[APP 4.0+] 3C All-in-One Toolbox

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@3c and a minor point also: could you change the toast feedback and have two separate - different-worded toasts for when the freeze/unfreeze state is toggled via a shortcut?

Currently, it gives the same reaction for both when it freezes and unfreezes, something along the lines of - I'm translating from Japanese - “success” or “OK”. “Frozen” and “Unfrozen” would be more informative as to what actually happened.
 

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Separately - regarding the firewall: could you add finer filtering options? I.e. by tags and by blocked/allowed states?

Would be helpful managing apps…
Filtering by tag will be added in next update

@3c and a minor point also: could you change the toast feedback and have two separate - different-worded toasts for when the freeze/unfreeze state is toggled via a shortcut?

Currently, it gives the same reaction for both when it freezes and unfreezes, something along the lines of - I'm translating from Japanese - “success” or “OK”. “Frozen” and “Unfrozen” would be more informative as to what actually happened.
In next update, when apps are frozen, the toast will show "(frozen)" in the message.
 
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I am also wondering how to go about preserving system app setup, i.e. blocked components, for app backup where I don't want to, or can't save cache and data.

For instance Youtube is one such app:

— it's a system app, so I don't want to backup the app itself
— don't want to backup cache and settings as it'll be setup on system upgrade just by logging into it
— however - I'm disabling some of its activities etc through the Permissions tab - and would like to back these up, so they would be disabled again on a new system - without doing this manually

How to go about this?
 

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Can you also add filter by state - i.e. so you can only list allowed or disallowed apps? This would help greatly when you want to quickly trim the list of enabled apps for instance...
Will be added in next update.
I am also wondering how to go about preserving system app setup, i.e. blocked components, for app backup where I don't want to, or can't save cache and data.

For instance Youtube is one such app:

— it's a system app, so I don't want to backup the app itself
— don't want to backup cache and settings as it'll be setup on system upgrade just by logging into it
— however - I'm disabling some of its activities etc through the Permissions tab - and would like to back these up, so they would be disabled again on a new system - without doing this manually

How to go about this?
Simply backup the app in its minimum form (eg APK alone). It'll save toolbox settings along with it, which you'll be able to restore later.
 
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Will be added in next update.

Simply backup the app in its minimum form (eg APK alone). It'll save toolbox settings along with it, which you'll be able to restore later.
So it'll not “misfire” so to speak? In the sense when you run restore on an identical version of the app, already included in system, so not r/w itself — it'll just restore the toolbox settings?

That's great - didn't expect that...
 

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@3c there seems to be a bug with the firewall filtering by tag. When I select any tag to filter by, it doesn't filter - still shows all the apps as before.
 

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OK - so now, I think one more thing is missing for convenience of proper batch backups.

So - for some apps you can select only to backup the app, without the settings; for some maybe some other combination - only settings etc; and you can save these individual combinations as the app default.

This is good - and on further single backups of the app, the app default settings for backup get preselected.

This is however not the case when multiselecting more apps and running backup - then whatever combo you select in the backup popup box will be observed.

Could you add some “apply app backup defaults” choice to the combo box, so that then it would observe individual app defaults when set, and observe the “all apps” default fof apps where it's not set?
 

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OK - so now, I think one more thing is missing for convenience of proper batch backups.

So - for some apps you can select only to backup the app, without the settings; for some maybe some other combination - only settings etc; and you can save these individual combinations as the app default.

This is good - and on further single backups of the app, the app default settings for backup get preselected.

This is however not the case when multiselecting more apps and running backup - then whatever combo you select in the backup popup box will be observed.

Could you add some “apply app backup defaults” choice to the combo box, so that then it would observe individual app defaults when set, and observe the “all apps” default fof apps where it's not set?

Not sure why you would need such an option. When all apps default is set and other individual apps are also set, you can simply tap backup (not long press) so that it backups the selected apps picking the right setting automatically.
If you re-open the backup settings, its meant to change settings, and the app wouldn't know to which apps it applies if such option were selected.
 

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Not sure why you would need such an option. When all apps default is set and other individual apps are also set, you can simply tap backup (not long press) so that it backups the selected apps picking the right setting automatically.
If you re-open the backup settings, its meant to change settings, and the app wouldn't know to which apps it applies if such option were selected.
It doesn't — I checked. I have all-apps default set for everything, and some apps for instance only app backup. Now when I select two apps — one without an app-specific setting and one with — and click backup, it brings up the backup dialog window where you can toggle the backup options — then without boggling anything I press backup, and it backs everything up fully, i.e. not respecting the individual app's specific setting.
 

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It doesn't — I checked. I have all-apps default set for everything, and some apps for instance only app backup. Now when I select two apps — one without an app-specific setting and one with — and click backup, it brings up the backup dialog window where you can toggle the backup options — then without boggling anything I press backup, and it backs everything up fully, i.e. not respecting the individual app's specific setting.
It does if you checked the box saying "do no ask again". I've set it and I can select all apps, tap backup, and it doesn't show the dialog even though settings are different.

Makes me wonder if I should simply remove that checkbox and make it the default behavior to avoid any confusion (auto "do not ask again").
 

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It does if you checked the box saying "do no ask again". I've set it and I can select all apps, tap backup, and it doesn't show the dialog even though settings are different.

Makes me wonder if I should simply remove that checkbox and make it the default behavior to avoid any confusion (auto "do not ask again").
There is no “Do not ask again” checkbox — I'm on the latest beta. There's only a “Set as default” togglebox, if you're talking about that. In it you can select “No”, “App(s)” — which is what I check to make the app default to this in the future, and “All” which I've used for setting the global default.

Now — for the app where I selected only the app backup and toggled it to “App(s)” before, when I now select this app only in the list and hit “backup” it brings up the popup box with the correct — deselected — options just for this app. Then I can hit backup again and it goes on.

If I select this app and one more where its non set — the popup comes up with all to be backed up (the global default) and then backs up everything also for this app.
 

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There is no “Do not ask again” checkbox — I'm on the latest beta. There's only a “Set as default” togglebox, if you're talking about that. In it you can select “No”, “App(s)” — which is what I check to make the app default to this in the future, and “All” which I've used for setting the global default.

Now — for the app where I selected only the app backup and toggled it to “App(s)” before, when I now select this app only in the list and hit “backup” it brings up the popup box with the correct — deselected — options just for this app. Then I can hit backup again and it goes on.

If I select this app and one more where its non set — the popup comes up with all to be backed up (the global default) and then backs up everything also for this app.
The checkbox appears when you set default for selected apps or all apps, as you can see in screenshots attached.

You can edit default backup settings in apps settings, while you can edit individual backups settings in backups tab.
 

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If I select this app and one more where its non set — the popup comes up with all to be backed up (the global default) and then backs up everything also for this app.
I've been thinking about this problem, whether to make the check -box (do not ask again) checked by default, or changing the backup tab depending on selection.

When multiple apps are selected, load the various profiles and list them like this:
  • 3 apps: Default backup settings
  • 1 app: Backup APK, data, settings and cache
  • 2 apps: Backup APK and data
  • 1 app: Backup data and custom folder
Then user could click one profile and edit it as usual.

At the bottom of that list a 'do not ask again' check-box could update those profiles to be loaded without opening the dialog box.


On the other hand, making the check-box checked by default would eliminate the need for the above, which is a lot easier ;)
 
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I've been thinking about this problem, whether to make the check -box (do not ask again) checked by default, or changing the backup tab depending on selection.

When multiple apps are selected, load the various profiles and list them like this:
  • 3 apps: Default backup settings
  • 1 app: Backup APK, data, settings and cache
  • 2 apps: Backup APK and data
  • 1 app: Backup data and custom folder
Then user could click one profile and edit it as usual.

At the bottom of that list a 'do not ask again' check-box could update those profiles to be loaded without opening the dialog box.


On the other hand, making the check-box checked by default would eliminate the need for the above, which is a lot easier ;)
I think the above solution would definitely be good - it would need to list the packages also under the specific profile, so that you would see which ones are affected.
 

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Hi @3c - I have one more idea for the filtering in backups display, that would be very useful I think.

Could you add also filter by date somehow - with older than, or something?

I frequently want to carry mass backups for hundreds of selected apps - then in the middle something goes wrong, for instance one backup is too gigantic due to cache, so want to exclude it in settings - and then have to restart the mass backup.

Currently, I either have to go through pages and pages of apps listed and hand select the ones with older backups, since I don't want to redo the ones that finished... Tedious.

Like this you could filter by backup date easily and it would improve the ability to quickly select what still has to be backed up.
 

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Hi @3c - I have one more idea for the filtering in backups display, that would be very useful I think.

Could you add also filter by date somehow - with older than, or something?

I frequently want to carry mass backups for hundreds of selected apps - then in the middle something goes wrong, for instance one backup is too gigantic due to cache, so want to exclude it in settings - and then have to restart the mass backup.

Currently, I either have to go through pages and pages of apps listed and hand select the ones with older backups, since I don't want to redo the ones that finished... Tedious.

Like this you could filter by backup date easily and it would improve the ability to quickly select what still has to be backed up.
You should use the auto update backup features, and scheduling the update of existing backups. That way the app will determine on its own which app and what actually needs to be backed-up (updated).
 

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You should use the auto update backup features, and scheduling the update of existing backups. That way the app will determine on its own which app and what actually needs to be backed-up (updated).
I don't want to have backups run automatically and regularly or autonomously - and I control what I back up and when - based on conditionns, like before update etc. I run them only when I decide to run them - and then it's as per the above mentioned scenario - that's why having this filtering ability would be beneficial.

I think it's beneficial to have potential for advanced control of everything - and not have to - if you don't want to - rely on the app to monitor changes and decide for you when to back up.
 

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I don't want to have backups run automatically and regularly or autonomously - and I control what I back up and when - based on conditionns, like before update etc. I run them only when I decide to run them - and then it's as per the above mentioned scenario - that's why having this filtering ability would be beneficial.

I think it's beneficial to have potential for advanced control of everything - and not have to - if you don't want to - rely on the app to monitor changes and decide for you when to back up.
Ok, what about sorting backups by date? This will avoid having to ask user about which date to filter to/from, and will allow you to see which backups have not been updated since any particular date.
 
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