[APP][5.0+][v3.6.8] BubbleUPnP - UPnP/DLNA/Chromecast Control Point and Renderer

[wwyjoe]

TIDAL should be better if set to use FLAC 44.1/16 which will play unmodified via Audio Cast since it is already 44.1/16.
If Apple is capable of outputting lossless at 44.1/16, it should be as good.
Note that for TIDAL, you can also use the integration of TIDAL in BubbleUPnP so your renderer streams directly from TIDAL. There should theoretically not be a difference in audio quality (since both are FLAC 44.1/16), but using BubbleUPnP is more direct (less of a black box).

@wwyjoe

Yes, Audio Cast sends a continuous PCM stream at a fixed samplerate/bitdepth. There is no other way. It is a bit similar to AirPlay which also operates at 44.1/16. If you play HiRes Music in Apple Music (or any other app) or audio that is not already 44.1/16, it will be resampled by the system (Android) and that's what BubbleUPnP reads for sending back to the renderer.



TIDAL should be better if set to use FLAC 44.1/16 which will play unmodified via Audio Cast since it is already 44.1/16.
If Apple is capable of outputting lossless at 44.1/16, it should be as good.
Note that for TIDAL, you can also use the integration of TIDAL in BubbleUPnP so your renderer streams directly from TIDAL. There should theoretically not be a difference in audio quality (since both are FLAC 44.1/16), but using BubbleUPnP is more direct (less of a black box).

Sorry. Just to clarify, when streaming MQA Tidal tracks by Audio Cast, these MQA tracks would be resampled by Android? Hence, better if these tracks are downloaded in HiFi quality (i.e. 16/44.1) to avoid Android resampling and for better sound?

 

[.:Stefan:.]

@.:Stefan:.

The reason for this is that BubbleUPnP Server when accessed behind a reverse proxy, sees the connection originating from the proxy, which is local, thus no credentials popup. Admittedly, there could be a setting in BubbleUPnP Server that forces credentials popup even on the LAN.

So, you need to add credentials managed by the reverse proxy. For example a .htpasswd managing access to /some-path should work.

Hi @bubbleguuum
I now had the time to play a bit with some http auth to ensure an extra layer of security.
Basically it works (thru the web), however, when trying to access the Server thru the Android app, it always tells me that the connection itself could be established but auth has failed.

I'm sure that this is because of the additional "credential-request", but how to solve that so that the Android app can connect to the server in such case thru the internet.

Any hints? Many thanks.

 

[theoneofgod]

I tried installing https://bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp/xposed/BubbleUPnP.apk on Lineage 18.1 but it just says "App not installed" like it's not supporting that version of Android or something. Any solution?

 

[bubbleguuum]

@bubbleguuum
Sometime around November BubbleUPnP stopped saving Folder.jpg when caching remotely-transcoded music locally. This causes other media players to not show the artwork associated with the track.

I did a test where I played a remote track, let it cache the music, and saw the following in the log (line 802):

[BubbleUPnPServerProxyServlet-1348 (1348)] WARNING  - 0:00:29.822    - failed to create file: Folder.jpg

(also lots of warnings about not being able to delete directories.. maybe the local music cache cleanup routine isn't working?)

Attached is the log - let me know if you need more info.

@Snowknight26

Weird errors that I cannot reproduce, but I believe they are SAF (Storage Access Framework) permission related.
Moreover, your cache directory seems to point at a file:// Uri rather than a SAF content:// Uri pointing to the same folder.
It is not possible to pick a cache folder that is a file:// Uri anymore, so the only way you have such Uri is if you picked it long ago.

I suggest to pick the cache folder again (in Internet access with BubbleUPnP Server > Cache Folder) to check if it fixes the problem. Although to entirely fix it you may have to clear the cache folder (I suggest to do that in a file manager app for good measure), and pick it again. Currently BubbleUPnP cannot delete any cached file, so the cache grows past its configured limit.

 

[bubbleguuum]

I tried installing https://bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnp/xposed/BubbleUPnP.apk on Lineage 18.1 but it just says "App not installed" like it's not supporting that version of Android or something. Any solution?

@theoneofgod

You do not need the Audio Cast Xposed module anymore for Audio Cast on Android 10+. See discussion a few posts above in previous page with psychofaktory

 

[bubbleguuum]

Hi @bubbleguuum
I now had the time to play a bit with some http auth to ensure an extra layer of security.
Basically it works (thru the web), however, when trying to access the Server thru the Android app, it always tells me that the connection itself could be established but auth has failed.

I'm sure that this is because of the additional "credential-request", but how to solve that so that the Android app can connect to the server in such case thru the internet.

Any hints? Many thanks.

@.:Stefan:.

I have not tried such setup (reverse proxy + auth managed by the reverse proxy) but this might be a bit tricky, if at all possible.
The reverse proxy must use Digest authentication for any path pointing to BubbleUPnP Server, except /stream/* (otherwise streaming will not work, as it is not authenticated by design), /proxy/* and /ffmpegpcmdecode/*.

Even with this, I'm not entirely certain it will work properly.

 

[bubbleguuum]

Sorry. Just to clarify, when streaming MQA Tidal tracks by Audio Cast, these MQA tracks would be resampled by Android? Hence, better if these tracks are downloaded in HiFi quality (i.e. 16/44.1) to avoid Android resampling and for better sound?

@wwyjoe

Yes, any media played in an app that is > 44.1/16 will be captured as 44.1/16 PCM by BubbleUPnP, resampled by the Android media subsystem. HiRes resampled media may sound different (and even, in most cases I bet you would not be able to tell the difference), not necessarily worse. But if you want no resampling, make sure to play 44.1/16 source media in external apps.

 

[bubbleguuum]

I think I solved it. In my sim settings, APN was set to IPv6 only. I switched it to ipv4&IPv6. It's now working...
I found the solution because other suffered more or less the same issue with newer 5g network while playing online games with Xbox...

BubbleUPnP indeed only works with ipv4.

Now, another question for you guys.
I am looking for a good app to make advanced sound correction while using bubbleupnp. Looking for EQ app and if possible using also convolution correction (same as in Roon, but for Android). Any advice ?
Thanks.

No idea here. There is a myriad of EQ apps but not familiar with any of these.

 

[.:Stefan:.]

@.:Stefan:.

I have not tried such setup (reverse proxy + auth managed by the reverse proxy) but this might be a bit tricky, if at all possible.
The reverse proxy must use Digest authentication for any path pointing to BubbleUPnP Server, except /stream/* (otherwise streaming will not work, as it is not authenticated by design), /proxy/* and /ffmpegpcmdecode/*.

Even with this, I'm not entirely certain it will work properly.

@bubbleguuum


OK, I see.
But by chance, do you happen to know why Docker (Portainer) always claims the container to be "unhealthy" once I follow your documentation regarding reverse proxy and config with sub-path?
I followed the steps 1:1 from here: https://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubb...sing-bubbleupnp-server-behind-a-reverse-proxy

Always same result, however BubbleUPnPServer itself seems to operate fine. But the "unhealthy" status generates increasing error count visible in Portainer (but not in containers' logs).

Thanks.

 

[bubbleguuum]

@bubbleguuum


OK, I see.
But by chance, do you happen to know why Docker (Portainer) always claims the container to be "unhealthy" once I follow your documentation regarding reverse proxy and config with sub-path?
I followed the steps 1:1 from here: https://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubb...sing-bubbleupnp-server-behind-a-reverse-proxy

Always same result, however BubbleUPnPServer itself seems to operate fine. But the "unhealthy" status generates increasing error count visible in Portainer (but not in containers' logs).

Thanks.

@.:Stefan:.

It's a bug in the health check. It does just a wget on 'http://localhost: port' and omit the webContextPath field configured in configuration.xml. So the wget fails.
I will fix it. In the meantime you can disable the health check with the --no-healthcheck parameter to 'docker create' or 'docker run'

 

[Snowknight26]

I suggest to pick the cache folder again (in Internet access with BubbleUPnP Server > Cache Folder) to check if it fixes the problem.

Thanks, that fixed the Folder.jpg issue.

You're right about the path. Since switching to a Pixel 6, my BubbleUPnP config was imported from a Pixel running Android 10 and probably hadn't changed for a few years before then either. I imagine the config import process only reads settings and doesn't modify them (except when invalid), keeping the previously-valid file:// URI.

I suppose it's a little curious that while actual .mp3 files were successfully written during the caching process, .jpgs weren't. Nevertheless, all good now.

 

[.:Stefan:.]

@.:Stefan:.

It's a bug in the health check. It does just a wget on 'http://localhost: port' and omit the webContextPath field configured in configuration.xml. So the wget fails.
I will fix it. In the meantime you can disable the health check with the --no-healthcheck parameter to 'docker create' or 'docker run'

@bubbleguuum

Thanks, would be really nice if you could fix it on BubbleUPnPServer side because Portainer (still) ignores the "--no-healthcheck" parameter obviously. A long pending NFR has not been acknowledged yet.

 

[simonMBUK]

Hi @bubbleguuum ,

I find myself often wanting to use the 'Tracks by <Artist>' context menu item to find related tracks, but if a track has multiple artists it only matches tracks where ALL artists match.
Rather than suggest you add one line item for each artist and clutter the context menu, would it be possible to make the 'Show metadata' screen more functional, and have each item on that screen capable of performing a UPnP search (clickable maybe) e.g. Album Artist, Artist (independently), Composer, Genre e.t.c? It would offer quite a powerful direct filtering capability without increasing visual clutter, a bit like the Lumin implementation.

As always thankyou for both the control point and server, a truly indispensable combination.

 

[BalooRJ]

Just wanted to say thanks for this app! I had been using the official Oppo android App for my Oppo 103 which is woefully out of date, cannot read and playback local files, and frequently caused playback on my 103 to stutter or stop when using the built-in TIDAL service. BubbleUPnP works perfectly in its stead and allows for me to playback local files and even Newpipe youtube videos from my phone with complete ease. Amazing app, please continue to develop it! You earned a purchase on the Amazon Appstore from me.

Only thing I noticed is that with Qobuz (not Tidal) the track information and album art is not served to the media server. any way to fix this?

And any 103 and BubbleUPnP users have any tips for more functionality?

 

[.:Stefan:.]

Hi @bubbleguuum ,

just a quick Q... is it a limitation of my renderer that Twitch (audio) streams won't be played on it?
If "sharing" a stream link from Twitch Android app to BubbleUPnP Android app for example, it gets added to the playlist. The stream itself in the playlist will be recognized as HLS.

When I now try to play it on my desired renderer, an older Jongo A2, simply nothing happens.
I can see that it tries to play the stream (as "remote audio PCM 16-Bit, 48kHz"), but then after 20 sec or so just nothing happens. No error etc.

I've activated transcoding (always) to make sure the BubbleUPnP Server will do this job but obviously something is wrong. Normally this Jongo A2 plays audio stuff pretty well, even though it's old from a current point of view.

Other audio files, such as those available locally on my NAS (MP3, FLAC) will be played fine always.

I want to understand why in this scenario no audio stream play is possible.

Thanks!

 

[BalooRJ]

Edit: You have to use apps like NewPipe (not on play store) that can extract an audio link. Then you should be able to stream the audio via bubbleupnp to audio-only renderers

Sorry to bump this topic so many years later. I've been attempting to use BubbleUPnP with Newpipe, using the share function from Newpipe to BubbleUPnP on the video stream. I am using the pro version of Bubble from the Amazon Appstore. However, no matter what video I stream, the stream will cut off close to the end of the video on my device (I am streaming to an Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray Player). Has anyone else run into this issue?

 

[Magicbas]

Hi all,

I have been using BubbleUPnPServer on my former synology nas for years. Unfortunately, when I recently bought a new NAS I had to move to DSM 7 and thus no longer native BubbleUPnPServer.
I've been tinkering with docker for a while now and I got multiple containers running perfectly.

I also setup a docker container for BubbleUPnPServer, which is running fine. I can access the webGUI and do all the normal stuff.
However, when I tick the Create Openhome renderer in the Renderers tab, the newly created OpenHome renderer [renderername (openhome)] isn't being advertised on my LAN.

I'm not sure what's going wrong, but both Linn Kazoo (via android and Win11) and Android BubbleUPnP control points don't see the openhome renderer.

Do you guys have any pointers where to look in order for this issue to be solved? I can post the log if needed.

Thanks in advance!

 

[bubbleguuum]

Sorry to bump this topic so many years later. I've been attempting to use BubbleUPnP with Newpipe, using the share function from Newpipe to BubbleUPnP on the video stream. I am using the pro version of Bubble from the Amazon Appstore. However, no matter what video I stream, the stream will cut off close to the end of the video on my device (I am streaming to an Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray Player). Has anyone else run into this issue?

@BalooRJ

It really looks like a problem specific to this Oppo player. How long before the end of the video does it cut ?
Although i would not have high hopes, you can if you wish send me a log file, playing a video until it cut before the end. See first post of this topic for logging instructions.

 

[bubbleguuum]

Hi all,

I have been using BubbleUPnPServer on my former synology nas for years. Unfortunately, when I recently bought a new NAS I had to move to DSM 7 and thus no longer native BubbleUPnPServer.
I've been tinkering with docker for a while now and I got multiple containers running perfectly.

I also setup a docker container for BubbleUPnPServer, which is running fine. I can access the webGUI and do all the normal stuff.
However, when I tick the Create Openhome renderer in the Renderers tab, the newly created OpenHome renderer [renderername (openhome)] isn't being advertised on my LAN.

I'm not sure what's going wrong, but both Linn Kazoo (via android and Win11) and Android BubbleUPnP control points don't see the openhome renderer.

Do you guys have any pointers where to look in order for this issue to be solved? I can post the log if needed.

Thanks in advance!

@Magicbas

I'm assuming that you are usig host networking (--net=host). You probably are anyway, since otherwise your renderer would not be detected by BubbleUPnP Server.
Difficult to tell what is causing this issue, but if a firewall is running on the Syno, I'd try with it entirely disabled.

 

[bubbleguuum]

Hi @bubbleguuum ,

just a quick Q... is it a limitation of my renderer that Twitch (audio) streams won't be played on it?
If "sharing" a stream link from Twitch Android app to BubbleUPnP Android app for example, it gets added to the playlist. The stream itself in the playlist will be recognized as HLS.

When I now try to play it on my desired renderer, an older Jongo A2, simply nothing happens.
I can see that it tries to play the stream (as "remote audio PCM 16-Bit, 48kHz"), but then after 20 sec or so just nothing happens. No error etc.

I've activated transcoding (always) to make sure the BubbleUPnP Server will do this job but obviously something is wrong. Normally this Jongo A2 plays audio stuff pretty well, even though it's old from a current point of view.

Other audio files, such as those available locally on my NAS (MP3, FLAC) will be played fine always.

I want to understand why in this scenario no audio stream play is possible.

Thanks!

@.:Stefan:.


Please send me a log file, attempting to play a Twitch stream to your Jongo. See first post of this topic for logging instructions.