[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

[deechte]

There is a difference between moving one opened message and multiple selected messages. In the case of a single message moving within the same account is much more logical.

Another idea then: in my case I use inboxes per account, not unified, so a bunch of selected messages is always from the same account. Hence my objection against the account selector. Maybe this selector could only be used in case of a unified inbox?

Or we can stop talking about it

 

[M66B]

Another idea then: in my case I use inboxes per account, not unified, so a bunch of selected messages is always from the same account. Hence my objection against the account selector. Maybe this selector could only be used in case of a unified inbox?

Or we can stop talking about it

Tomorrow you might be asking for another option to move across accounts. I think the current solution is okay. One extra tap for multiple selected messages means more flexibility.

 

[heberjeur]

Hi, can you @M66B add K9 Mail OAuth method, I don't use google play service and I don't want to relay my activities to google services, it's more private I think, you can see the attached screen record how K9 do it.

 

[M66B]

Hi, can you @M66B add K9 Mail OAuth method, I don't use google play service and I don't want to relay my activities to google services, it's more private I think, you can see the attached screen record how K9 do it.

OAuth is supported via the quick setup wizard.

If you are looking for a web OAuth flow, you can get this if you sponsor me $75,000 yearly, so there can be a yearly security audit, which is a requirement of Google:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq111

Everything is there to implement this, which can be done in under one hour.

Note that you can use an app password too (FAQ #6).

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

I'm slowly familiarising myself with FE. I suspect I am not among the most typical users. For instance, I am very strict with what and when email is downloaded, ie I have no automatic checking, no background downloads, no notifications when new mail has arrived etc.

Also I have seven most-used accounts and again, I am very strict in how I deal with them, so in all my email clients the first thing I disable (if it's implemented) is Unified inboxes.

This seems to be broken though. I have no folder at all (no inboxes and no other folders) defined as "unified" and yet I see all inbox messages of my accounts in a unified inbox (I don't have to open it, granted but this feels still like something that shouldn't happen). Either there's an option I've overlooked or again this doesn't work as I think it should (aside: in 1.1927, if the Settings are open, search for "unif" and you'll see what I think is a nonsensical entry, triggered by the word "uniform").

Second problem. As I never sync automatically (and I have also switched off sync at start) I have to sync manually and as explained that's precisely how I want it. However, I can't do that as easily as it could be (IMO). If the list of accounts is shown I see no immediate option in the top bar to sync (just Search, Unified folder (which I never use) and the three-dot menu), so I have to open the menu and tap Force sync. If the folder list is shown, again I see no option in the top bar to sync, so again I have to open the three-dot menu. And finally if an Inbox folder is open... you probably get my point.

Last but not least (for the moment ) I'd really like a visual colour hint in which account I am currently when the folder list is shown. Perhaps there's an option for that but if so I haven't found it.

Thanks for looking into this.

 

[M66B]

I'm slowly familiarising myself with FE. I suspect I am not among the most typical users. For instance, I am very strict with what and when email is downloaded, ie I have no automatic checking, no background downloads, no notifications when new mail has arrived etc.

Also I have seven most-used accounts and again, I am very strict in how I deal with them, so in all my email clients the first thing I disable (if it's implemented) is Unified inboxes.

This seems to be broken though. I have no folder at all (no inboxes and no other folders) defined as "unified" and yet I see all inbox messages of my accounts in a unified inbox (I don't have to open it, granted but this feels still like something that shouldn't happen). Either there's an option I've overlooked or again this doesn't work as I think it should (aside: in 1.1927, if the Settings are open, search for "unif" and you'll see what I think is a nonsensical entry, triggered by the word "uniform").

Second problem. As I never sync automatically (and I have also switched off sync at start) I have to sync manually and as explained that's precisely how I want it. However, I can't do that as easily as it could be (IMO). If the list of accounts is shown I see no immediate option in the top bar to sync (just Search, Unified folder (which I never use) and the three-dot menu), so I have to open the menu and tap Force sync. If the folder list is shown, again I see no option in the top bar to sync, so again I have to open the three-dot menu. And finally if an Inbox folder is open... you probably get my point.

Last but not least (for the moment ) I'd really like a visual colour hint in which account I am currently when the folder list is shown. Perhaps there's an option for that but if so I haven't found it.

Thanks for looking into this.

You can enable/disable showing a folder in the unified inbox by long pressing the folder in the folder list of an account (tap on the account name in the navigation menu).

You can synchronize message by pulling down the list of accounts, folders or messages. You can also sync a single folder by long pressing it. Note that pulling down the list of accounts (not the one in the navigation menu) will sync the unified inbox folders.

Guess is that your want to change the start screen to either accounts or unified folders (not the same as unified inbox) in the display settings.

Edit: if it doesn't work in the specific way you expect it to work, it doesn't mean there are bugs.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

You can enable/disable showing a folder in the unified inbox by long pressing the folder in the folder list of an account (tap on the account name in the navigation menu).

Yes, I know. As I wrote I have DISABLED all unified boxes. NO FOLDER (and certainly NO inbox) has the flag "Show in unified inbox" set and yet all messages from all accounts show in what I suppose is the unified inbox.

My start screen is already the account list but I don't understand what

unified folders (not the same as unified inbox)

means.

 

[M66B]

Yes, I know. As I wrote I have DISABLED all unified boxes. NO FOLDER (and certainly NO inbox) has the flag "Show in unified inbox" set and yet all messages from all accounts show in what I suppose is the unified inbox.

My start screen is already the account list but I don't understand what

means.

Please post a screenshot of what you suppose is the unified inbox. In any case, if no folder is marked as unified inbox, the unified inbox will be empty.

Edit: also tell me how you navigate to it.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

I simply swipe to open the left-hand menu.

 

[M66B]

I simply swipe to open the left-hand menu.

This are the unified system folders and they can't be disabled, only collapsed.

Unified system folders = all folders of the same type (inboxes, sent messages, etc). This is independent of the selected unified inbox folders, which don't need to be inboxes either.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

This are the unified system folders and they can't be disabled, only collapsed.

Unified system folders = all folders of the same type (inboxes, sent messages, etc). This is independent of the selected unified inbox folders, which don't need to be inboxes either.

I see. Well, in my work flow, these are an abomination. I am starting to think the way FE works is not compatible with the way my brain works (or sometimes doesn't ).

Final question: in the menu that opens when long-pressing a folder there's an entry "Subscribe"? What does that mean?

 

[M66B]

I see. Well, in my work flow, these are an abomination. I am starting to think the way FE works is not compatible with the way my brain works (or sometimes doesn't ).

Final question: in the menu that opens when long-pressing a folder there's an entry "Subscribe"? What does that mean?

"Subscribed" is an IMAP feature to mark a folder as being more important. The definition is rather vague, but the subscribed state will be stored on the email (IMAP) server. FairEmail allows you to filter on subscribed folders via the three dots overflow menu of a folder list.

The app is pretty versatile, so it will be usable for 99% of the users. If you don't need the navigation menu items to go to the unified system folders, just don't use it. Other people, including myself, use this rather frequently though.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

Additionally, while there are many FAQs answered on the github site, FE is IMO sorely in need of a piece of documentation that explains some of the basics (and the thinking behind it).

 

[M66B]

Additionally, while there are many FAQs answered on the github site, FE is IMO sorely in need of a piece of documentation that explains some of the basics (and the thinking behind it).

People hardly read documentation anymore these days, not even if there are problems. So, IMHO it isn't worth to put effort into this.

Writing documentation like this and keeping it up to date is a significant amount of work, which I rather put into development instead.

Edit: I am all for decent documentation, which the FAQ also reflects. So, it isn't that I am too lazy to write it.

To support this with facts: you are maybe the fifth person asking for this in over three years.

 

[TooMuchSloeGin]

Some people RTFM.

And I specifically wrote "some of the basics (and the thinking behind it)." This doesn't change all the time, I hope and suppose.

But hey, no problem. I will adjust my expectations and not bother you with unhelpful suggestions.

 

[M66B]

Some people RTFM.

And I specifically wrote "some of the basics (and the thinking behind it)." This doesn't change all the time, I hope and suppose.

But hey, no problem. I will adjust my expectations and not bother you with unhelpful suggestions.

I really tried to help you and I did explain why I think writing such documentation isn't useful, but this doesn't sound nice. Why?

 

[M66B]

Answering questions here feels like a waste of time right now.

Your old and grumpy developer aka drama queen is going to take a longer break from answering questions here.

 

[ouzowtf]

Yes, I know. As I wrote I have DISABLED all unified boxes. NO FOLDER (and certainly NO inbox) has the flag "Show in unified inbox" set and yet all messages from all accounts show in what I suppose is the unified inbox.

My start screen is already the account list but I don't understand what

means.

You could change the unified inbox to show the account list instead in the view settings. At least that's what I understood what you want to see when starting the app.

 

[mkasimd]

Some people RTFM.

And I specifically wrote "some of the basics (and the thinking behind it)." This doesn't change all the time, I hope and suppose.

But hey, no problem. I will adjust my expectations and not bother you with unhelpful suggestions.

There is an independent tutorial on the basic configurations here:

Mobile Clients: FairEmail | Howto Disroot

Howtos, tutorials to help you use services provided by disroot.org

howto.disroot.org

Feel free to use this if you need a tutorial.

 

[xdaTanjiro]

There is an independent tutorial on the basic configurations here:

Mobile Clients: FairEmail | Howto Disroot

Howtos, tutorials to help you use services provided by disroot.org

howto.disroot.org

Feel free to use this if you need a tutorial.

This is quite a nice guide with all the screenshots for a newbie to follow