[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

[zecabra]

You can collapse the accounts section as a whole only, not per account.

So here is a suggestion for a new feature, I think it would be very useful, thank you for your availability

 

[M66B]

So here is a suggestion for a new feature, I think it would be very useful, thank you for your availability

You are the first one ever asked for this and besides that I think it will be confusing in combination of the existing collapse/expand.

 

[zecabra]

You are the first one ever asked for this and besides that I think it will be confusing in combination of the existing collapse/expand.

I explain the reason for the suggestion, the folders I have to add are not many but they are enough so that the other accounts below are out of the visible area of the screen, so whenever I want to check what is going on with one of those accounts I have to scroll down, with the expand and collapse option I could quickly bring the other accounts to the visible area of the screen

 

[M66B]

I explain the reason for the suggestion, the folders I have to add are not many but they are enough so that the other accounts below are out of the visible area of the screen, so whenever I want to check what is going on with one of those accounts I have to scroll down, with the expand and collapse option I could quickly bring the other accounts to the visible area of the screen

Try to collapse the accounts section once.

 

[zecabra]

Try to collapse the accounts section once.

Problem solved with this suggestion, although I think the accounts collapse and expand would be a better implementation, I don't know how people can find this confusing, I'm not young anymore, I'm over 50 and this is the option that seems intuitive to me, again, thanks for your patience and support

 

[M66B]

Problem solved with this suggestion, although I think the accounts collapse and expand would be a better implementation, I don't know how people can find this confusing, I'm not young anymore, I'm over 50 and this is the option that seems intuitive to me, again, thanks for your patience and support

I might be older ;-)

 

[de_Wolf]

... I'm not young anymore, I'm over 50 ...

No longer young? This is an observation from the perspective of age. I will soon be 65 years old, for me you are damn young!

 

[zecabra]

No longer young? This is an observation from the perspective of age. I will soon be 65 years old, for me you are damn young!

The reason I mentioned age is because the younger generation tends to think that we of the older generation have difficulty with certain concepts associated with software, in the case I mentioned a hierarchical folder structure I think is a concept that everyone understands, but the developer must have had enough complaints to mention that it would be confusing for certain people

 

[de_Wolf]

The reason I mentioned age is because the younger generation tends to think that we of the older generation have difficulty with certain concepts associated with software, in the case I mentioned a hierarchical folder structure I think is a concept that everyone understands, but the developer must have had enough complaints to mention that it would be confusing for certain people

That's what I thought, it was just a joke!

 

[lvmm]

Hi,

A couple of questions I couldn't find answers for:
1. Message reformatting is enabled, and each message is preceded with an elaborate 4-line discourse on what reformatting is, why I need it and what I am to do with it. Ok, seen it. How can I permanently hide it?
2. I've set up multiple folders on IMAP account to sync, but receiving notifications about new messages only in inbox, but not in other synced folders. Is there a way to set up notifications for all new messages?

 

[M66B]

Hi,

A couple of questions I couldn't find answers for:
1. Message reformatting is enabled, and each message is preceded with an elaborate 4-line discourse on what reformatting is, why I need it and what I am to do with it. Ok, seen it. How can I permanently hide it?
2. I've set up multiple folders on IMAP account to sync, but receiving notifications about new messages only in inbox, but not in other synced folders. Is there a way to set up notifications for all new messages?

1. Tap once on the "[ ]" button.
2. Long press on a folder in the folder list of the account (tap on the account name in the navigation menu = left side menu) and there will be an option to enable/disable new message notifications.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

Synchronizing a folder will respect the sync/keep settings.

Strictly speaking that is true. On a test folder, with 5/5 for sync/keep, syncing the folder results in the display 0/3 for the folder content (ie zero messages downloaded and 3 headers fetched).
But the moment I open the folder (just open it... no browse gesture)... more than 35 messages for months back are downloaded. This chimes with this quote:

Browse will fill the screen and prefetch about one screen more to reduce the waiting time. This could mean that older messages are being fetched.

although I didn't browse, I simply opened the folder.

I am afraid programmes that on their own overrule options explicitly given by the user are rarely my cup of tea though I will admit that this is not a major problem. Anyway, I will further investigate whether I can get this to work the way I like (so as to keep my folders in the shipshape state I like them to be in).

Now for something completely differently: I have started out with the f-droid version of FE. I will want to switch to the github release, that was why I asked about the ability to export/import across machines and versions. That seems to work but now I have another question re export/import: in what file format are data exported? Some textual standard like XML, JSON or similar or as a binary blob?

 

[M66B]

Strictly speaking that is true. On a test folder, with 5/5 for sync/keep, syncing the folder results in the display 0/3 for the folder content (ie zero messages downloaded and 3 headers fetched).
But the moment I open the folder (just open it... no browse gesture)... more than 35 messages for months back are downloaded. This chimes with this quote:

although I didn't browse, I simply opened the folder.

I am afraid programmes that on their own overrule options explicitly given by the user are rarely my cup of tea though I will admit that this is not a major problem. Anyway, I will further investigate whether I can get this to work the way I like (so as to keep my folders in the shipshape state I like them to be in).

Now for something completely differently: I have started out with the f-droid version of FE. I will want to switch to the github release, that was why I asked about the ability to export/import across machines and versions. That seems to work but now I have another question re export/import: in what file format are data exported? Some textual standard like XML, JSON or similar or as a binary blob?

Browsing by scrolling down won't work if you can't scroll down, so there needs to be at least a screen full of messages plus a little more to be able to scroll. So, this is not a developers' choice in itself, but a requirement of the feature.

The export file is an encrypted JSON file, please see here for the encryption method:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq36

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

Browsing by scrolling down won't work if you can't scroll down, so there needs to be at least a screen full of messages plus a little more to be able to scroll. So, this is not a developers' choice in itself, but a requirement of the feature.

I am afraid we'll simply have to agree to disagree on that one. You as the dev have full control of whether you load further messages or not (if "Browse" is off in the account options then nothing is downloaded on folder opening, so this is clearly not an absolute requirement).

I've "solved" this for the time being by deactivating "Browse" in the account options for all accounts and instead using "Fetch more message" in the three dots menu for those folder where I want to see more message than synced.

The export file is an encrypted JSON file, please see here for the encryption method:

I'll take it that means that decrypting and manually editing the settings is not possible. A pity.

 

[M66B]

I am afraid we'll simply have to agree to disagree on that one. You as the dev have full control of whether you load further messages or not (if "Browse" is off in the account options then nothing is downloaded on folder opening, so this is clearly not an absolute requirement).

I've "solved" for the time being this by deactivating "Browse" in the account options for all accounts and instead using "Fetch more message" in the three dots menu for those folder where I want to see more message than synced.

I'll take it that means that decrypting and manually editing the settings is not possible. A pity.

I like to hear how it can be made possible to browse by scrolling down if there is only one message on the screen.

Editing of settings files isn't supported because that would inevitably result in many questions and I already get enough questions, several thousands every month.

 

[M66B]

The latest F-Droid build is more than a week old and has a number of known bugs. This is problematic regarding support. Basically, I can't help you if you have a problem caused by a bug.

If email is important for you, better use the GitHub version instead.

Note that you cannot update the F-Droid build with a GitHub release without reinstalling.

Please check this FAQ too:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq147

 

[M66B]

1 star Polish review:

This is the worst business app I've ever used. And I was using it for few years and every time it failed I promised myself it's the last time. Well, this is the last time. I uninstall it and will be paying for AquaMail which I've been using also for several years now. The difference is I didn't pay and I paid for FairEmail because I thought it's so bad because of free version. But nothing changed after the payment. Still some emails can't be sent, still very often the emails can't be downloaded.

Never asked for support, never updated, has version 1.889 from 2-3 years ago installed.

 

[deechte]

I have a kind request for uniform Move To behavior.

When tapping the Move To button in an opened message, I am presented with the list of folders within that account where I can choose a destination.

When selecting multiple messages, and then tapping the Move To button in the floating button menu, I am first offered a choice of accounts and thereafter the folder list to choose a destination.

I'd find it more satisfying if both flows would behave the same. Ideally both would directly present me the folder list, to save a step. It's not very often that I need to move a message to another account's folder. But it would be nice if the folder list would offer a button to change account nonetheless, in case you might need to move across accounts.

I hope this sounds logical to you as well Marcel.

 

[M66B]

I have a kind request for uniform Move To behavior.

When tapping the Move To button in an opened message, I am presented with the list of folders within that account where I can choose a destination.

When selecting multiple messages, and then tapping the Move To button in the floating button menu, I am first offered a choice of accounts and thereafter the folder list to choose a destination.

I'd find it more satisfying if both flows would behave the same. Ideally both would directly present me the folder list, to save a step. It's not very often that I need to move a message to another account's folder. But it would be nice if the folder list would offer a button to change account nonetheless, in case you might need to move across accounts.

I hope this sounds logical to you as well Marcel.

There will be an account selection only if you selected messages of different accounts.

 

[deechte]

There will be an account selection only if you selected messages of different accounts.

Im selecting messages of the same inbox from the same account. I'm not even using a unified inbox. I always get the account selector first.

Edit: I even get it with one selected message.

Edit2: wouldn't that also mean that moving across accounts should be impossible?