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[APP 4.0+] 3C All-in-One Toolbox

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3c

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Hello,
when I change the state of an app component (service, provider ...) in the Toolbox the App Manager io.github.muntashirakon.AppManager (F-Droid) immediately shows the new state. But it doesn't work vice versa, 3C Toolbox only shows the state set in the Toolbox itself.
Can you, please, show the real state in the Toolbox also?
Thank you very much.
That's only possible if you don't close the toolbox page showing such state. Otherwise the state shown in toolbox is the one set within Android OS.
It only refreshes itself when you open that screen and I'll bet it's either the same for F-Droid or it just refreshes every-time you get back to that screen which is quite counter-productive in most scenarios.
 
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That's only possible if you don't close the toolbox page showing such state. Otherwise the state shown in toolbox is the one set within Android OS.
It only refreshes itself when you open that screen and I'll bet it's either the same for F-Droid or it just refreshes every-time you get back to that screen which is quite counter-productive in most scenarios.
OK, thank you, I was deceived by an issue of the other App Manager that did not really deactivate components. After this issue is resolved is is as you say.
Edit: But I'd find it helpful if 3C App Manager updated the screen not only when I reopen the permissions page but also when I switch between the tabs of that page.
 
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Hi,
is it possible to add a shortcut to toggle battery charging limitation on/of?
Additionally
- to add a minimum percentage when charging should start so that the battery is not being charged for only a few percent?
- to add scheduled backups of sensitive Backups in the backup log of the Toolbox?
- to run a scheduled Wifi backup with Sensitive Backups also when APNs have been removed?
 

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Hi,
is it possible to add a shortcut to toggle battery charging limitation on/of?
Additionally
- to add a minimum percentage when charging should start so that the battery is not being charged for only a few percent?
- to add scheduled backups of sensitive Backups in the backup log of the Toolbox?
- to run a scheduled Wifi backup with Sensitive Backups also when APNs have been removed?

Scheduled backups will now be logged in backup log of the toolbox.

I'm not sure about the rational of backing-up wifi settings when an APN is removed. Not sure if I can track APN removal using an event-based mechanism, not even sure I can list all APNs anymore on recent version of Android!?

I'll look at minimum percentage however it can be very complicated because some device will maintain the battery at the limit, some other will let it discharge. For the later it would indeed be interesting to let it discharge to that minimum percentage.
 
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@3c since some updates ago I've noticed two changes which I consider problematic.

First, before when I'd entefr text into the search field it'd filter the app list, now it keeps it and just jumps to the next app featuring the text. I find this behavior inferior. Could you enable also the original search format?

Second, and this is a gigantic problem for me — whenever the app is exited and restarted, the app details (I start on the app page) is reloaded. The circle under the top tab keeps spinning, reading the app sizes or what have you. For me it takes like half an hour.

It didn't do this prior — can you add an option to perhaps save app details etc somewhere so on app restart the data would be read momentarily and only reload it manually?

Many thanks! This would really help significantly.
 
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@3c since some updates ago I've noticed two changes which I consider problematic.

First, before when I'd entefr text into the search field it'd filter the app list, now it keeps it and just jumps to the next app featuring the text. I find this behavior inferior. Could you enable also the original search format?

Second, and this is a gigantic problem for me — whenever the app is exited and restarted, the app details (I start on the app page) is reloaded. The circle under the top tab keeps spinning, reading the app sizes or what have you. For me it takes like half an hour.

It didn't do this prior — can you add an option to perhaps save app details etc somewhere so on app restart the data would be read momentarily and only reload it manually?

Many thanks! This would really help significantly.

Search button has been changed into a true search feature. Whereas the filter button can now be used to filter the list. This change is mandatory to make the whole UI more consistent and intuitive.

Concerning your second issue, the app cache all app details and update them in background, and that's this way for years now. List is shown in a couple of seconds on slowest devices. So if you experience anything else there is likely a cache DB corruption or other internal issue.

For that you'll have to start a debug session from app settings help and support, reproduce the issue, and send a support request immediately after mentioning your issue so I can start investigating.
 

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Concerning your second issue, the app cache all app details and update them in background, and that's this way for years now. List is shown in a couple of seconds on slowest devices. So if you experience anything else there is likely a cache DB corruption or other internal issue.
The list does show fast — what I mean is the bar above the list: it says XX apps and then XXX Gb.

It seems like it's reading the app sizes or what have you — while it does it displays a turning circle to the left of this. On my super fast phone with 100s of apps and showing 200 Gigs this runs for like 20 minutes until it reads everything and stops. Then on next start it rereads it again. That doesn't seem to be very efficient.

What is it loading? App data sizes? Can this be set toggleable, so it doesn't rerun always?
 

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The list does show fast — what I mean is the bar above the list: it says XX apps and then XXX Gb.

It seems like it's reading the app sizes or what have you — while it does it displays a turning circle to the left of this. On my super fast phone with 100s of apps and showing 200 Gigs this runs for like 20 minutes until it reads everything and stops. Then on next start it rereads it again. That doesn't seem to be very efficient.

What is it loading? App data sizes? Can this be set toggleable, so it doesn't rerun always?
I had this issue not after an update but after re-installing the Toobox and restoring the app data quite some time ago with earlier versions. The general behavior has not changed but now it takes very long on your device. I hope that 3C can help you.
 

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Scheduled backups will now be logged in backup log of the toolbox.

I'm not sure about the rational of backing-up wifi settings when an APN is removed. Not sure if I can track APN removal using an event-based mechanism, not even sure I can list all APNs anymore on recent version of Android!?

I'll look at minimum percentage however it can be very complicated because some device will maintain the battery at the limit, some other will let it discharge. For the later it would indeed be interesting to let it discharge to that minimum percentage.
Thank you for the aditional logging. The reason for backing up APNs even if there have only removed some is that I don't want to restore removed ones.

With respect to my post above: Can you add a shortcut to toggle battery charging limitation on/off?
 
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I had this issue not after an update but after re-installing the Toobox and restoring the app data quite some time ago with earlier versions. The general behavior has not changed but now it takes very long on your device. I hope that 3C can help you.
I removed the toolbox — yes it was restored from backup. Reinstalled it clean from the Play store — however I have the same behavior, on every reload it's rereading the data: the circle is turning and it's running a long time…
 

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I removed the toolbox — yes it was restored from backup. Reinstalled it clean from the Play store — however I have the same behavior, on every reload it's rereading the data: the circle is turning and it's running a long time…
I am not sure how I fixed that. As far as I remember I could not restore the backed up data even after a clean install, I had to set everything new. :(
Especially to set up the backup folders in the settings dialog is not smooth.
I don't remember if the data in internal storage are removed by uninstalling the app. Did you make sure they were removed?

Re-reading the data is normal behavior, only the long time was the issue after trying to restore the backed up data.
 

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How do I get 3C Toolbox to work with LSPosed? The prompt to install the xposed module is in the active tweaks section, but there is a 3C module already installed and active in my module list. I don't know how it got there though. I presume it self-installed when I installed the system helper module, but I might have installed it manually another way and forgotten how.

There are no default recommended options so I tried enabling systemui and system framework but these don't make it active within the app.

Is it a simple matter of enabling the right LSPosed apps in the mod list, or is there another way to install the LSPosed mod and have the app recognise it as an intalled xposed mod? Is there a list of recommended apps to enable for 3c's LSPosed app list?
 

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Well, now I am having the same issue as here but less bad.
I removed the toolbox — yes it was restored from backup. Reinstalled it clean from the Play store — however I have the same behavior, on every reload it's rereading the data: the circle is turning and it's running a long time…

After an OTA-Update several apps had vanished, among them the 3C Toolbox.
After installing it scanning the apps in the app manager takes rather long. I found out hat this is related to scanning the system apps.
If the apps are filtered for user apps (97) it takes about 10 secs. until the throbber stops. If the apps are filtered for system apps (134) ist takes 2 1/2 mins., far longer than before I reinstalled the Toolbox. If the apps are not filtered it takes even longer, 4 mins.
 
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The list does show fast — what I mean is the bar above the list: it says XX apps and then XXX Gb.

It seems like it's reading the app sizes or what have you — while it does it displays a turning circle to the left of this. On my super fast phone with 100s of apps and showing 200 Gigs this runs for like 20 minutes until it reads everything and stops. Then on next start it rereads it again. That doesn't seem to be very efficient.

What is it loading? App data sizes? Can this be set toggleable, so it doesn't rerun always?
It should be fixed in last beta update to be published today. Thanks for the heads-up.
 

3c

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Well, now I am having the same issue as here but less bad.


After an OTA-Update several apps had vanished, among them the 3C Toolbox.
After installing it scanning the apps in the app manager takes rather long. I found out hat this is related to scanning the system apps.
If the apps are filtered for user apps (97) it takes about 10 secs. until the throbber stops. If the apps are filtered for system apps (134) ist takes 2 1/2 mins., far longer than before I reinstalled the Toolbox. If the apps are not filtered it takes even longer, 4 mins.
If it's the same issue I found, it should be fixed in beta update today. However it's unrelated to system apps, but rather the number of backups, because the app will check how many backups each app have and using SAF had a side-effect looping over listing directories over and over.

If you have all user apps backed-up (or most of them), that would explain why it's very fast for user apps alone.
 

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If it's the same issue I found, it should be fixed in beta update today. However it's unrelated to system apps, but rather the number of backups, because the app will check how many backups each app have and using SAF had a side-effect looping over listing directories over and over.

If you have all user apps backed-up (or most of them), that would explain why it's very fast for user apps alone.
For the sake of completeness I answer here, too, but I also answered via email.
I have plenty of user apps backed up and only 4 system apps. I don't quite understand: Scanning the user apps is rather normal, the system apps take minutes to scan - in the apps tab, not in the backups tab. There are many backups for user apps and scanning the many backup directories goes much faster than the few system app backups?
 
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For the sake of completeness I answer here, too, but I also answered via email.
I have plenty of user apps backed up and only 4 system apps. I don't quite understand: Scanning the user apps is rather normal, the system apps take minutes to scan - in the apps tab, not in the backups tab. There are many backups for user apps and scanning the many backup directories goes much faster than the few system app backups?
That's exactly the thing, when there's no backup (and using SAF), my app was (unfortunately) double-checking list of backup folders, hence for apps without backup it take much longer.

That should be fixed in beta 2.5.1d (or 1.1.9 of Apps Manager).
 

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    For the sake of completeness I answer here, too, but I also answered via email.
    I have plenty of user apps backed up and only 4 system apps. I don't quite understand: Scanning the user apps is rather normal, the system apps take minutes to scan - in the apps tab, not in the backups tab. There are many backups for user apps and scanning the many backup directories goes much faster than the few system app backups?
    That's exactly the thing, when there's no backup (and using SAF), my app was (unfortunately) double-checking list of backup folders, hence for apps without backup it take much longer.

    That should be fixed in beta 2.5.1d (or 1.1.9 of Apps Manager).
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    The list does show fast — what I mean is the bar above the list: it says XX apps and then XXX Gb.

    It seems like it's reading the app sizes or what have you — while it does it displays a turning circle to the left of this. On my super fast phone with 100s of apps and showing 200 Gigs this runs for like 20 minutes until it reads everything and stops. Then on next start it rereads it again. That doesn't seem to be very efficient.

    What is it loading? App data sizes? Can this be set toggleable, so it doesn't rerun always?
    It should be fixed in last beta update to be published today. Thanks for the heads-up.
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    Well, now I am having the same issue as here but less bad.


    After an OTA-Update several apps had vanished, among them the 3C Toolbox.
    After installing it scanning the apps in the app manager takes rather long. I found out hat this is related to scanning the system apps.
    If the apps are filtered for user apps (97) it takes about 10 secs. until the throbber stops. If the apps are filtered for system apps (134) ist takes 2 1/2 mins., far longer than before I reinstalled the Toolbox. If the apps are not filtered it takes even longer, 4 mins.
    If it's the same issue I found, it should be fixed in beta update today. However it's unrelated to system apps, but rather the number of backups, because the app will check how many backups each app have and using SAF had a side-effect looping over listing directories over and over.

    If you have all user apps backed-up (or most of them), that would explain why it's very fast for user apps alone.
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    Well, now I am having the same issue as here but less bad.
    I removed the toolbox — yes it was restored from backup. Reinstalled it clean from the Play store — however I have the same behavior, on every reload it's rereading the data: the circle is turning and it's running a long time…

    After an OTA-Update several apps had vanished, among them the 3C Toolbox.
    After installing it scanning the apps in the app manager takes rather long. I found out hat this is related to scanning the system apps.
    If the apps are filtered for user apps (97) it takes about 10 secs. until the throbber stops. If the apps are filtered for system apps (134) ist takes 2 1/2 mins., far longer than before I reinstalled the Toolbox. If the apps are not filtered it takes even longer, 4 mins.
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    If it's the same issue I found, it should be fixed in beta update today. However it's unrelated to system apps, but rather the number of backups, because the app will check how many backups each app have and using SAF had a side-effect looping over listing directories over and over.

    If you have all user apps backed-up (or most of them), that would explain why it's very fast for user apps alone.
    For the sake of completeness I answer here, too, but I also answered via email.
    I have plenty of user apps backed up and only 4 system apps. I don't quite understand: Scanning the user apps is rather normal, the system apps take minutes to scan - in the apps tab, not in the backups tab. There are many backups for user apps and scanning the many backup directories goes much faster than the few system app backups?
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    [APP 4.1+] 3C All-in-One Toolbox

    3C Toolbox, available on Play Store and XDA Labs is the most comprehensive must-have toolbox for Android version 4.1 and above, running any ROM or kernel. Issues, suggestions, feature requests, please make sure to read post #2.

    This app includes all features delivered separately in below apps. This is the result of many years of work to bring all features together in an easy-to-use giant toolbox, and it includes the features of many other apps, including Titanium Backup, Greenify, BetterBatteryStats, App2SD, Seeder, ROM Toolbox Pro, SetCPU, System Panel, Root Explorer, Autorun Manager, Terminal Emulator, Script Editor, SD Booster, BuildProp Editor, ATK and so much more.

    What is 3C Toolbox Replaces 20+ apps easily worth 30€ for the price of a couple of beers!

    Download link Play Store XDA Labs


    Can take advantage of the following apps (not integrated because of policy restrictions from Play Store):

    3C Sensitive Backup - Allows backup/restore of SMS/MMS and call-log, can work with 3C Toolbox to schedule backups.

    3C Legacty Battery Stats - Allows reading Android legacy battery statistics


    Non-exhaustive list of integrated apps and features :

    3C CPU Manager (root) - CPU/GPU controls for root users

    3C Kernel Tweaker (root) - Kernel tweaking for root users

    3C Task Manager - A simple yet powerful task manager for Android

    3C Task Recorder - A simple yet powerful task recorder for Android

    3C Log Reader - A simple log reader allowing you to read logcat, kernel and xposed logs from a single place

    3C Explorer - This is a very simple file explorer for Android

    3C Toggles - Highly customizable widgets to control about 30 system components.

    3C Battery Monitor - The most complete tool to monitor your battery, have no equal on Play Store.

    3C Network Manager - Monitor trafic and control network configurations

    3C Apps Manager - The most complete app manager to backup/restore/control all your apps

    3C SQLite Manager - A simple SQLite editor


    More information

    App Features

    App screenshots

    3C Apps Feature Comparison

    Lowest CPU consumption on Play Store

    Permissions requested

    Getting started guide

    Online help

    Unique features not available elsewhere

    Track your ROM, kernel and battery performance (%/h or mA, screen on or standby)
    ◊ Battery milli-amp (mA), mW and %/h consumption reporting
    ◊ Automatic backup of installed and updated applications
    ◊ Highly configurable textual and graphical monitoring widgets
    ◊ The most advanced and configurable UI
    ◊ Clean and safe reboots, without data loss (root required)
    ◊ And much more
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    FAQ and guidelines for any queries

    Before you put a bad rating on Play Store for a single broken feature among the 100 the app delivers, and before you contact me (or post here), you may consider the following:
    3C Toolbox runs on hundreds of devices and custom ROMs, I cannot test all of them, however I try to change device regularly to ensure the app is compatible with all devices, please check my signature.

    ◊ 3C Toolbox and its derived apps are, at the time of writing, used by more than half a million users and 3C Toolbox Pro is rated 4.8/5 by about 3000 users.

    ◊ 3C Toolbox runs on Android 4.x and above, I always have at least one device running 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x and 8.x to avoid issues, however I may miss some key differences from time to time, possibly causing the app to crash or a feature to malfunction.

    ◊ 3C Toolbox is not a game relying on well established documentation, but an advanced toolbox which uses some undocumented features, which have evolved along with each version of Android. Even some documented features had to be adapted to newer Android versions.

    ◊ 3C Toolbox provides milli-Ampere data for your battery either provided by Android OS or estimated by the app when there is no current sensor. Hardware current sensor can sometimes report inaccurate or no data at all. It's impossible to predict how the next device will report milli-Ampere if it does at all.

    ◊ I'm a human being, not a service center, not a big corporate. Like any other human being I don't like being bashed or insulted by email or anywhere else and will no longer waste my time for anyone doing so.
    Why such guidelines?
    - You want new features and improvements as soon as possible?
    - You want a quick solution to a problem?
    - You don't want to waste your time explaining?

    Me too, that's that simple.
    Feature requests?
    Please explain using as few words as it's possible and join a screenshot if it applies to an existing feature. Pictures speaks 1000 words they say, maybe.
    Issues with CPU temperature or battery current mA or capacity mAh?
    Please explain this in a support request sent from app settings, help and support so I can provide the appropriate option to use in 'mA retrieval method' of battery / monitoring settings and add out-of-the-box support for your device. All necessary information is provided in the request's attachments.

    Battery current mA and CPU temperature are non standard on Android and every devices/manufacturers provides it differently or not at all. Don't blame the app if your device doesn't provide it or report inconsistent values, ask your manufacturer which get paid lots of bucks.
    Issues with GPU tab missing features?
    GPU configuration is not something standard on Android, and there are currently 10+ implementations available. If you miss something, please send a support request from app settings, help and support mentioning what's missing and a screenshot of each GPU tabs.
    How to get support for any other issues
    Please send a support request from app settings, help and support. You need to clearly explain your issue, attach any relevant screenshots showing where and how the issue occurs. I will not provide any support here.

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    Here is what I'm working on or planning next:

    • Improve ROM Manager with extra features.
    • Improve Battery Manager status tab and displayed data
    • Add tabs to App Manager (protect, debloat, crystallize, others?)
    • Add 'optimize' tab to System Manager for memory/storage
    • Improve file manager with swipe left-right and new tab options
    • Improve Terminal Emulator with real terminal display.
    • Improve UI, suggestions most welcome.
    • Removing all ads to see if it brings any positive results (currently testing on 3C Toolbox).
    • Add PayPal to XDA Labs apps if possible.

    This is my current objectives:
    • Increase user support from Play Store, Huawei AppGallery or XDA Labs
    • Get XDA Labs apps Google-free (using PayPal)
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    3C Task Manager 3.0 (beta)

    Dear users,

    I've updated (in beta) 3C Task Manager with the new project/build structure. APK size is reduced by 15% while delivering more features. Future maintenance will also be much easier.
    3C Task Manager is now capable of managing app's components (activities, services, etc...) and also to renice (Linux priority scheduling) processes (optionally using Xposed for efficiency).
    On rooted device, the app will also be able to use 3C Explorer to open an app's data folder or 3C Log Reader to get app's logs.

    This new build allows me to reduce development and maintenance times greatly when publishing apps other than the Toolbox.

    A lot of refactoring and splitting took place, allowing to build other apps (with similar look'n'feel) faster too, namely the SMS/Call-log backups that's now missing in the toolbox (due to Play Store restrictions).

    Next steps include:
    • Building an SMS/Call-log backup companion app and link it to the toolbox.
    • Adding full SAF / Content Provider support to Explorer
    • Allowing browsing network shares through Explorer's SAF / Content Provider
    • Adding app labeling in Apps Manager.
    • Rebuilding other apps (Battery Monitor, Toggles)
    • Creating 3C App Manager
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    Recent Update - Mea Culpa

    You have certainly noticed the recent updates that is supposed to improve root handling in my apps, and might have experienced issues.

    Why make such change

    In versions before 1.6.12, the app was using a very common root method, using scripts and Android commands. Each action was taking 120ms just to get started. Some features like app manager and explorer run a lot of them. With Marshmallow, there's even a bug that cause determining path to fail and require root, slowing down everything a lot.

    I started testing a shared library in 1.6.12 that would run root commands directly without this 120ms overhead and it worked really well, running some commands in 1ms instead!

    In 1.7, I've started 'migrating' all root features to this new method, always implementing a fall-back in case something went wrong. That didn't work so well in the end.

    What went wrong?

    To make it short, I was testing this new method on a few devices, running Android 6.0.1, 5.1, 4.4 and supposedly 2.3 but it was running 4.1.2. You can imagine easily how misleading this was!

    I learned that Samsung devices had special security constraints that made some commands fail completely and prevented the fallback to take place.

    At the same time, Xposed module was reported to fail on Marshmallow because of new security policies. Had to change everything because of that!

    Then the APK build process was no longer building the x64 versions anymore.

    What's next

    I'm still receiving reports of various issues on different versions of Android that I will have to address in the next few days/weeks.

    Android N is coming with new security restrictions that will require further changes, but this new root method is already taking care of that.

    Did I make a bad decision?

    No. Since Android implemented SELinux security policies in 4.2/4.3, each new version of Android has required many internal changes to keep features working, and its getting worse with M and now N.

    This new method not only offers much better performance but also requires much less workaround to keep working.

    Yes, I made a mistake. After hours of working nights and week-ends, it was still not ready for public release as I thought.

    What went even more wrong?

    In my desire to offer the best experience possible, I published fixes too quickly and instead of stabilizing stuff, I've only made it worse.

    Long story short

    I'm sorry for any inconveniences you might have experienced, and I'll do my best to make it better asap.

    Want to help?

    If you experience any issues and want to help, please send a support request from app settings, help and support, mentioning what happens and possibly screenshot for my understanding.

    The support request provides valuable information on the Android version, app logs, Xposed version if installed, app config, etc... Much needed so that I can investigate the issue with similar environment, otherwise I might be testing on a dozen devices without reproducing the issue.

    I can then send you an updated APK with a fix or with active debug if I can't pin-point the problem on my test devices.

    FWIW: Version 1.7 was addressing a number of issues in previous versions and I did hope it would make users happy with some nice improvements. My bad.