[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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M66B

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Thanks a lot for the quick response. Wish I had exported data before (oops). Have rebooted a few things (both via power menu and long-hold power button press) but no effect.

If I choose to go down the re-install path I will let you know, but also a bit tied up right now and would need to jiggle with 2FA app passwords.

Appreciate the suggestions very much!
If you wait a little, I will build and publish a new version.
 
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For two of my Gmail accounts I'm using lots of filter rules (all so far defined within web GMail and most to do with deleting unwanted mails). Couple of Q's: is there a way to import these rules into FE? If not, if I define NEW rules in FE (but leave the OLD ones active in GMail) is there a difference in behaviour between messages that are handled by FE rules vs GMail rules? Thanks for looking into this.
 

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For two of my Gmail accounts I'm using lots of filter rules (all so far defined within web GMail and most to do with deleting unwanted mails). Couple of Q's: is there a way to import these rules into FE? If not, if I define NEW rules in FE (but leave the OLD ones active in GMail) is there a difference in behaviour between messages that are handled by FE rules vs GMail rules? Thanks for looking into this.
You can't import the rules of Gmail, but you can use both rules types are the same time.
 

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@M66B: I got my domain email transferred to Microsoft 365 just fine, I just choose Microsoft oauth in the account setup menu, to add it alongside Gmail. It looks like it uses the same username/password as before, independent of my main Microsoft account.

I'm wondering if you can explain this screenshot, though.

It shows a contacts folder with a bunch of random letters/#s as before. I had emailed some people but never saved them as contacts in my webmail.

There is a 2nd screenshot, but I won't upload it, due to it containing my full email address. Inside this folder were several messages.

All of them had the header:
Microsoft Exchange Server
Retrieval using the imap4 protocol failed for the following message: <insert random # here>

In the message body it says basically the same thing, but states that it hasn't been deleted, and that I might be able to view it through their webmail interface.

I've tried deleting this folder after moving the messages to the inbox. Your app acts as if the folder was deleted, but it reappears after refreshing.

Ideally I'd like to be able to view all messages from all my accounts from within your app. That was the main reason I bought the pro features. All other folders in this account and their contents appear to be fine.
 

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M66B

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@M66B: I got my domain email transferred to Microsoft 365 just fine, I just choose Microsoft oauth in the account setup menu, to add it alongside Gmail. It looks like it uses the same username/password as before, independent of my main Microsoft account.

I'm wondering if you can explain this screenshot, though.

It shows a contacts folder with a bunch of random letters/#s as before. I had emailed some people but never saved them as contacts in my webmail.

There is a 2nd screenshot, but I won't upload it, due to it containing my full email address. Inside this folder were several messages.

All of them had the header:
Microsoft Exchange Server
Retrieval using the imap4 protocol failed for the following message: <insert random # here>

In the message body it says basically the same thing, but states that it hasn't been deleted, and that I might be able to view it through their webmail interface.

I've tried deleting this folder after moving the messages to the inbox. Your app acts as if the folder was deleted, but it reappears after refreshing.

Ideally I'd like to be able to view all messages from all my accounts from within your app. That was the main reason I bought the pro features. All other folders in this account and their contents appear to be fine.
Basically, the app shows folders and messages as they are on the email server. I can't tell why specific folders and/or messages are or are not on the email server. I can check the logging if you wish, if you can't me via here:

 

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Basically, the app shows folders and messages as they are on the email server. I can't tell why specific folders and/or messages are or are not on the email server. I can check the logging if you wish, if you can't me via here:

Should I upload the logs to a post on xda, or to your support site?
 

M66B

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I think this is pretty insulting, also for the people who put effort into translating the app:

deswegen ist auch alles komplaett in deutsche Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit für das deutsche volk und nix weiter seid ihr zu dumm oder schafft ihr es nichal deitsche programme für das deutsche Volk zu erstellen. schwache leistung - 1 star

"That's why everything is completely in German unity and justice and freedom for the German people and nothing further are you too stupid or do you create it nichal German programs for the German people. poor performance"

Google says this review is not violating the Play store policies. WTF.
 

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I think this is pretty insulting, also for the people who put effort into translating the app:



"That's why everything is completely in German unity and justice and freedom for the German people and nothing further are you too stupid or do you create it nichal German programs for the German people. poor performance"

Google says this review is not violating the Play store policies. WTF.

That sounds like a troll or a far right voting idiot
 
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M66B

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Mh, I can just tell you that this guy/girl/... is not even capable to write correct german spelling, so just let it go away....

PS: and reading this he for sure didn't spell it wrong on purpose
I have reported the review to Google in another way, but I am not letting this go. If Google allows reviews like this, I will pull the app from the Play store, because political comments like this are simply unacceptable.
 
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M66B

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OK, put a little differently, I want to know whether there's any functional difference between the two approaches.
I am not sure what you are asking, but for example, it doesn't matter if Gmail or the app removes a message. If you are asking about differences in features: the filter rules of Gmail are rather limited.
 

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I think this is pretty insulting, also for the people who put effort into translating the app:



"That's why everything is completely in German unity and justice and freedom for the German people and nothing further are you too stupid or do you create it nichal German programs for the German people. poor performance"

Google says this review is not violating the Play store policies. WTF.
I don't see this review in der german playstore.
 

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    i was wondering what was the "secret sauce" that made FairEmail show me notifications sooner than any other email app i've tried, a very good idea and clean implementation.

    This is a very nice email app, and even though it can be scarry when you first see all the settings, it's really nice to see all the things we can customize.

    Also, i saw you were dissapointed by the negative reviews, you need to understand that most people that are happy about the app will not comment.
    So, you can think of it like this : for every negative review there are at least 10 people happy, but who couldn't be bothered to leave a review.

    I have to admit, i'm one of them, i usually don't leave reviews, i probably should start leaving reviews, specially for apps i use daily and i'm happy about ;)
    The secret sauce would be called IMAP IDLE / PUSH. It allows email servers that offer this to inform the connected clients within (fractions of) seconds upon arrival of a new message and that without negative impact on battery usage. FairEmail supports this while many other clients such as Outlook do not.

    Marcel has indeed put a lot of thought and time in this app. You can have a look into the GitHub commit history alone to see that. So, you could perhaps call this project his child he dearly adores, if I may put it this way. Especially unreasonable negative reviews can hurt in such a case.

    Therefore, it'd indeed be great if you leave a honest 5* review if you're happy with the app. And if you're not happy, it'd be great to give Marcel a chance by telling him what's bothering you before leaving a negative review.
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    Version 1.2000 1.2001 is available on GitHub now and via the Play Store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    Notable additions are OAuth for AOL, support for LanguageTool premium, and zipping of attachments in the message composer.
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    The next version will have a new option in the privacy settings tab page to remove tracking parameters from links by default. Since removing tracking parameters can lead to links that do not work anymore, this will be done only when showing the link confirmation dialog, so that removing tracking parameters can be disabled always again if needed.
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    Version 1.2009 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    All reported bugs were fixed, and a few things were improved.
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    Version 1.2003 is available on GitHub now and via the Play Store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    If you wish, you can enable to remove tracking parameters from links by default in the privacy settings tab page now, but please be aware that the link confirmation dialog will always be shown when you do.
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    The point is that not long ago this was 4.8, which clearly illustrates the negative trend.
    It's still the highest rated email app on the Play Store.

    Stats from the United States

    Fairemail 4.7
    Gmail 4.2
    Outlook 4.5
    Outlook Lite 3.9
    Aqua Mail 4.3
    K9 Mail 3.1
    Nine 4.1
    Newton Mail 1.8
    Proton Mail 3.5
    Spark Email 4.1
    Blue Mail 4.4

    Fairemail is unbeatable the closest email app is still .5 points behind you. I agree that you should focus on the good and the great things you have and continue to accomplish with Fairemail. You even out perform the likes of Google and Microsoft who have large staff of programmers who can't beat the like of you. Mozilla was stupid to have K9 Mail for Thunderbird on Android which is 1.6 points behind you.

    You have the BEST email app. The stats show it and continue to show. I started reading through some of these one-star reviews and many of them fail to read the instructions (this is not your fault this is theirs) or know how to use a basic email app. No matter how hard you try you cannot fix stupidity.
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    See here for screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    Please read this before requesting a new feature:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-get-support

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account, you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off-topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.
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    How was the call with Google today, Marcel?

    Google was pretty friendly and cooperative and told me the favicons are indeed the problem, and it can/should be fixed by updating in the privacy policy to "disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data":

    Privacy Policy​

    All apps must post a privacy policy in both the designated field in Play Console and within the app itself. The privacy policy must, together with any in-app disclosures, comprehensively disclose how your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares user data, not limited by the data disclosed in the Data Safety section. This must include:
    • developer information and a privacy point of contact or a mechanism to submit inquiries
    • disclosing the types of personal and sensitive user data your app accesses, collects, uses, and shares; and any parties with which any personal or sensitive user data is shared
    • secure data handling procedures for personal and sensitive user data
    • the developer’s data retention and deletion policy
    • clear labeling as a privacy policy (e.g., listed as “privacy policy” in title)
    The entity (e.g., developer, company) named in the app’s Google Play listing must appear in the privacy policy or the app must be named in the privacy policy. Apps that do not access any personal and sensitive user data must still submit a privacy policy.

    Please make sure your privacy policy is available on an active URL (no PDFs) and is non-editable.

    So, I have updated the privacy policy and added this new table:

    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/PRIVACY.md#summary-of-shared-data

    I am not sure if it covers everything, so feedback is more than welcome. @mkasimd maybe you can take a look?

    Note that I have also enabled BIMI, Gravatars, Libravatars and favicons for the Play store version again.

    The short term goal is to release a Play store test version (and associated GitHub version) and to get the update approved. I will think about the next steps after this has been accomplished. Given the huge number of supportive messages I received (much appreciated!) the project will be continued in some form in any case.
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    Version 1.1900 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval (which is the main goal of this release).

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    My girlfriend is slowly recovering too :)
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.