[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

[mkasimd]

So, not sure if a bug came up from an update recently but noticing weird behavior. When I try to sort by sender it no longer does so by display name but instead email addresses only making them hard to readily identify.

Even worse, after setting this sort mode going back to unread retains this - display names don't come back.

Version: 1.926a
Updated 7/2/22 1:49AM

Sorting by "Sender" is worded a bit unclear tbh, "Sender name" and "Sender address" would be better in order to understand the intended behavior.

Other than that, I can confirm that in 1.929a (GitHub) too, the behavior is as you describe it. Whether that was different in earlier versions or not, I cannot confirm as I never use that feature.

While I was looking at my version no. under "about" I noticed something. Under "Contributors", the Finnish translation misses the term "translation". Same with Portuguese. That's not a real issue, but it's probably best for each line to have the same wording and offer the same level of information.

 

[M66B]

So, not sure if a bug came up from an update recently but noticing weird behavior. When I try to sort by sender it no longer does so by display name but instead email addresses only making them hard to readily identify.

Even worse, after setting this sort mode going back to unread retains this - display names don't come back.

Version: 1.926a
Updated 7/2/22 1:49AM

Sort on sender was always on email address and this is because the sort order would be ambiguous if a name is missing, which is rather often the case.

Sorting on time again, the default, shows the names again for me. Sort on read shows the names again too.

In any case, there were no changes related to this in recent versions, in fact not for a very long time.

 

[zinjashike]

Sort on sender was always on email address and this is because the sort order would be ambiguous if a name is missing, which is rather often the case.

Sorting on time again, the default, shows the names again for me. Sort on read shows the names again too.

In any case, there were no changes related to this in recent versions, in fact not for a very long time.

This is weird then, because that's never how it worked for me. It always stuck to display names before, for example "touch of modern" would all group together as would "drop", "twitter", and other places that tend to send lots of emails.

To confirm are you saying that this sort method should show the email and NOT the display name like it used to for me? That the prior way I was having it work was a bug?

 

[M66B]

This is weird then, because that's never how it worked for me. It always stuck to display names before, for example "touch of modern" would all group together as would "drop", "twitter", and other places that tend to send lots of emails.

I don't know about recent versions, I tend to shut-off auto-updates because of bug regressions when stuff works properly and now I have an update with a bad sorting method. You would not believe how many emails begin with "info" for example - completely useless in the large scheme if that's how it was ever intended.

Sorting on sender was always on email address and this was never changed. Sorting on name just doesn't work. First name/last name reversed, missing names, etc make the sort order ambiguous. An email address is a constant on the other hand.

Maybe you want to search for similar messages instead. You can do this with the magnifier glass in the collapsible addresses section between the message header and message text. If you use this frequently, you can add a button for this via the horizontal three dots menu just above the message text near the left side.

Sorting to find messages is generally not the most efficient way to find messages, unless you have a few dozen messages on your device only.

 

[zinjashike]

Sorting on sender was always on email address and this was never changed. Sorting on name just doesn't work. First name/last name reversed, missing names, etc make the sort order ambiguous. An email address is a constant on the other hand.

Maybe you want to search for similar messages instead. You can do this with the magnifier glass in the collapsible addresses section between the message header and message text. If you use this frequently, you can add a button for this via the horizontal three dots menu just above the message text near the left side.

Sorting to find messages is generally not the most efficient way to find messages, unless you have a few dozen messages on your device only.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, so let me confirm.

I get that the emails were sorted by address. But in the list for me it always displayed the display names rather than the email address. I have been using that functionality for over a year and had originally got this through the Play store. For example, let's say I get a bunch of random emails from Twitter, Drop, ToM, Quara, etc. They would all be grouped together based on their email address, but would be listed by display name.

To confirm, you're saying that under this sort method display name should never have been visible? So rather than Buffalo Wild Wings it would be [email protected]? Because that's never how it worked for me before and today it started acting weird.

So basically either something regressed or I hit the luckiest bug in the world for a year because it worked perfectly for me.

 

[M66B]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, so let me confirm.

I get that the emails were sorted by address. But in the list for me it always displayed the display names rather than the email address. I have been using that functionality for over a year and had originally got this through the Play store. For example, let's say I get a bunch of random emails from Twitter, Drop, ToM, Quara, etc. They would all be grouped together based on their email address, but would be listed by display name.

To confirm, you're saying that under this sort method display name should never have been visible? So rather than Buffalo Wild Wings it would be [email protected]? Because that's never how it worked for me before and today it started acting weird.

So basically either something regressed or I hit the luckiest bug in the world for a year because it worked perfectly for me.

This isn't a bug and it was changed about two months ago in version 1.1893 as a result of complaints about the visual sort order (names) not reflecting the real sort order (email addresses).

A compromise might be to show the email address and the name (so, reversed). If you are interested in a test version with this, please contact me via this form:

FairCode - contact

FairEmail, NetGuard, XPrivacyLua support

contact.faircode.eu

 

[M66B]

The tutorials as created by @mkasimd are live now:

FairEmail/tutorials at master · M66B/FairEmail

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - FairEmail/tutorials at master · M66B/FairEmail

github.com

The tutorials are being referenced from the FAQ, the contact form and from the settings screen in the next version of the app.

If you are a native English speaker, can you please check if the spelling/style is okay?

 

[asalamm]

thanks for sharing!

 

[mailm]

Great app
Thanks for everything

 

[M66B]

If you are using a Redme Note device, please read this:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#redmi

The next version will actively warn about this.

 

[M66B]

The dark original message view will stop working for Android before version 10, about which I complained about in this issue:

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/237785596

(requires a Google login)

The next version of the app will show a message about this.

 

[Will_T]

The tutorials as created by @mkasimd are live now:

If you are a native English speaker, can you please check if the spelling/style is okay?

The following tutorials describe how to configure FairEmail as well as how to modify the settings for your own requirements. FairEmail offers many options you can always explore yourself within the app or in the FAQ article. The tutorials here will only cover the basics that should suffice for most users.

NOTE: If you have any troubles, check this extensive FAQ. You may also ask in this XDA Forum thread or via this contact form. Bad reviews won't help you or the developer, so please try asking in person first.​

Just a couple suggestions from the intro page. If I see anything when I read the tutorials themselves, I will email those to you directly.

 

[M66B]

The following tutorials describe how to configure FairEmail as well as how to modify the settings for your own requirements. FairEmail offers many options you can always explore yourself within the app or in the FAQ article. The tutorials here will only cover the basics that should suffice for most users.

NOTE: If you have any troubles, check this extensive FAQ. You may also ask in this XDA Forum thread or via this contact form. Bad reviews won't help you or the developer, so please try asking in person first.​

Just a couple suggestions from the intro page. If I see anything when I read the tutorials themselves, I will email those to you directly.

Updated, thanks!

FairEmail/tutorials at master · M66B/FairEmail

Fully featured, open source, privacy friendly email app for Android - FairEmail/tutorials at master · M66B/FairEmail

github.com

 

[Will_T]

@M66B I saw only a few minor change suggestions in the tutorials but I could not get your contact form to accept the text with the formatting I used. So, I can post them here and then can delete the post once you copy it. Or, if there is another way to get to you, just let me know.

 

[M66B]

@M66B I saw only a few minor change suggestions in the tutorials but I could not get your contact form to accept the text with the formatting I used. So, I can post them here and then can delete the post once you copy it. Or, if there is another way to get to you, just let me know.

Please contact me via the form, I will reply and you can reply again with an email ;-)

FairCode - contact

FairEmail, NetGuard, XPrivacyLua support

contact.faircode.eu

 

[Will_T]

Please contact me via the form, I will reply and you can reply again with an email ;-)

FairCode - contact

FairEmail, NetGuard, XPrivacyLua support

contact.faircode.eu

Done.

 

[fraschi51]

If you are using a Redme Note device, please read this:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#redmi

The next version will actively warn about this.

Does the mentioned possible data loss happen only on the device or also on the server?

 

[M66B]

Does the mentioned possible data loss happen only on the device or also on the server?

Only on the device, unless a POP3 account is being used with the option 'Leave messages on server' disabled.

I have clarified this in the FAQ:

https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#redmi

Thanks!

 

[mkasimd]

Does the mentioned possible data loss happen only on the device or also on the server?

SQLite is used by FairEmail as the app's local database. A data loss within there should not result in any data loss within the server. If that was the case, it'd be a huge bug within the FairEmail on top of the bug in Redmi Note (as deleting in the server requires an IMAP command being sent to the email server), and we can trust that Marcel would have communicated and fixed it already if that was the case

With POP3, the messages are possibly deleted right after downloading the message. So if the data within the device is lost, the messages are lost for all eternity then. Because there are no messages stored in the server then.

Advice: use IMAP whenever possible

 

[M66B]

SQLite is used by FairEmail as the app's local database. A data loss within there should not result in any data loss within the server. If that was the case, it'd be a huge bug within the FairEmail on top of the bug in Redmi Note (as deleting in the server requires an IMAP command being sent to the email server), and we can trust that Marcel would have communicated and fixed it already if that was the case

With POP3, the messages are possibly deleted right after downloading the message. So if the data within the device is lost, the messages are lost for all eternity then. Because there are no messages stored in the server then.

Advice: use IMAP whenever possible

In addition: sqlite is the Android database system. FairEmail comes with a recent sqlite library because on older devices / Android versions there are often pretty old sqlite binaries with known and sometimes critical bugs. FairEmail links for this to the requery/sqlite-android project. You'll find some commit of me in this project as well.

sqlite is a pretty amazing piece of software!