[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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Whereby this item is only displayed in the send dialog if you have enabled the conversation view in the settings.
Yes, that's correct, it will work for conversations only.

There is a good reason for that: a thread can always be looked up by thread ID, but the message being replied to cannot be reliably looked up because it could be deleted or moved to another folder at the time you send the message.
 
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Version 1.1463 is available on GitHub now.

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https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version supports archiving on sending in single message mode too by looking up the message by message ID. @fraschi51 can you please double check if it works as intended.

Should trashing/archiving a conversation also trash/archive unread messages?
 

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Version 1.1465 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval, which usually takes a few hours.

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https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds local (=on device only) notes for messages. You can write a note via the horizontal three-dots menu just above the message text. There is also an optional button for when you are going to use this often.

I am not sure yet about the presentation of the notes in the message header yet. For now it is below the preview (if enabled), full width and bold. Suggestions are welcome.
 
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Version 1.1465 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:
https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version adds local (=on device only) notes for messages. You can write a note via the horizontal three-dots menu just above the message text. There is also an optional button for when you are going to use this often.

I am not sure yet about the presentation of the notes in the message header yet. For now it is below the preview (if enabled), full width and bold. Suggestions are welcome.
Love the feature ! Would be great if u could somehow kick it back to the server as well.
 

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Version 1.1463 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:
https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version supports archiving on sending in single message mode too by looking up the message by message ID. @fraschi51 can you please double check if it works as intended.
Honestly, Marcel, I can test this function only badly: 1. I archive only very rarely something - and if, then 2. only processes, which is also completed - that is with the answer sending certainly not the case, therefore I would archive also certainly nothing in this situation. It is also not entirely clear to me what is archived in each case: Also in single mode the complete conversation or only the single mail (then the translation would probably have to be different). If single mail, which one - the one I reply to or my reply as well?
 

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Honestly, Marcel, I can test this function only badly: 1. I archive only very rarely something - and if, then 2. only processes, which is also completed - that is with the answer sending certainly not the case, therefore I would archive also certainly nothing in this situation. It is also not entirely clear to me what is archived in each case: Also in single mode the complete conversation or only the single mail (then the translation would probably have to be different). If single mail, which one - the one I reply to or my reply as well?
In single message mode only the replied to message will be archived (=moved to the archive folder as set in the account settings).

In conversation mode all read incoming messages will be archived.
 

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In single message mode only the replied to message will be archived (=moved to the archive folder as set in the account settings).

In conversation mode all read incoming messages will be archived.
If my replies are not archived as well, I will never have a complete conversation in the archive folder, right?
And the option should correctly read: "Archive the replied mail or all received and read mails of the entire conversation, if conversation mode / topic tree is set in the setting".
 

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If my replies are not archived as well, I will never have a complete conversation in the archive folder, right?
And the option should correctly read: "Archive the replied mail or all received and read mails of the entire conversation, if conversation mode / topic tree is set in the setting".
The sent messages folder should be considered as archive for sent messages. Moving everything to the archive folder will make it hard to see what is incoming and outgoing.
 
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The sent messages folder should be considered as archive for sent messages. Moving everything to the archive folder will make it hard to see what is incoming and outgoing.
But then I never have a complete conversation in one folder - I would have to keep switching between the Archive and Sent folders if I wanted to retrace that conversation later.
Also, I don't think *all* my sent mail is worth keeping, so when I occasionally clean out the Sent folder, I would have to look at each individual mail to see if it should be deleted or moved to the appropriate conversation in the Archive folder.
 

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But then I never have a complete conversation in one folder - I would have to keep switching between the Archive and Sent folders if I wanted to retrace that conversation later.
Also, I don't think *all* my sent mail is worth keeping, so when I occasionally clean out the Sent folder, I would have to look at each individual mail to see if it should be deleted or moved to the appropriate conversation in the Archive folder.
I have to make choices, which are based on what people commonly want, which in itself is influenced by how things generally work. Gmail, probably the biggest email provider next to Microsoft, doesn't archive sent messages, which is what people generally expect.

You can always move messages yourself and this is mostly a convenience feature anyway.
 

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Version 1.1463 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:
https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

This version supports archiving on sending in single message mode too by looking up the message by message ID. @fraschi51 can you please double check if it works as intended.

Should trashing/archiving a conversation also trash/archive unread messages?

How about the option to trash on sent too? Most of the time I end up trashing the original mail rather than archiving it (for example questions from coworkers I don't need to keep)?
 

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How about the option to trash on sent too? Most of the time I end up trashing the original mail rather than archiving it (for example questions from coworkers I don't need to keep)?
Most people keep their email for later reference, so this won't be commonly used.
 

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Most people keep their email for later reference, so this won't be commonly used.

I agree, I keep all my personal mail which accounts for about 20% of total traffic. Of the 80% work mail, 90% ends up in the trash because I have no use for it later (information that I've read, questions from coworker, etc.). But that's my personal use case and I understand if you don't want to add it! Thanks for the quick reply!
 

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I agree, I keep all my personal mail which accounts for about 20% of total traffic. Of the 80% work mail, 90% ends up in the trash because I have no use for it later (information that I've read, questions from coworker, etc.). But that's my personal use case and I understand if you don't want to add it! Thanks for the quick reply!
I think that the option to archive a whole conversation may be very important for legal reasons.
On at least one occasion in the past, the ability to access a whole conversation proved very useful in resolving a dispute.
However, I understand that my experience may not be common.
 

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I think that the option to archive a whole conversation may be very important for legal reasons.
On at least one occasion in the past, the ability to access a whole conversation proved very useful in resolving a dispute.
However, I understand that my experience may not be common.
But to me, a whole conversation means the contributions of ALL participants.
 
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But to me, a whole conversation means the contributions of ALL participants.
To me it means all messages of the conversation, except messages I sent.
And there you have it: different people, different ideas.
Adding yet another option nobody understands doesn't seem a good idea to me.

Also, even if you archive the messages, how are you going to find back the conversation (=all messages) ? You'll need an email client for this, which does this for you. Fortunately, FairEmail will do this, but of course limited to the messages on your device.
 
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    Version 1.1551 is available on GitHub now.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    There is one new feature which is hidden for now because it is still experimental: using HighestModSeq for a quick check if a sync is necessary on reconnecting. This will probably reduce battery and data usage, especially when there are many reconnects due to an unstable / often changing internet connection. The email server needs to support the CONDSTORE IMAP extension for this. For example Gmail and Dovecot based email servers, like of Disroot.org, do.

    You can enable this option by temporary enabling debug mode in the miscellaneous settings and enabling the MODSEQ option. You can disable debug mode again after this.
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    Version 1.1541 is available on GitHub now:

    Changelog/downloads
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    A number of things, like periodically checking for new messages, waking up messages after snoozing, checking if sent messages exist on the email server, etc, were moved either to the sync or send service to comply with new restrictions on foreground services in the upcoming Android 12. This is a significant change, which is why this is an ALPHA VERSION !!!
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    Version 1.1546 1.1547 1.1548 1.1549 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    Version 1.1539 is available on GitHub now.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    There is a new widget to quickly enable or disable synchronization for all accounts.
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    Version 1.1555 is available on GitHub now and in the Play store test program after Google's approval.

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases
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    FairEmail
    Open source, privacy friendly email app for Android

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    See here for a description:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/

    Downloads:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email#user-content-downloads

    See this XDA article for some screenshots:
    https://www.xda-developers.com/fairemail-open-source-privacy-friendly-email/

    See here for more screenshots:
    https://email.faircode.eu/#screenshots

    Frequently asked questions:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/blob/master/FAQ.md

    This XDA thread is about using the latest version of FairEmail.

    For support on authorizing an account you should consult the documentation of your provider, see also here.

    Off topic comments are allowed as long they are related to FairEmail and are in the general interest of the followers of this thread.

    Discussion of purchases is not allowed here, please contact me via here instead.


    XDA:DevDB Information
    FairEmail, App for all devices (see above for details)

    Contributors
    M66B
    Source Code: https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/


    Version Information
    Status:
    Stable

    Created 2018-08-02
    Last Updated 2020-11-18
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    It is time for a new, modern, open source, privacy friendly email client for Android.

    I have just released a first alpha version for feedback on the design and features.

    Not for production use yet!

    Most of the stuff basically works, but be prepared for crashes and error notifications.


    Safe email is a working name, but it is for several reasons not a convenient name, so suggestions for a name are welcome.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.15

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    With a bit of luck the next version can be a beta version.

    I am putting a lot of effort into this project, so thanks are appreciated.
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    I have just released alpha version 0.10

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/open-source-email/releases

    I have put many hours into developing and debugging this release, so thanks are appreciated.

    This version is still not suitable for production, but all basic functions are present now. The goal is now to stabilize this version into a first beta release, so please let me hear what problems you have.

    Edit: due to database changes you'll need to setup your accounts/identities again.
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    I have just released beta version 1.745

    Changelog/download:
    https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

    The changelog might seem uninteresting, but in fact displaying messages has been rewritten to introduce inline displaying of original messages. I spent about two days developing and testing this, so at least a "thanks" will be appreciated.

    Some background: normally the web view cannot be used in a scrolling list (of messages in a conversation) and although there exist several workarounds for this, none were satisfactory. However, I had a completely novel idea (as far as I know) about how to approach this without the usual edge cases (hopefully) !

    To do: investigate if using a dark background is feasible (setting the background dark is simple, but the challenge is to modify the message so that everything is still readable). I will consider to add an option to always display original messages.

    Please report any problem you discover, so it can be fixed.
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