwan]

think about it. the phone has a limit of force that it detects ( a movement of the sensor that makes the phone know it was a sudden and strong "kick" ), thus if you jump, going over a speed bump too fast, on some kind of a ride, running or even just falling on the bed after a long day. all these things will start the app because it will think that something happened.

I know that the phone won't be able to detect the forces that are exerted when a car crashes into something. But there is probably a pattern that allows a clear distinction between a car crash and a speed bump or a jump. And i am not talking about some machine learning classification algorithm here.

Think about it.

During a car crash the forces are extreme which will saturate the readings of the g-sensor, so all you get is the maximum value the sensor can measure. But the duration of the impact is also much longer (compared to a simple speedbump). So you get a maxed out reading for let's say 50 milliseconds while for a speedbump it may only be a spike of 5 milliseconds (just guessing the values here)

And another big difference is. Jumping or running over a speedbump does not stop you from going on, so the g sensor will have continuos reading after the incident, since you keep on walking/running/driving or even if you are standing.
But after a crash when you are no longer concious (which is the whole point of the ICE app i guess) the readings of the sensor will drop to an absolute minimum, which in itself suggests that something is wrong.

And besides that fact that it should be detectable if this was a real crash and not a normal bump, where is the harm in starting the app to often. If you are ok and it was a false alarm you can simply deactivate it. And if you can't deactivate it something must obviously be wrong with you.


So a simple solution to detect a crash from a normal spike would be.

• If the app detects a maxed out sensor reading for a certain timespan check the readings for the next 30-60 seconds.
• If the sensor does basically show absolute silence the impact was some sort of accident
• If the sensor continues to show normal readings (small spikes in all directions) everything is fine and the incident was just a normal bump/jump whatever
  • 
    
    Well just my 2 cents

 

[HanaPoulpe]

Great app, I can help to translate in french.

Another good feature to add can be the contact of doctors (generalist and specialist), it can be useful for getting medical information.

I think you can add a medical assurance number to and an option for organs donation.

I read about an idea of a SD card save, I think the SDCard save should be a text document name ICE at root of SD card, so if the phone is broken but sd-card still fine, a simple sticker on the phone can tell that the phone as ICE Card and medical information are saved on SD card.

I contact you by MP for french translation ^^

 

[SDeba]

Great app. Nice and simple, saves putting ICE infront of contracts.

Any chance in the ability to add more contacts though? I'd like to have 4 ICE contacts but its limited to 3

Probably no. I.C.E. standard is telling everyone to use 3 ICE contacts. Why? Because in case of emergency medic don't have time to choose one contact from 5,8 or even 10 ones. Just choose 3 MOST IMPORTANT people and you're ready to go

think about it. the phone has a limit of force that it detects ( a movement of the sensor that makes the phone know it was a sudden and strong "kick" ), thus if you jump, going over a speed bump too fast, on some kind of a ride, running or even just falling on the bed after a long day. all these things will start the app because it will think that something happened.

Completely agree with you

I know that the phone won't be able to detect the forces that are exerted when a car crashes into something. But there is probably a pattern that allows a clear distinction between a car crash and a speed bump or a jump. And i am not talking about some machine learning classification algorithm here.

Think about it.

During a car crash the forces are extreme which will saturate the readings of the g-sensor, so all you get is the maximum value the sensor can measure. But the duration of the impact is also much longer (compared to a simple speedbump). So you get a maxed out reading for let's say 50 milliseconds while for a speedbump it may only be a spike of 5 milliseconds (just guessing the values here)

And another big difference is. Jumping or running over a speedbump does not stop you from going on, so the g sensor will have continuos reading after the incident, since you keep on walking/running/driving or even if you are standing.
But after a crash when you are no longer concious (which is the whole point of the ICE app i guess) the readings of the sensor will drop to an absolute minimum, which in itself suggests that something is wrong.

And besides that fact that it should be detectable if this was a real crash and not a normal bump, where is the harm in starting the app to often. If you are ok and it was a false alarm you can simply deactivate it. And if you can't deactivate it something must obviously be wrong with you.


So a simple solution to detect a crash from a normal spike would be.

• If the app detects a maxed out sensor reading for a certain timespan check the readings for the next 30-60 seconds.
• If the sensor does basically show absolute silence the impact was some sort of accident
• If the sensor continues to show normal readings (small spikes in all directions) everything is fine and the incident was just a normal bump/jump whatever
  • 
    
    Well just my 2 cents

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    The idea itself is great, but it's more problematic than helpful in case of mobile phones. First of all there are thousands of car accident types. Phone won't be able to detect many of them. I'm also aware that accelerometer readings which we can get via Android API aren't very accurate, so it makes another problem. Last issue which will make this function useless is the fact that non-stop monitoring the accelerometer values and comparing it to specific schemes will drain your battery in few hours. BUT if someone will build an module using for example Arduino ADK, than it should work better and do the desired task quite effectively.
    
    

    Great app, I can help to translate in french.
    
    Another good feature to add can be the contact of doctors (generalist and specialist), it can be useful for getting medical information.
    
    I think you can add a medical assurance number to and an option for organs donation.
    
    I read about an idea of a SD card save, I think the SDCard save should be a text document name ICE at root of SD card, so if the phone is broken but sd-card still fine, a simple sticker on the phone can tell that the phone as ICE Card and medical information are saved on SD card.
    
    I contact you by MP for french translation ^^

    Personal doctor contact, medical assurance information and organs donation will be added in near future The SD Card idea is quite useless. In case of emergency no one will be trying to get your SD Card out from the phone and trying to read it. Too much trouble

 

[heeljeff]

I have to disagree that it is completely different. As you said in one of your recent posts, ICE Card will track "Personal doctor contact, medical assurance information", all of which is tracked in med helper pro. The benefit of mhp is it not only lists my emergency contact, but the meds I have taken, allergies, doctors, etc. The real difference being that MHP was not designed as a ICe app but an app to track meds, however it works quite well as an ICE app.
ICE Card has a big market however, and is off to a great start. If the features you spoke of and those that were suggested are added, I'd happily use ICE Card. It would save me from having to use Zoom and Tasker.

But ICE Card is completely different from Med Helper Pro

 

[SDeba]

I've moved translation project to myGengo as it will be easier to all of us to manage it and translate updates Anyone who already sent me their e-mails should have received Invitations. Anyone who would like to participate to this project do following steps:
1. Go to http://mygengo.com/string/p/ice-card-1/
2. Select "Request access"
3. Type your e-mail address and in personal notes write which language would you like to maintain
4. I'm accepting your request and you're ready to go

Thanks for helping me, you're great

 

[ObserverBG]

One more language added to:
http://mygengo.com/string/p/ice-card-1/
Bulgarian - 96% ready, 3 strings "Pending Review" in a test version of the ICE Card app.

 

[mabz2k]

my random thinking

I had a thought, I always keep my phone locked. If I collapsed on the street no one else on the street will know my password and i wouldn't want to give it out. If it can't be unlocked then the app cannot be accessed, is it feasable to have the details on the lock screen so the info can be read or will it cause a security risk if exploited will unlock the phone without the password?

i like the idea of the app, great job on it

 

[circleofomega]

Quite cool...yes, address...

 

[m-p{3}]

I had a thought, I always keep my phone locked. If I collapsed on the street no one else on the street will know my password and i wouldn't want to give it out. If it can't be unlocked then the app cannot be accessed, is it feasable to have the details on the lock screen so the info can be read or will it cause a security risk if exploited will unlock the phone without the password?

i like the idea of the app, great job on it

I would definitely like the idea of having an I.C.E. virtual card on my cellphone. However, it is unlikely that when I collapse I happen to have unlocked my phone. As I use my phone for work, there is a mandatory lockscreen policy that I cannot remove which is pushed by Exchange.

Would it be possible to have those informations shown on the ICS lockscreen when locked with a PIN or password?