[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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Samare

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If that's an option, you may also want to check what your mother eats.
https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=cancer is a good start point, with information based on studies.

About the (few) negative feedback on Google Play, to put them into perspective, let's compare the Gmail app reviews (an app optimized for their own service):

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to the FairEmail reviews:

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As you can see, negative reviews barely register for FaireEmail and could even be considered as normal noise.

"Haters gonna hate", it's scientifically proven:
The present research demonstrated that some people tend to like things, whereas others tend to dislike things
 

M66B

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If that's an option, you may also want to check what your mother eats.
https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=cancer is a good start point, with information based on studies.
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Maybe amazing, but I have a certificate as a natural health practitioner. My parents have been eating pretty healthy, also as a result of this. What might have caused my mom's cancer is HPV. Changing food won't help anymore now, as SCNEC is a pretty aggressive cancer (mean life expectancy after diagnosis = 1 month).

Thanks for pointing to these studies anyway. Cancer is horrible and it is still rather difficult to help people with cancer, so maybe this is good advice for others. Don't think it won't happen to you, the hard fact is that 1 in 3 people will face cancer. The simple advice is to prepare your own food and to avoid processed food. Pesticides are linked to Parkinson (also horrible), breast cancer, etc, so pay a little more for organic food if you can. Also important is to take care of a healthy environment (clean water, clean air, etc). We all probably know better, but:

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x2k13

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If that's an option, you may also want to check what your mother eats.
https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=cancer is a good start point, with information based on studies.

About the (few) negative feedback on Google Play, to put them into perspective, let's compare the Gmail app reviews (an app optimized for their own service):

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to the FairEmail reviews:

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As you can see, negative reviews barely register for FaireEmail and could even be considered as normal noise.

"Haters gonna hate", it's scientifically proven:
A few days ago I downvoted and reported all the 1 star reviews that really just didn't have an explanation why they think the app is not good, instead just insults and false info, apparently because they're too stupid to Google stuff, or even read the FAQ. Looks like it at least helped a bit. 🙂
 

M66B

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Since I need a distraction anyway, I am trying to get a web OAuth flow for Gmail accounts approved by Google because it seems the policies were changed for this type of authentication. K9 mail was approved too, without the expensive security audit formerly required. This would allow authenticating Gmail accounts via OAuth without an on-device account.
 

harrisc

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I am using android 11 and Play Store version of Fairemail. I am using EAS Easy App Switcher (https://m.apkpure.com/eas-easy-app-switcher/com.echoff.easyswitch) which has not being updated for several years.

I read my emails and the articles associated with links in the emails in 2 ways.

1. I click on the link which then opens in my browser (Vivaldi). After reading the article I click the Android back button and I am back in my original email at the same position.

2. Secondly I click on a link, it opens in my browser and then I jump back to FairEmail via EAS by clicking the floating icon; 1 click and I am back in my original email at the same position. Then repeat this 1 or more times so that I have several links from the email open at once with minimal window swapping.

This all worked until about a month ago; method 2 stopped working. In 2 when I clicked the EAS icon I didn't go back to the email but the inbox.

I tried another app switcher with same result.

As EAS has not being updated has something in FairEmail changed?
How can I get the original behaviour back?

Chris
 

m0d

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Since I need a distraction anyway, I am trying to get a web OAuth flow for Gmail accounts approved by Google because it seems the policies were changed for this type of authentication. K9 mail was approved too, without the expensive security audit formerly required. This would allow authenticating Gmail accounts via OAuth without an on-device account.
Great news.
That would be wonderful.
If all goes well I can re-enable gmail account on fE.
 

M66B

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I am using android 11 and Play Store version of Fairemail. I am using EAS Easy App Switcher (https://m.apkpure.com/eas-easy-app-switcher/com.echoff.easyswitch) which has not being updated for several years.

I read my emails and the articles associated with links in the emails in 2 ways.

1. I click on the link which then opens in my browser (Vivaldi). After reading the article I click the Android back button and I am back in my original email at the same position.

2. Secondly I click on a link, it opens in my browser and then I jump back to FairEmail via EAS by clicking the floating icon; 1 click and I am back in my original email at the same position. Then repeat this 1 or more times so that I have several links from the email open at once with minimal window swapping.

This all worked until about a month ago; method 2 stopped working. In 2 when I clicked the EAS icon I didn't go back to the email but the inbox.

I tried another app switcher with same result.

As EAS has not being updated has something in FairEmail changed?
How can I get the original behaviour back?

Chris
In the link confirmation dialog, please make sure you select the browser without the "external" icon. External or standalone means also that a new task is being started, resulting in "disconnecting" the app and the browser.
 

harrisc

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In the link confirmation dialog, please make sure you select the browser without the "external" icon. External or standalone means also that a new task is being started, resulting in "disconnecting" the app and the browser.
Thanks for the response. I use FairEmail with the PRIVACY option "confirm opening links" off. When I click on a link I go straight to the link webpage. When I turn this option on I then get a choice of an internal page or external page. If I choose the external page I go back to the folder list and not the original email. If I choose the internal browser I get same result; neither way can I open links and go back to the original email with one click on EAS.

Am I looking at the correct option?
 

M66B

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Thanks for the response. I use FairEmail with the PRIVACY option "confirm opening links" off. When I click on a link I go straight to the link webpage. When I turn this option on I then get a choice of an internal page or external page. If I choose the external page I go back to the folder list and not the original email. If I choose the internal browser I get same result; neither way can I open links and go back to the original email with one click on EAS.

Am I looking at the correct option?
Maybe you need to use 'Select app' instead of the browser?
 

M66B

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A German 1 star review because Android doesn't accept the password of an S/MIME certificate. Right, this is not related to the app in any way. Common sense is these days uncommon sense.
 
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    Hmmm... I followed the instructions (reset questions and enabled confirming links) which let me select Firefox custom tabs. That now opens links in a Firefox custom tab as expected. I disabled confirming links again because I don't want to click through dialogues every time I open a link. But now every link I click opens in a Firefox custom tab - it's no longer asking me which browser I want to use (I don't set a default browser in Android because different sites have different preferred browsers). Is there a way to set it up so that I'll still get the Android browser selection dialogue, but have FairEmail use a custom tab with whichever browser I pick?

    Thanks :)
    You can set in Android as browser default the app 'BetterOpenWith' - so you cann select the browser you want in every case individual.

    Edit: You cannot have both: no asking but individual selecting.
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    That works! When I use "select app" without the "open" icon, Android asks me what browser to use and then uses a custom tab from that browser. When I turn off confirming links, the behaviour sticks and I can now open links in any custom tab from whatever browser that I choose each time I click a link. Thank you!!!

    Do I now have to do anything because I installed a Github version over top of my Playstore version?

    You don't have to do anything, but you could support the project with a donation:


    If you want to switch back to the Play store version, you can disable checking for GitHub updates in the miscellaneous setting tab page, which will result in updating to the next Play store version.
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    Hmmm... I followed the instructions (reset questions and enabled confirming links) which let me select Firefox custom tabs. That now opens links in a Firefox custom tab as expected. I disabled confirming links again because I don't want to click through dialogues every time I open a link. But now every link I click opens in a Firefox custom tab - it's no longer asking me which browser I want to use (I don't set a default browser in Android because different sites have different preferred browsers). Is there a way to set it up so that I'll still get the Android browser selection dialogue, but have FairEmail use a custom tab with whichever browser I pick?

    Thanks :)
    As far as I can see, the FAQ Marcel linked explains everything:

    If there is choice, Android will ask you how to open the link. You can select Always or Just Once. If you want to reset Always, please see here about how to.

    If you ticked Do not ask this again for [domain name], you can undo this by using the Reset questions button in the miscellaneous settings tab page of the app.
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    QUESTION ABOUT FAIR EMAIL OPTIONS:
    Assuming the starting point of no on-device Google Account...

    Q: Which of these Fair Email Google mail server options is "most" private?

    1. 2SV/2FA (using any of a half dozen secondary methods), or,
    2. What Fair Email terms "GMail (Android)", or,
    3. What Fair Email terms "GMail (OAuth)".

    Note Marcel knows the answer, so he can instantly nip this tangent in the bud by answering that question in a single word... (where I suspect the answer is undoubtably #3 but others strongly think it's #1 apparently, so I could be wrong - but it's NEVER gonna be #2.

    The desired single word answer is "none". Google scans all your messages and you can only hope that the gathered information isn't used in an un-private way. Option 1 (assumed to be app passwords) and option 3 do not send extra information to Google. Option 2 requires an on-device Google account. You can control the sync options of a Google account via the Android settings. If these options work as expected and are turned off, no information should be sent to Google. This applies to all other Google services and apps, like Maps and Drive, too. You'll need to go into the settings and turn things off and trust that Google honors this.

    I expect to see no more messages about this subject anymore, with no exceptions for anyone. If you want to continue discussing about this, you should create a new XDA thread for this.
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    The next version will have optionally VirusTotal integration, so you can check attachments easily:

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    Version 1.1941 is available on GitHub now.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    Besides a series of small improvements and minor bug fixes, VirusTotal Integration was added. Please see this FAQ for more information about configuring and using this new feature:

    (181) How do I use VirusTotal?

    Note that the app hasn't been restored in the Play store yet. For the latest status updates, please see here:

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    That guy really needs his email. I wonder who he thinks will maintain the app after he killed you 🤔
    Given the messages I just received I am pretty sure this guy is reading here.

    To this guy: I am doing my best to hold this project together and what you are doing isn't helping, on the contrary. Instead, if the app is dear to you, you can better help and complain to the right people, mainly Google.
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    Using a Gmail account in FairEmail will inevitably leak your IP address, and thus your rough location, but nothing else, except the obvious: the messages you receive and sent and their meta data (sender, receiver, subject, etc).

    Note that it is not a good idea to use a VPN to hide your IP address because you'll probably run into "Please log in via your web browser" at an inconvenient moment.

    For HOTP and TOTP I recommend FreeOTP+.

    I think enough has been said about the privacy aspects of a Google account now. Whether a Google account on your device is a privacy concern or not is off-topic here. If you want to keep discussing about this, please create another XDA thread for this. You can leave a link to the created thread here if you wish.
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    See here for screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    Please read this before requesting a new feature:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-get-support

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.
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    How was the call with Google today, Marcel?

    Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":

    Privacy Policy​

    All apps must post a privacy policy in both the designated field in Play Console and within the app itself. The privacy policy must, together with any in-app disclosures, comprehensively disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data, not limited by the data disclosed in the Data Safety section. This must include:
    • developer information and a privacy point of contact or a mechanism to submit inquiries
    • disclosing the types of personal and sensitive user data your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares; and any parties with which any personal or sensitive user data is shared
    • secure data handling procedures for personal and sensitive user data
    • the developer’s data retention and deletion policy
    • clear labeling as a privacy policy (e.g., listed as “privacy policy” in title)
    The entity (e.g., developer, company) named in the app’s Google Play listing must appear in the privacy policy or the app must be named in the privacy policy. Apps that do not access any personal and sensitive user data must still submit a privacy policy.

    Please make sure your privacy policy is available on an active URL (no PDFs) and is non-editable.

    So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

    I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

    Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

    The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
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    Version 1.1900 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval (which is the main goal of this release).

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    My girlfriend is slowly recovering too :)
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.