[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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M66B

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@M66B

(a fellow android firewall developer here)

You are an inspiration to a generation of NetGuard/FairEmail users and developers like me.

Do what you feel comfortable with.

Please don't let the _abuse_ get to you. You don't deserve it. Especially, after all these years of development effort and technical support.

My sincere hope is you reinstate the apps and find a way to make it a financially viable endeavour.

No matter what, you'll always be our hero.
Thanks.

The project doesn't need to be financially viable, it never was and never will be. That said, money plays as modest role. It creates a responsibility towards the sponsors, it buys equipment, and most importantly, it shows appreciation because money has an intrinsic value.
 

geodemarse

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Hello M66B,

I'm a FairEmail Pro user since 2019, downloaded from F-Droid.
I have been reading this thread carefully since last week. Everything has been said and well said, I just bring here for support Marcel.

I'm not a developer and I don't know if this is relevant here : I'm in France and I use the mail service of my operator @free.fr
I have 3 @free.fr emails configured on FairEmail.
At the end of April, beginning of May, I couldn't send any more mail, an error message telling me "The mail server said : 550 5.7.1 Spam Detected - Mail Rejected. Please see our policy at : http://postmaster.free.fr/#spam_detected." No fault with Thunderbird on my computer.
I followed the procedure to indicate a false positive.
Is there a causal link ? Since this week, it works :D Due to the latest FairEmail updates ?

In any case, take care of yourself and your loved ones.

N.B.: Marcel, you are incorrigible, no more 3 updates of the application since last week ;)
 
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M66B

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Hello M66B,

I'm a FairEmail Pro user since 2019, downloaded from F-Droid.
I have been reading this thread carefully since last week. Everything has been said and well said, I just bring here for support Marcel.

I'm not a developer and I don't know if this is relevant here : I'm in France and I use the mail service of my operator @free.fr
I have 3 @free.fr emails configured on FairEmail.
At the end of April, beginning of May, I couldn't send any more mail, an error message telling me "The mail server said : 550 5.7.1 Spam Detected - Mail Rejected. Please see our policy at : http://postmaster.free.fr/#spam_detected." No fault with Thunderbird on my computer.
I followed the procedure to indicate a false positive.
Is there a causal link ? Since this week, it works :D Due to the latest FairEmail updates ?

In any case, take care of yourself and your loved ones.

N.B.: Marcel, you are incorrigible, no more 3 updates of the application since last week ;)
An update can't explain why outbound messages aren't considered as spam anymore.
A common cause for this kind of problems is a network address the email server doesn't like.
So, using a different (mobile) network or a VPN can result in this problem too.

The latest GitHub update was May 18, almost a week ago.
 
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AG3S

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I don't mean this in a bad way, if money was the sole motivating factor, I might not even have started the project at all, but it sounds hypocritical that you hate subscriptions, you go even as far to say that you would leave the app behind for it, and that you on the other hand are depending on the app. Don't you want support if something doesn't work? Don't you want the app to be updated for new Android versions, which your next device might run? In other words, don't you want the app at least to be maintained and supported, and the room for improvement to be used?

Again, I don't mean this in a bad way. It just seems to me that you are mad because of bad behavior of others. That doesn't mean that everybody will behave in the same way.
This is exactly what I wanted to say... and is really sad to see...


Why not to pay a small fee a year for a software which we use on a daily basis!!!!!

Some people would like to see the project die than paying a ridiculous fee monthly!

However, I am sure many others here would love to contribute to this project.
 

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Hello @M66B
I'd like to build FairEmail from source and have Gmail OAuth working. I currently build the Github variant via Gradle and sign it with my own Java Keystore. However, in order for Gmail OAuth to work, I've noticed that I have to update the fingerprint and the public key in app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml, and I am unsure how exactly to do it.
How do I get the fingerprint and the public key associated with my Java Keystore? It might be a stupid question, but it's the first time I deal with signing an Android APK and I'm a bit confused.
Thank you in advance!
EDIT: I guess the fingerprint can be read from the associated .x509.pem private key file (?)
 

M66B

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Hello @M66B
I'd like to build FairEmail from source and have Gmail OAuth working. I currently build the Github variant via Gradle and sign it with my own Java Keystore. However, in order for Gmail OAuth to work, I've noticed that I have to update the fingerprint and the public key in app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml, and I am unsure how exactly to do it.
How do I get the fingerprint and the public key associated with my Java Keystore? It might be a stupid question, but it's the first time I deal with signing an Android APK and I'm a bit confused.
Thank you in advance!
You'll need to go through the Google audit process for this. This won't be easy.

Edit: if you want to do the same for Yahoo (Verizon), you'll need to sign a contract even.
 

M66B

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Oh. I thought you just performed a local test to avoid breaking some Google regulation, and not that it actually required an active intervention by Google... Pity.

Some background info:


Solution: use an app password.

Edit: the alternative solution is to create an OAuth app in the Google developer console and to configure this in providers.xml. This will work without approval for a handful of users.
 

M66B

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How was the call with Google today, Marcel?

Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":

Privacy Policy​

All apps must post a privacy policy in both the designated field in Play Console and within the app itself. The privacy policy must, together with any in-app disclosures, comprehensively disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data, not limited by the data disclosed in the Data Safety section. This must include:
  • developer information and a privacy point of contact or a mechanism to submit inquiries
  • disclosing the types of personal and sensitive user data your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares; and any parties with which any personal or sensitive user data is shared
  • secure data handling procedures for personal and sensitive user data
  • the developer’s data retention and deletion policy
  • clear labeling as a privacy policy (e.g., listed as “privacy policy” in title)
The entity (e.g., developer, company) named in the app’s Google Play listing must appear in the privacy policy or the app must be named in the privacy policy. Apps that do not access any personal and sensitive user data must still submit a privacy policy.

Please make sure your privacy policy is available on an active URL (no PDFs) and is non-editable.

So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
 

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Sad to see that this project has been discontinued. I bought a pro license as well to use FairEmail from Github downloads since I use GrapheneOS with no Google logins. Thankfully in a few months I'll no longer have a need for any university Microsoft or Google email accounts, so I'll be switching to K-9 Mail full-time. This is just another reason why no one anywhere should be using any major-name email providers like Yahoo, Google, or Microsoft considering their draconian practices from keeping FOSS app developers from using their services. If it is free...YOU are the product!
 

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Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":



So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
Yayy!! I am surprised they didn't make you a job offer😊.
So relieved!!
 

Brulsturm

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Marcel,

You asked for reasons to continue your work:

EXACTLY because of this! This shows (again) Google's true colors.
Only 1-2% of the users might get your app(s) from Github, but they are probably ones wich already freed themselves from Googles chains. And the ones that appreciate the true value of your work the most.

Your work, apps and attitude towards privacy is what keeps me believing I 'm on the right track, living Google-free (99%) for more than 7 years, or something now.
I could put it different: Thanks to apps like FairEmail it is possible for me in everyday life.
The more people discover what Google really is and that you can live whithout, the better.

Whatever you decide, thanks for your software! (and please don't quit)
 
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Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":



So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
This is the best news I've heard all day.

I'm not a developer and know a little bit of code but I do have a few Google Play Store questions. How long does it take them to approve your software? I also noticed when other developers announce an update it can take almost a week before I see it. Is the app rollouts controlled by the developer or is that too also controlled by google? If I'm seeking an update I wish Google would let us update it even if it is set to a staggered rollout. This is why I started using the GitHub version for one they were more current and second is because Google takes forever to roll out updates.
 

M66B

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This is the best news I've heard all day.

I'm not a developer and know a little bit of code but I do have a few Google Play Store questions. How long does it take them to approve your software? I also noticed when other developers announce an update it can take almost a week before I see it. Is the app rollouts controlled by the developer or is that too also controlled by google? If I'm seeking an update I wish Google would let us update it even if it is set to a staggered rollout. This is why I started using the GitHub version for one they were more current and second is because Google takes forever to roll out updates.
It works like this:
  • Developer uploads an update via the Play store developer console
  • Google scans the update and either approves or disapproves it
  • Google makes the app available in the Play store
This can take an hour or a week.
 

olifee

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I'm a bit late to this topic, but I also want to share my supportive words.

I'm a long-time pro user, and decided to support the project by going pro a few days after installation. I've never even once had any bad feeling about FairEmail. It's not only the most feature-rich client I know, it's also the most privacy oriented one, and it has the best support I have experienced.

I sometimes dream there would be a second Marcel on this planet developing an equally well-made mail client for desktops. FairEmail really goes to show that an application with high usability and a lot of features is not impossible on smartphones. This may be my personal ignorance of the plethora of apps our there, but I'm unaware of any other application which manages to pull that off — and is open source and privacy-oriented at the same time.
I'm just in love with FairEmail and the way it evolved and may still evolve, and I think I will always be. Thanks to Marcel for developing an app which handles the hundreds of mails thrown at me every day with ease, presents them to me in a way I can handle them, and makes my life easier to live. :)
 

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    You could also let the community handle this and focus on your personal life a bit more. :) Isn't that current 'manual' already on a collaborative platform? This community is awesome with stuff like that!
    The manual I linked to is maintained by disroot, an email provider.

    Here's a tutorial I just wrote as I found some spare time today, though. Any feedback is welcome (e.g. if something doesn't sound well phrased or something's missing)

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    I tried to address your suggestions, @xdaTanjiro & @heinhuiz. So here's a list of manuals for both the first configuration as well as various most common settings I could think of:


    The how-to on adding email accounts & identities manually is just sitting there to ensure the link works. It has no useful content yet.

    cc: @M66B

    --
    Hi, selecting a theme is even more simpler by using the three dots menu. But anyway, your tutorial is great
    Yes, but I would rather keep it out of a newbies' tutorial for a few reasons:
    • this way, the user gets in touch with the settings and understands better that they can adjust the app to his own needs
    • it only works in the "start screen" (e.g. unified inbox). If you open a folder within a account, it won't appear there. That will likely confuse newbies.

    IMO, it's best to show things that always work the same way to avoid misunderstandings and unnecessary questions.

    P.S.: The tutorials where gone a few mins as I was just busy rebasing to avoid unecessary conflicts in case of a merge.
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    Just a appreciation post to Mr.Champ here i.e. Marcel . I am your fan man. I don't know maybe for people fairmail is great app of yours's but personally , Xprivacy/Lua is the legendary app ever created for android. Android is incomplete for me without it. Nobody gives a sh#t about privacy and only few percentage of people do and you did win hearts of those people. Huge respect for you. I wish you never leave this project and get every support you need for this.
    I wish for all the positivity and good things for you young man. May god give talent powerhouse everything you deserve.
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    The manual I linked to is maintained by disroot, an email provider.

    Here's a tutorial I just wrote as I found some spare time today, though. Any feedback is welcome (e.g. if something doesn't sound well phrased or something's missing)

    Very professionally done! Appreciate your effort to a better FE community 🤗

    If I were to suggest one thing, is the screenshots can have the red ⭕ indicator like the guide on disroot for more clarity to non tech savvy users on where to click.

    Thank you!
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    The manual I linked to is maintained by disroot, an email provider.

    Here's a tutorial I just wrote as I found some spare time today, though. Any feedback is welcome (e.g. if something doesn't sound well phrased or something's missing)

    Great tutorial for initial setup!

    Maybe you can explain more about the Settings, how they are divided into tabs, and why they contain normal and advanced settings. Also mention that any setting that might involve privacy risks, i.e. private information to be 'leaked', has a clear warning.
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    Version 1.1923 1.1924 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    The option to suppress notifications while on a call (recently added) has been replaced by delaying notifications until after having ended the call instead. This way there isn't a risk that important new messages will be missed or seen too late. This option is available on Android 12 and later only because earlier Android versions do not have the requires APIs.
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    Quite some people asked my opinion about Thunderbird / K9 mail joining.

    I wish them good luck because we need privacy friendly apps. The author of K9 mail seems a nice guy to me, and even contributed a few lines of code and some constructive feedback to FairEmail. I hope he'll find a nice place in the Mozilla organization.

    That said, the concept of FairEmail is somewhat different than of Thunderbird / K9 mail. One of the things I read about is deep integration between the Thunderbird desktop / mobile app. The concept of FairEmail is to be standalone and not to depend on any service. Maybe in some way the apps are competitors, depending on the way you look at them, but in the end the goal is similar, offering a decent and privacy friendly app, at least I hope that this keeps being the goal of Mozilla. Of course a lot more can be said, but the apps just have a different character, which you might or might not like.
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    Version 1.1906 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    Thanks @Rtxda for testing!
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    Version 1.1907 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    Version 1.1914 1.1915 is available on GitHub now.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    All changes required or desired for Android 13 have been done now.
    Now that this has been done and given my personal situation, there will be bug fix releases only for now.
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    See here for screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    Please read this before requesting a new feature:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-get-support

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.
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    How was the call with Google today, Marcel?

    Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":

    Privacy Policy​

    All apps must post a privacy policy in both the designated field in Play Console and within the app itself. The privacy policy must, together with any in-app disclosures, comprehensively disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data, not limited by the data disclosed in the Data Safety section. This must include:
    • developer information and a privacy point of contact or a mechanism to submit inquiries
    • disclosing the types of personal and sensitive user data your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares; and any parties with which any personal or sensitive user data is shared
    • secure data handling procedures for personal and sensitive user data
    • the developer’s data retention and deletion policy
    • clear labeling as a privacy policy (e.g., listed as “privacy policy” in title)
    The entity (e.g., developer, company) named in the app’s Google Play listing must appear in the privacy policy or the app must be named in the privacy policy. Apps that do not access any personal and sensitive user data must still submit a privacy policy.

    Please make sure your privacy policy is available on an active URL (no PDFs) and is non-editable.

    So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

    I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

    Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

    The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
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    Version 1.1900 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval (which is the main goal of this release).

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    My girlfriend is slowly recovering too :)
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.