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[APP][5.0+] FairEmail - Fully featured, open source, privacy oriented email app

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M66B

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Version 1.1618 is available on GitHub now.

Changelog/download:
https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases

There is a new receive option (default disabled) to check if the domain name of the from / reply-to addresses is on a spam block list (for now Spamhaus/zen only). If this is the case, there will be a little warning flag in the message header (the same as for message authentication problems, etc).
 
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The next version will check the block list of spamcop too (if checking block lists is enabled of course).

 

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Thanks for your answer!

Try to set the start screen to accounts or folders in the display settings.

Tried, but is not what I'm looking for....

Showing the folder list in the navigation menu isn't an option. Some apps try this, but fail hopelessly when there are thousands of folders with dozens of levels, which is not an unusual situation in a business environment. Mostly, only a few folders are interesting. You can add a quick link to any folder to the navigation menu by long pressing it in the folder list. You can simply collapse the unified system folders section.

Is it not possible to limit the list of folders only to the main ones (exactly those listed for the "unified" account)?

A conversation is bound to an account only, not a specific folder. New message notifications aren't limited to the inbox only either. The only option would be to put the folder list between the start screen and the conversation, but I am pretty sure most people would hate this.

If I open an email from a notification and press back, I would like to open the inbox folder of the account associated with the email just read and not the list of folders, this regardless of whether the email just opened is actually contained in the Inbox folder .
The quick link in the navigation menu is not the solution for me.

In other words, I would like the app to be "Inbox-driven": the mail clients I've used so far (on PC and smartphone) all work in this way ...

However I understand that there are choices in every app that favor certain aspects over others and I do not expect FairEmail to adapt to my needs, especially if no other user has the same point of view.
 

M66B

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Thanks for your answer!



Tried, but is not what I'm looking for....



Is it not possible to limit the list of folders only to the main ones (exactly those listed for the "unified" account)?



If I open an email from a notification and press back, I would like to open the inbox folder of the account associated with the email just read and not the list of folders, this regardless of whether the email just opened is actually contained in the Inbox folder .
The quick link in the navigation menu is not the solution for me.

In other words, I would like the app to be "Inbox-driven": the mail clients I've used so far (on PC and smartphone) all work in this way ...

However I understand that there are choices in every app that favor certain aspects over others and I do not expect FairEmail to adapt to my needs, especially if no other user has the same point of view.
FairEmail is "Inbox-driven" too. When you open a message from a notification and tap back, you'll land in the unified inbox (unless you changed the start screen).

I think that it is logical to go from an out of band opened message (not from navigating within the app) to the start screen on back.

Putting the inbox in between the unified inbox and the message opened from a notification would be possible, but I am pretty sure most other people will not like this extra navigation step.

Moreover, a conversation is being opened, not a message. The notified message might not be the last message of the conversation and the last message might not be in the inbox (for example in the sent message folder). Also, more messages might arrive in the conversation while it is being viewed.
 
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carpler

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FairEmail is "Inbox-driven" too. When you open a message from a notification and tap back, you'll land in the unified inbox (unless you changed the start screen).

I think that it is logical to go from an out of band opened message (not from navigating within the app) to the start screen on back.

Putting the inbox in between the unified inbox and the message opened from a notification would be possible, but I am pretty sure most other people will not like this extra navigation step.

Moreover, a conversation is being opened, not a message. The notified message might not be the last message of the conversation and the last message might not be in the inbox (for example in the sent message folder). Also, more messages might arrive in the conversation while it is being viewed.

FairEmail is "unified-inbox-driven", but I'm not used to this way of things...
I have 6 email accounts and all together in the same inbox is a little bit confusing...

However I understand your point of view. I'll test FairEmail a little more to see if I can get used to this new mode, otherwise I'll stick with my current client on Android.
Thanks so much for the replies!
 

M66B

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FairEmail is "unified-inbox-driven", but I'm not used to this way of things...
I have 6 email accounts and all together in the same inbox is a little bit confusing...

However I understand your point of view. I'll test FairEmail a little more to see if I can get used to this new mode, otherwise I'll stick with my current client on Android.
Thanks so much for the replies!
Maybe it is an option to remove some of the inboxes from the unified inbox. You can do this by long pressing an inbox in the folder list of an account.

Did you try unified folders as start screen?
 

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Not, if you use the color-stripe for differencing them.
The color-stripes are indeed very useful. But it's a little hidden feature IMO as one has to go through each account (and possibly identity too) and set up a specific color for each of them manually. It's also a hassle as in not as user-friendly as it could be.

So I'd like to put a suggestion in the room and see the resonance whether it's desired or not.

There are multiple pre-configured providers already. So how about adding one new parameter to each pre-configured provider: a color matching the provider's brand or logo. For instance, red (#ea4335) for GMail, blue (#1c449b) for GMX, blue (#0067b8) for Outlook/Hotmail, purple (#720e9e) for Yahoo, magenta (#e20074) for T-Online, blue (#003d8f) for 1&1/IONOS, blue (#0060a3) for AOL, bordeaux (#50162d) for Disroot, etc. to name examples for some common providers.

This would provide a great default color for each newly created account and identity.
 
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The color-stripes are indeed very useful. But it's a little hidden feature IMO as one has to go through each account (and possibly identity too) and set up a specific color for each of them manually. It's also a hassle as in not as user-friendly as it could be.

So I'd like to put a suggestion in the room and see the resonance whether it's desired or not.

There are multiple pre-configured providers already. So how about adding one new parameter to each pre-configured provider: a color matching the provider's brand or logo. For instance, red (#ea4335) for GMail, blue (#1c449b) for GMX, blue (#0067b8) for Outlook/Hotmail, purple (#720e9e) for Yahoo, magenta (#e20074) for T-Online, blue (#003d8f) for 1&1/IONOS, blue (#0060a3) for AOL, etc. to name examples for some common providers.

This would provide a great default color for each newly created account and identity.
What about the thousands of other providers and private email servers?
 

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What about the thousands of other providers and private email servers?
The last part of the question is very simple to answer: private email servers and custom domains are not added into the pre-configured providers list and won't receive any pre-set color as such. Nobody can expect you to guess what color the domain owner or app-user had in his or her mind, except maybe for professional services that already have a logo, color scheme and brand color available.

As for the multiple other providers: if they are already included in your list of providers, they should receive a color over time, but starting with the most common ones to satisfy most consumers in one go

Of course, you won't have to enter all colors in one go, but can start with the most common 10 - 20 providers at first and slowly work towards giving all pre-configured providers a color. It is not uncommon to scale things in a way to satisfy as many consumers as possible if one cannot satisfy everyone (yet). And obviously, you cannot add each and every provider there is in one go; some of which you don't even know yet.
 

M66B

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The last part of the question is very simple to answer: private email servers and custom domains are not added into the pre-configured providers list and won't receive any pre-set color as such. Nobody can expect you to guess what color the domain owner or app-user had in his or her mind, except maybe for professional services that already have a logo, color scheme and brand color available.

As for the multiple other providers: if they are already included in your list of providers, they should receive a color over time, but starting with the most common ones to satisfy most consumers in one go

Of course, you won't have to enter all colors in one go, but can start with the most common 10 - 20 providers at first and slowly work towards giving all pre-configured providers a color. It is not uncommon to scale things in a way to satisfy as many consumers as possible if one cannot satisfy everyone (yet). And obviously, you cannot add each and every provider there is in one go; some of which you don't even know yet.
The other problem is that there will always be somebody unhappy with the default colors.

How about making setting account colors easier by adding a menu item to the long press menu of the account list?
 
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The color-stripes are indeed very useful. But it's a little hidden feature IMO as one has to go through each account (and possibly identity too) and set up a specific color for each of them manually. It's also a hassle as in not as user-friendly as it could be.
You only need this feature once in your life with FairEmail - if you set all the other properties per account anyway.
Personally, I wouldn't like the predefined colours you suggested anyway, so I would have to enter this dialogue anyway.
 
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Well, you both have a point, @fraschi51 & @M66B. The main issue probably is the amount of steps it takes to set a color preference. Here some screenshots to show how hidden the feature looks out of user-perspective.

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Wizard -> select provider (e.g. other provider) -> enter credentials -> edit account -> select color.

Instead, the color could be asked right below the credentials, saving several steps as well as increasing the visibility of the feature. Then providing default colors are not necessary as well. Also, that same color should be set for both the account and identity then.
 

M66B

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Well, you both have a point, @fraschi51 & @M66B. The main issue probably is the amount of steps it takes to set a color preference. Here some screenshots to show how hidden the feature looks out of user-perspective.

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Wizard -> select provider (e.g. other provider) -> enter credentials -> edit account -> select color.

Instead, the color could be asked right below the credentials, saving several steps as well as increasing the visibility of the feature. Then providing default colors are not necessary as well. Also, that same color should be set for both the account and identity then.

That won't be nice for people who need a few tries to setup an account.
Generally, the setup account procedure should be as simple as possible.

It isn't every day you'll be setting up an account!
 
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