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[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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La_Globule

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Hello Marcel,
Just a quick message to thank you again for this nice app.
You managed to design and develop from scratch a new emailing app, open source and privacy oriented.
Don't be influenced by bad useless reviews, drop them and take care of you.
You are followed by many people who are glad to use your app.
You could can be proud of your work!
 
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Dark_Eyes_

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I can't reproduce this issue in any way. Item decorators should be updated automatically on notify item/data changed and this shouldn't be done "manually".
I just check on a pure PlayStore version on my Chromebook and I can reproduce it. In a new empty folder, move 2 messages with the same date and 2 others with the same date but different from the first 2.

At that point you should have 2 date headers. (Use group by date and sort on time). Select the third message, the first of the 2 oldest messages that has a header. Change it's importance to high. That will reorder the list, moving that message at the top with his own header, but then the 3 remaining will have the same header, which is incorrect for the last one.
 

M66B

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I just check on a pure PlayStore version on my Chromebook and I can reproduce it. In a new empty folder, move 2 messages with the same date and 2 others with the same date but different from the first 2.

At that point you should have 2 date headers. (Use group by date and sort on time). Select the third message, the first of the 2 oldest messages that has a header. Change it's importance to high. That will reorder the list, moving that message at the top with his own header, but then the 3 remaining will have the same header, which is incorrect for the last one.
@Dark_Eyes_ Can you please check if this works for you too?

 

M66B

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Since it happened too many times to me that I answered a message while a new message arrived making the answer less useful, the next version will show a bottom notification when a new message arrives in the same thread as you are composing a message for. Tapping on 'Show' will open the conversation, so you can quickly check the new message.
 

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Also, I realise that you like to suggest that the app is 'perfectly usable with the default configuration', but I humbly suggest that while that might be 'technically true', for the average user just looking for another (free?) email app the default configuration of FairEmail will come as an ENORMOUS shock
Completely agree. Average user from play store need nice looking app with as little as possible configuration. Just a thought, maybe doing like 3-4 levels of privacy, like: nice looking less secure, good privacy, super privacy - with default first one ? ...
 
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David B-E

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I'd just like to throw in that while I'd put my hand up to being (relatively) a 'power user' or 'technically knowledgeable user', I wouldn't label myself as a 'privacy focused' user as such. An ability to set an email client not to show images in emails by default, but easily set emails from addresses I choose to open showing images is certainly one of my requirements for an email client, but is hardly my only requirement. I'd be wary of strightjacketing thinking, development and marketing with over-restrictive labels.
 

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Since it happened too many times to me that I answered a message while a new message arrived making the answer less useful, the next version will show a bottom notification when a new message arrives in the same thread as you are composing a message for. Tapping on 'Show' will open the conversation, so you can quickly check the new message.
Nice feature!

But then, will you go back to the answer you were composing with the back key?
 

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Completely agree. Average user from play store need nice looking app with as little as possible configuration. Just a thought, maybe doing like 3-4 levels of privacy, like: nice looking less secure, good privacy, super privacy - with default first one ? ...

That's an interesting evolution of this general idea too.

Because it may also be another way to automatically, passively, and 'in app' educate users about their choice (if that remains a goal for FairEmail) while also hopefully resulting in less support questions too:

eg; when chosing the 'Nice Looking / Less Secure' option there could be a message detailing (in simple terms) the privacy implications of the choice, and maybe a link to further information that can be clicked if necessary.

I realise that the phrase "Disabling this option might be harmful to your privacy" already exists in FairEmails settings, but I'm not sure the average user even gets that far.

In any case it's more food for thought as Marcel grapples with how best to move forward, both for the benefit of users, as well as the benefit of his sanity :)
 
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Dark_Eyes_

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@M66B A small improvement idea. I don't know if it's a good idea or even feasible, but maybe the snackbar in the composer could show only when the Android heads up notification doesn't show? Otherwise you get 2 simultaneous notifications for the same message.
 

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@M66B A small improvement idea. I don't know if it's a good idea or even feasible, but maybe the snackbar in the composer could show only when the Android heads up notification doesn't show? Otherwise you get 2 simultaneous notifications for the same message.
There is no way to check if there is a heads up notification, unfortunately.
 

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David B-E

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Granted side effects from medication for my disability have messed badly with my memory, but I don't remember ANY of the first time use stuff in that review when I downloaded FairEmail from Google Play Store at all. Detecting my accounts and choosing which to use for my FairEmail account? Giving phone numbers? I don't recall any of that business at all. And what's this 'It is not an email platform meant to replace Gmail. Instead, it is an extension of your Google account that is designed to make your email more private'? I got it because it is an email client to 'replace' GMail ... well actually to replace another email client because I'd never ever use GMail in the first place so need to replace it. It works as a client for a GMail email account, but that's not what that part said. All in all I felt I was reading a review of a completely different app.
 

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    fairemail.net is registered by me now.

    I have even plans for it. More on this later.
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    Granted side effects from medication for my disability have messed badly with my memory, but I don't remember ANY of the first time use stuff in that review when I downloaded FairEmail from Google Play Store at all. Detecting my accounts and choosing which to use for my FairEmail account? Giving phone numbers? I don't recall any of that business at all. And what's this 'It is not an email platform meant to replace Gmail. Instead, it is an extension of your Google account that is designed to make your email more private'? I got it because it is an email client to 'replace' GMail ... well actually to replace another email client because I'd never ever use GMail in the first place so need to replace it. It works as a client for a GMail email account, but that's not what that part said. All in all I felt I was reading a review of a completely different app.
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    Confirming msg receipt by a link. So many times I wish I knew if the recipient of my emails had received it. Even though I ask for delivery/ read receipts I rarely get one. I understand that privacy is a concern here but it would be nice to know if someone got/ read your email.
    Why would someone click a link as a read receipt when they can send the built-in read receipt with the same effort (usually just one click)?
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    And I thought I was using some different app after being a FairEmail user since Dec 2018🤣
    You are using the real thing!

    Unfortunately, the domain name faircode.net is already taken, else I had reserved it to prevent misusage.
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    We did a short review of the FairEmail app - I hope you will like it. Supporting the open-source...our website is still a work in progress.
    This is the weirdest review I have read in my life. Maybe the writer tested several apps at the same time and got confused.

    Seems like I've found another site that I don't need to bookmark.
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    Stopping with improvements wouldn't be fair to the people appreciating my effort, so I will keep improving the GitHub version and reduce the Play store updates to once a month.
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    Since it happened too many times to me that I answered a message while a new message arrived making the answer less useful, the next version will show a bottom notification when a new message arrives in the same thread as you are composing a message for. Tapping on 'Show' will open the conversation, so you can quickly check the new message.
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    Version 1.1764 1.1765 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    Version 1.1761 fixes all reported problems, including my failures as reported by @Dark_Eyes_

    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    Version 1.1762 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    See this XDA article for some screenshots:
    https://www.xda-developers.com/fairemail-open-source-privacy-friendly-email/

    See here for more screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.


    XDA:DevDB Information
    FairEmail, App for all devices (see above for details)

    Contributors
    M66B
    Source Code: https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/


    Version Information
    Status:
    Stable

    Created 2018-08-02
    Last Updated 2020-11-18
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.10

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    I have put many hours into developing and debugging this release, so thanks are appreciated.

    This version is still not suitable for production, but all basic functions are present now. The goal is now to stabilize this version into a first beta release, so please let me hear what problems you have.

    Edit: due to database changes you'll need to setup your accounts/identities again.
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    I have just released beta version 1.745

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    The changelog might seem uninteresting, but in fact displaying messages has been rewritten to introduce inline displaying of original messages. I spent about two days developing and testing this, so at least a "thanks" will be appreciated.

    Some background: normally the web view cannot be used in a scrolling list (of messages in a conversation) and although there exist several workarounds for this, none were satisfactory. However, I had a completely novel idea (as far as I know) about how to approach this without the usual edge cases (hopefully) !

    To do: investigate if using a dark background is feasible (setting the background dark is simple, but the challenge is to modify the message so that everything is still readable). I will consider to add an option to always display original messages.

    Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.