[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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revaliru

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I already wrote you an email but kindly do it again here. I have had Fairmail for 3 years I think, even the Pro. I would like to donate something to thank you but I live in Russia and any of your donation methods have been sanctioned here unfortunately. Maybe you can help me?
 
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M66B

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I already wrote you an email but kindly do it again here. I have had Fairmail for 3 years I think, even the Pro. I would like to donate something to thank you but I live in Russia and any of your donation methods have been sanctioned here unfortunately. Maybe you can help me?
Your gesture is appreciated, but the same sanction rules limit what I can and what I am allowed to do too.
 
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@mkasimd thank your very much for helping with the privacy policy!

I'll be the first to admit I don't always read the privacy policies of my apps (I probably really should). Of those I have read this is the easiest to understand and if Google doesn't get it now then their lawyers have been reading legalese way too long.
 
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FairEmail is undoubtly the best email client on Android. Thanks for all the work. I'll be happy if you change your mind, but also happy if you are getting better with your decision.

And also, f*ck google.

edit : I am of course a pro user, and I'm using this app since 2 years now. I want to support your work as long as I can. So I'm donating again. https://email.faircode.eu/donate/
 
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I am sure this app won't break anytime soon so i am glad that as a pro-user i gave back a little bit.
It is a nice layout , shows enhanced things like headers for the interested people and it handles encryption very well for those of us whose communication partners actually use s/mime or pgp.
This and nine are the best mail apps out there and proof that you can get notifications without any remote server having your login credentials.
 

M66B

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It's just unbelievable :-(
I picked today a few messages for illustration purposes. This kind of messages might seem to be related to the moment, and there are of course more than usual, and they are also harsher than usual, but this is what I mean by daily hate email, going on for years already.

I need to add that the vast majority of the messages is rather nice, some being extremely nice. I try to answer most messages, but with a rate of a few dozens per hours that's not very easy. Don't let that withhold you to say something nice though.
 
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I picked today a few messages for illustration purposes. This kind of messages might seem to be related to the moment, and there are of course more than usual, and they are also harsher than usual, but this is what I mean by daily hate email, going on for years already.

I need to add that the vast majority of the messages is rather nice, some being extremely nice. I try to answer most messages, but with a rate of a few dozens per hours that's not very easy. Don't let that withhold you to say something nice though.
Just add there email addresses to your block list or use an email filters that deletes (or Marks as read if you feel you may need them for legal reasons) messages with that kind of language. No one in this industry deserves harassment.

I haven't had a chance to read through all your new material but maybe add a support disclaimer that states harassment or threatening emails will void any kind of support.
 

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FairEmail is undoubtly the best email client on Android. Thanks for all the work. I'll be happy if you change your mind, but also happy if you are getting better with your decision.

And also, f*ck google.

edit : I am of course a pro user, and I'm using this app since 2 years now. I want to support your work as long as I can. So I'm donating again. https://email.faircode.eu/donate/
Good idea, i was allready thinking about donating again and so i did.
Also pro user expecting nothing in return....

 
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I highly advise you to go to the closest postal office and ask them about post boxes (or look it up online). It's best to not disclose your home address online tbh
The address is already publicly viewable at least through the 'Privacy policy'.

But I don't assume that if someone is angry because of the discontinuation of the development/support, he takes the trouble to read through the forum messages page by page. That Marcel mentioned his girlfriend was for the first time on 17.05. (page 1087).

I can imagine that an "old acquaintance", Dr.Bob, will continue to provoke. Even if he does not appear here at the moment, he can nevertheless continue to read along here by means of a new account and enjoy the reactions which he causes.

But all this is of course only a hypothesis.
 

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    Version 1.1951 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    There is a new option in the advanced section of the connection settings page to disable using insecure connections for images, including favicons. Insecure means http instead of https, an invalid server certificate (for example an expired certificate) or a redirect via http (for example https > http > https).

    Unfortunately, there are too many images being referenced in an insecure way, explaining why this option is default off.
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    I cannot find a setting.

    Using the search under Settings I find the result
    Notifications:
    Defer notifications until the end of a phone call.

    If I now select the search result, it branches to 'Notifications -> Advanced',
    but I can't find this option - in spite of my reading glasses.

    Has anyone had more success than me :)
    It is the 5th option below the Advanced header, Postpone notifications during calls.
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    I cannot find a setting.

    Using the search under Settings I find the result
    Notifications:
    Defer notifications until the end of a phone call.

    If I now select the search result, it branches to 'Notifications -> Advanced',
    but I can't find this option - in spite of my reading glasses.

    Has anyone had more success than me :)
    Here it is the fifth option under notifications - advanced
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    I cannot find a setting.

    Using the search under Settings I find the result
    Notifications:
    Defer notifications until the end of a phone call.

    If I now select the search result, it branches to 'Notifications -> Advanced',
    but I can't find this option - in spite of my reading glasses.

    Has anyone had more success than me :)
    This feature requires Android 12 or later.
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    QUESTION ABOUT FAIR EMAIL OPTIONS:
    Assuming the starting point of no on-device Google Account...

    Q: Which of these Fair Email Google mail server options is "most" private?

    1. 2SV/2FA (using any of a half dozen secondary methods), or,
    2. What Fair Email terms "GMail (Android)", or,
    3. What Fair Email terms "GMail (OAuth)".

    Note Marcel knows the answer, so he can instantly nip this tangent in the bud by answering that question in a single word... (where I suspect the answer is undoubtably #3 but others strongly think it's #1 apparently, so I could be wrong - but it's NEVER gonna be #2.

    The desired single word answer is "none". Google scans all your messages and you can only hope that the gathered information isn't used in an un-private way. Option 1 (assumed to be app passwords) and option 3 do not send extra information to Google. Option 2 requires an on-device Google account. You can control the sync options of a Google account via the Android settings. If these options work as expected and are turned off, no information should be sent to Google. This applies to all other Google services and apps, like Maps and Drive, too. You'll need to go into the settings and turn things off and trust that Google honors this.

    I expect to see no more messages about this subject anymore, with no exceptions for anyone. If you want to continue discussing about this, you should create a new XDA thread for this.
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    The next version will have optionally VirusTotal integration, so you can check attachments easily:

    Screenshot_20220723-102554.png
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    That guy really needs his email. I wonder who he thinks will maintain the app after he killed you 🤔
    Given the messages I just received I am pretty sure this guy is reading here.

    To this guy: I am doing my best to hold this project together and what you are doing isn't helping, on the contrary. Instead, if the app is dear to you, you can better help and complain to the right people, mainly Google.
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    Version 1.1941 is available on GitHub now.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    Besides a series of small improvements and minor bug fixes, VirusTotal Integration was added. Please see this FAQ for more information about configuring and using this new feature:

    (181) How do I use VirusTotal?

    Note that the app hasn't been restored in the Play store yet. For the latest status updates, please see here:

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    Using a Gmail account in FairEmail will inevitably leak your IP address, and thus your rough location, but nothing else, except the obvious: the messages you receive and sent and their meta data (sender, receiver, subject, etc).

    Note that it is not a good idea to use a VPN to hide your IP address because you'll probably run into "Please log in via your web browser" at an inconvenient moment.

    For HOTP and TOTP I recommend FreeOTP+.

    I think enough has been said about the privacy aspects of a Google account now. Whether a Google account on your device is a privacy concern or not is off-topic here. If you want to keep discussing about this, please create another XDA thread for this. You can leave a link to the created thread here if you wish.
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    See here for screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    Please read this before requesting a new feature:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-get-support

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.
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    How was the call with Google today, Marcel?

    Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":

    Privacy Policy​

    All apps must post a privacy policy in both the designated field in Play Console and within the app itself. The privacy policy must, together with any in-app disclosures, comprehensively disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data, not limited by the data disclosed in the Data Safety section. This must include:
    • developer information and a privacy point of contact or a mechanism to submit inquiries
    • disclosing the types of personal and sensitive user data your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares; and any parties with which any personal or sensitive user data is shared
    • secure data handling procedures for personal and sensitive user data
    • the developer’s data retention and deletion policy
    • clear labeling as a privacy policy (e.g., listed as “privacy policy” in title)
    The entity (e.g., developer, company) named in the app’s Google Play listing must appear in the privacy policy or the app must be named in the privacy policy. Apps that do not access any personal and sensitive user data must still submit a privacy policy.

    Please make sure your privacy policy is available on an active URL (no PDFs) and is non-editable.

    So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

    I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

    Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

    The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
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    Version 1.1900 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval (which is the main goal of this release).

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    My girlfriend is slowly recovering too :)
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.