[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

[mkasimd]

I am pretty unhappy about the situation and I am considering to pull all my apps from the Play store, close all related XDA threads and going back to anonymity.

The apps won't be sold in any case because in almost all cases this will not beneficial for the users of the app. There are plenty of examples of this.

If you are leaving, that's your decision ultimately. We will be sad about it, but we will also respect it.

However, I'd appreciate it, if you left the GitHub repo and this XDA thread available. So that anyone who wants to can fork the app and then inform the core users here in this thread. Even if it's just about keeping the libraries up to date and nothing else.

 

[nadir husain]

If you are leaving, that's your decision ultimately. We will be sad about it, but we will also respect it.

However, I'd appreciate it, if you left the GitHub repo and this XDA thread available. So that anyone who wants to can fork the app and then inform the core users here in this thread. Even if it's just about keeping the libraries up to date and nothing else.

I am going to use FE as long as I possibly can. Not going anywhere!
Yes I agree - ultimately it's Marcels decision.

 

[M66B]

@Oswald Boelcke can you please close all my threads. If this implies revoking my recognized developer's title, that's okay.

 

[Oswald Boelcke]

@Oswald Boelcke can you please close all my threads. If this implies revoking my recognized developer's title, that's okay.

I'm very sorry to hear this but I'm going to do as tasked. You're leaving a gap not only on XDA but also on every device of all people that care about their (and others) privacy. I feel so bad that Google did succeed - assuming that's the case due to all I've read above.
If you change your mind, just advise - and I hope you're going to change your mind!

I'll inform the Developer Committee who might get in contact with you if required.
Thread has been closed on request of OP!

 

[Oswald Boelcke]

On special request by PM of OP, Marcel aka @M66B, I have to inform you as follows:

Can you please write in each XDA thread that the GitHub repos have been restored?

Marcel, I know you can't respond here but personally I hope that this isn't your final decision.

 

[Oswald Boelcke]

Thread re-opened on request of OP @M66B who allowed me to share his PM with you:

Can you please open all threads again?

This is to give people a chance to discuss and to help each other. It doesn't mean I will resume development though.

 

[mrrocketdog]

woo hoo !!

 

[deechte]

Do you realize Marcel that by your latest actions you're actually hurting the people that have supported you all the way, have downvoted reviews at your request, have overloaded you with compliments day after day, have paid for your app?

Google and the bad reviewers ruin your life, but they're not here, they don't give a sh#t that you stop and even closed the thread.

Me and many others here have in the past replied to your review complaints and advised you to look at the good things, the majority of 5 star reviews, the insanely high average score etc. I've even told you there are courses out there to help transform your thinking and better deal with setbacks. It's all in your mind to improve that.

Now every developer has to deal with Google. They're awful, we know. Every developer complains, rightfully. But they do not all toss the towel. Come on.

 

[e5e197740b]

So I got the news via Caschys Blog.

I have a question: I bought the pro features of the app via the Google PlayStore.
The app itself is no longer available on the google play store.

I won't try to convince Marcel to change any of that, but is there any way for me to save my status quo?

Precisely, are the pro features just going to work should I ever have to manually install the latest GitHub apk I just saved? Is there a way to transfer the license? Or am I just, "**** out of luck", as the cool kids say, whenever I have to reset or change my smartphone?

 

[M66B]

Do you realize Marcel that by your latest actions you're actually hurting the people that have supported you all the way, have downvoted reviews at your request, have overloaded you with compliments day after day, have paid for your app?

Google and the bad reviewers ruin your life, but they're not here, they don't give a sh#t that you stop and even closed the thread.

Me and many others here have in the past replied to your review complaints and advised you to look at the good things, the majority of 5 star reviews, the insanely high average score etc. I've even told you there are courses out there to help transform your thinking and better deal with setbacks. It's all in your mind to improve that.

Now every developer has to deal with Google. They're awful, we know. Every developer complains, rightfully. But they do not all toss the towel. Come on.

I really appreciate all the good words and gestures, but I still haven't found a good answer to the question why I should continue the projects. I felt myself a slave of Google and of all those non stop demanding and judging people for a too long time, which changed into a liberated feeling now.

 

[M66B]

So I got the news via Caschys Blog.

I have a question: I bought the pro features of the app via the Google PlayStore.
The app itself is no longer available on the google play store.

I won't try to convince Marcel to change any of that, but is there any way for me to save my status quo?

Precisely, are the pro features just going to work should I ever have to manually install the latest GitHub apk I just saved? Is there a way to transfer the license? Or am I just, "**** out of luck", as the cool kids say, whenever I have to reset or change my smartphone?

You can update to the latest GitHub version if you wish. Google Play store purchases can't be transferred because the Play store policies do not allow this.

Edit: Play store purchases keep being valid, so you don't have to do anything.

 

[nadir husain]

I have paid for the app as you know Marcel. But I also have the pre release version from the play store. If it can only be downloaded via GitHub and it's all the same to you can you please make this a totally free app ? This will help others like me when we change devices. Thanks

 

[M66B]

I have paid for the app as you know Marcel. But I also have the pre release version from the play store. If it can only be downloaded via GitHub and it's all the same to you can you please make this a totally free app ? This will help others like me when we change devices. Thanks

https://email.faircode.eu/donate/#free

 

[quyleanh]

@M66B Thank you very much for maintaining such a great app. I hope you change your mind and continue this project as hobby.

Btw, you guys are on the HN now.

FairEmail stopping development after Google falsely flags app as spyware | Hacker News

news.ycombinator.com

 

[nadir husain]

Thanks Marcel
Now can you please please come back?
You don't have to develop this app. You don't have to answer questions. Just maintain it , that's all. All your users will know , do know that they are using the best email app around!

 

[The_Two]

Marcel and FairEmail is not alone with the problems with Google. See: https://www.golem.de/news/total-com...tallation-durch-google-zwang-2205-165492.html

This is realy no good development what Google is doing.

 

[M66B]

Thanks Marcel
Now can you please please come back?
You don't have to develop this app. You don't have to answer questions. Just maintain it , that's all. All your users will know , do know that they are using the best email app around!

As soon as I have a good answer to the why and how question. I am not sure if there are good answers to these questions.

 

[nadir husain]

As soon as I have a good answer to the why and how question. I am not sure if there are good answers to these questions.

There are never perfect answers to imperfect problems. Life is a compromise- usually one sided. You give a lot more than u get. That's always the way it is.
Enough said!

In the final count what ever you decide just be happy and try to get as much as you give to strive for the perfect balance.
Thanks for everything.

 

[boldrake]

Dear Marcel, I support any decision you make, and wish you and your girlfriend good continuation. Of course I hope you resume development.

 

[crendot2]

I'd like to say thank you for giving us quality apps that respect the user.
It is totally understandable you want to focus on things that matter to you most, do that!

Maybe in time you can come back and do it just for the fun of it, if not than not!

You choose to make your apps FOSS and this is a reason why some of us choose to use it. Life happens and someone can carry on, that's the beauty of it.

In our current time it is taxing and time consuming to go against the mainstream.
You helped us in that endeavor and i think many people are grateful.

I'm always thankful for the people that step up, be it to release an foss app or fight against megacorps. Both tasks are draining in its own way. And i can relate to everybody who chooses not to that.

Do what you think is best for you but be reminded that people are thankful for what you did!