[APP][5.0+][v3.8.0.2] BubbleUPnP - UPnP/DLNA/Chromecast Control Point and Renderer

[Karasca]

I've been having a persistent problem with this application since the first day weeks ago. I've finally gotten around to trying to troubleshoot the issue but I'm not getting anywhere.

Connecting to the foobar2000 server works fine, but any music stops playing after about 2 minutes.
This is regardless of whether the screen is off/on, the app is in the back/foreground. No matter what, even when keeping the application open on the "playing" screen.

I've tried everything in the anti battery saving pages and updated every part of my network.

I've sent an email before but there has been no reply to it, so I'm trying here.

I have the log file ready that shows 2 instances of music playing being interrupted, let me know if you need it.

 

[wolfgg]

im using netease cloud music and ububble upnp on my xiaomi smart projector and push the songs over the dlna to ububble upnp but only 1 song works after that it stops, can anyhone help please?
Also how do i display the lyrics?
thanks

 

[bubbleguuum]

I've been having a persistent problem with this application since the first day weeks ago. I've finally gotten around to trying to troubleshoot the issue but I'm not getting anywhere.

Connecting to the foobar2000 server works fine, but any music stops playing after about 2 minutes.
This is regardless of whether the screen is off/on, the app is in the back/foreground. No matter what, even when keeping the application open on the "playing" screen.

I've tried everything in the anti battery saving pages and updated every part of my network.

I've sent an email before but there has been no reply to it, so I'm trying here.

I have the log file ready that shows 2 instances of music playing being interrupted, let me know if you need it.

@Karasca

Yes, please send log files to [email protected].
Make sure they are recorded following instructions in the first post of this topic.

 

[taimei]

@bubbleguuum

I use the Audio decoding to PCM feature in BubbleUPnP Server.
When I play a 32bit file, it is decoded to 16bit. 24bit files do not have that problem.
The following ffmpeg log shows that -f s16le is specified in FFMpegUtils: ffmepg process.
FfmpegPCMDecodeServlet : decode info is outputs "bitsPerSample":16.
I would like to see 32bit files not downconverted to 16bit.
Can you fix this problem? Or is it a bug in ffmpeg?


BubbleUPnP Server : 0.9-update43

ffmpeg decode log (32bit/96kHz file)

INFO     - 55:44:42.65    - .FfmpegPCMDecodeServlet     : input url: http://xxx.xxx.x.x:xxxx/minimserver/*/32bit_sample_track.wav, format: wav, ext: wav, codec: pcm_s32le, samplerate:96000, bits: 32, channels: 2, duration: 209.586667s, ReplayGain (tags): false, ReplayGain (forced track gain): null, track peak: null
INFO     - 55:49:43.458   - .FFMpegUtils                : ffmpeg process started, timeout: 0s: ffmpeg -seekable 1 -ss 0.000000 -i http://xxx.xxx.x.x:xxxx/minimserver/*/32bit_sample_track.wav -i /Users/home/Library/MinimServer/filters/flat95/conv96.wav -vn -f s16le -ar 96000 -ac 2 -map 0:0 -filter_complex aresample=resampler=soxr:precision=28,volume=replaygain=track,afir=gtype=none -
INFO     - 55:53:42.735   - .FfmpegPCMDecodeServlet     : decode info: {"contentType":"audio/wav","samplerate":96000,"channels":2,"bitsPerSample":16,"duration":209.586667,"bytesPerSecond":384000,"decodeUrl":"http://xxx.xxx.x.x:xxxx/minimserver/*/32bit_sample_track.wav","hasReplaygainApplied":false,"isAudioChanged":true,"isShoutcast":false}

ffmpeg info

INFO     - 0:00:08.765    - .Main                       : ffmpeg version 5.0-tessus  https://evermeet.cx/ffmpeg/  Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers
built with Apple clang version 11.0.0 (clang-1100.0.33.17)
configuration: --cc=/usr/bin/clang --prefix=/opt/ffmpeg --extra-version=tessus --enable-avisynth --enable-fontconfig --enable-gpl --enable-libaom --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libdav1d --enable-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmodplug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libmysofa --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenh264 --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-librubberband --enable-libshine --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --enable-libzimg --enable-libzmq --enable-libzvbi --enable-version3 --pkg-config-flags=--static --disable-ffplay
libavutil      57. 17.100 / 57. 17.100
libavcodec     59. 18.100 / 59. 18.100
libavformat    59. 16.100 / 59. 16.100
libavdevice    59.  4.100 / 59.  4.100
libavfilter     8. 24.100 /  8. 24.100
libswscale      6.  4.100 /  6.  4.100
libswresample   4.  3.100 /  4.  3.100
libpostproc    56.  3.100 / 56.  3.100

INFO     - 0:00:08.766    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports SoX resampler
INFO     - 0:00:08.841    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports mp3 encoding (libmp3lame)
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports libvorbis encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports opus encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports ac3 encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports eac3 encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports flac encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports libx264 software encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.842    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports h264_videotoolbox hardware encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.843    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports experimental aac encoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.891    - .Main                       : ffmpeg doesn't support h264_vda hardware decoder
INFO     - 0:00:08.934    - .Main                       : ffmpeg doesn't support VDA hwaccel
INFO     - 0:00:08.979    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports matroska encoding
INFO     - 0:00:08.979    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports mpegts encoding
INFO     - 0:00:09.121    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports -id3v2_version option
INFO     - 0:00:09.122    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports the -seekable option
INFO     - 0:00:09.122    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports the -codec option
INFO     - 0:00:09.122    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports the -ignore_unknown option
INFO     - 0:00:09.191    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports the scale video filter
INFO     - 0:00:09.241    - .Main                       : ffmpeg supports the aac_adtstoasc bitstream filter

 

[bubbleguuum]

@taimei

Currently, 32-bit audio (which is not exactly common nor really useful) is converted to 16-bit if FFmpeg is enabled.
This is a bit of oversight as it did not cross my mind people would play more than 24-bit audio.
And not too many renderers I think are able to play natively 32-bit PCM anyway (or if they do they probably convert it to 24 or 16 bit).
Until I fix it, you can workaround it by disabling FFmpeg: set "Decode audio to PCM for" to "Never use".

 

[taimei]

@taimei

Currently, 32-bit audio (which is not exactly common nor really useful) is converted to 16-bit if FFmpeg is enabled.
This is a bit of oversight as it did not cross my mind people would play more than 24-bit audio.
And not too many renderers I think are able to play natively 32-bit PCM anyway (or if they do they probably convert it to 24 or 16 bit).
Until I fix it, you can workaround it by disabling FFmpeg: set "Decode audio to PCM for" to "Never use".

@bubbleguuum

I have only a few 32-bit sound sources. However, my renderer LUMIN T2 supports up to 32bit and I would like to avoid downconverting to 16bit if possible.
Glad to hear from you that you can fix this problem. Thank you very much.

I also have one confirmation and request.
If you look at the Roon signal path when played back in Roon, you will see that the DSP processing is performed at 64-bit precision, and when the DSP processing is finished, the final output is returned to the bit depth set by the user. (Screenshot attached)
I think it makes sense to convert to 64bit float for decoding and other processing accuracy.
That is why I was wondering what kind of precision BubbleUPnP Server is executing the processing.
If it is not running processing in 64bit float, is it possible to convert it to 64bit float and have it run processing in 64bit precision before running the decoding process or convolution filter process?
I do not like the sound tendencies of Roon and prefer to playback with UPnP renderer through BubbleUPnP Server. Therefore, I would be happy if BubbleUPnP Server performs the processing with 64-bit float precision as Roon does.

 

[tinpanalley]

...solved

 

[thout]

BUG in app.

If folder have 32 or more songs in it, it will display songs by files names. Also when playing this files to local renderer or upnp renderer (in my case its Denon AVR), it will show file name in now playing screen in the app, or on TV if i play to Denon AVR.

But if folder have 31 or less files in it. It will show all files by ID tag. And when playing it will show tag on now playing screen.

Please fix this.

 

[bubbleguuum]

@thout

This is for performance reason.
You can increase that value (32) in More > Gear icon > Local and Cloud > Local storage and mount points > Max folder item count for extracting metadata.

 

[thout]

@thout

This is for performance reason.
You can increase that value (32) in More > Gear icon > Local and Cloud > Local storage and mount points > Max folder item count for extracting metadata.

OK, thank you for quick answer! But 200 is max. Can you increase that number to 800?

I understand now. Even with 100 its slow in opening folder.

Can you then make so, when file starts to play, it will read tag from that file and display it. But in folders it can show as files name for faster load times.

 

[bubbleguuum]

I also have one confirmation and request.
If you look at the Roon signal path when played back in Roon, you will see that the DSP processing is performed at 64-bit precision, and when the DSP processing is finished, the final output is returned to the bit depth set by the user. (Screenshot attached)
I think it makes sense to convert to 64bit float for decoding and other processing accuracy.
That is why I was wondering what kind of precision BubbleUPnP Server is executing the processing.
If it is not running processing in 64bit float, is it possible to convert it to 64bit float and have it run processing in 64bit precision before running the decoding process or convolution filter process?
I do not like the sound tendencies of Roon and prefer to playback with UPnP renderer through BubbleUPnP Server. Therefore, I would be happy if BubbleUPnP Server performs the processing with 64-bit float precision as Roon does.

@taimei

All (optional) audio processing (samplerate/bitdepth conversion, ReplayGain, decoding to PCM, audio filters ...) performed by BubbleUPnP Server is done by FFmpeg.
I do not know at which precision FFmpeg operates but it can be assumed it is done competently.

 

[bubbleguuum]

OK, thank you for quick answer! But 200 is max. Can you increase that number to 800?

I understand now. Even with 100 its slow in opening folder.

Can you then make so, when file starts to play, it will read tag from that file and display it. But in folders it can show as files name for faster load times.

This would be a good compromise, but no promise.

 

[Karasca]

I've been having a persistent problem with this application since the first day weeks ago. I've finally gotten around to trying to troubleshoot the issue but I'm not getting anywhere.

Connecting to the foobar2000 server works fine, but any music stops playing after about 2 minutes.
This is regardless of whether the screen is off/on, the app is in the back/foreground. No matter what, even when keeping the application open on the "playing" screen.

I've tried everything in the anti battery saving pages and updated every part of my network.

I've sent an email before but there has been no reply to it, so I'm trying here.

I have the log file ready that shows 2 instances of music playing being interrupted, let me know if you need it.

I had to resort to trancoding to mp3 from flac to get it to work over wifi.

 

[simonMBUK]

Hi @bubbleguuum,

I love the custom grid view size setting in the latest update, but I was wondering if you could do something similar for the initial UPnP landing page that contains the main browsing hierarchies?

In MinimServer you can customise the main index icons, but the size of the tiles is really quite small so you lose a lot of the detail, a custom setting would be great, or failing that just an option to make them the same size as those in subsequent browsing steps would be appreciated.

Thanks for the excellent controller!

 

[dscottj]

I recently switched from Tidal to Qobuz and I noticed that "sort by date added" isn't a filter choice for albums on the Qobuz side. Is it possible to add that? Or is there and I missed it? Is it being added soon? It's been part of the Tidal side for quite some time. Long time user, love the product. Thanks!

UPDATE: This is probably me being a dummy. If you can just confirm DEFAULT is "date added" order, I'll be happy. It turns out that when you migrate all your tidal albums to qobuz using their slick little utility, all the dates on qobuz will be the same. What a concept!

 

[ranperry]

Feature request - The ability to cast the "Now Playing" screen into a TV that support casting or any Google cast device that supports video. Thanks!

 

[jesperhaun]

I have a strange problem. One radio station stops every 1-5 minutes while others seem to work perfectly.

This one stops constantly:
https://drliveradio.akamaized.net/hls/live/2022411/p4kobenhavn/masterab.m3u8

This one justs works:
http://stream.novafm.dk/nova128.m3u

 

[JokkeW]

I use this app occasionally and I love it. But lately it hasn't found my MiniDLNA server. Not sure from which version as it is a couple of weeks or months since I last used the app.

Windows Media player finds the server, and plays the content okay. So nothing wrong with the server.

And BubbleUPNP also finds my foobar2000 installation, so network should also be okay. Seems to be MiniDLNA specific. Known issue?

 

[bubbleguuum]

I use this app occasionally and I love it. But lately it hasn't found my MiniDLNA server. Not sure from which version as it is a couple of weeks or months since I last used the app.

Windows Media player finds the server, and plays the content okay. So nothing wrong with the server.

And BubbleUPNP also finds my foobar2000 installation, so network should also be okay. Seems to be MiniDLNA specific. Known issue?

@JokkeW

Try any or all of these:

- on your Android device, turn WiFi off then back on
- reboot your WiFi router (and any eventual intermediate network switches and/or WiFi repeater)
- make sure your WiFi router firmware is up-to-date
- on your WiFi router, look for a setting called IGMP snoopping, and if you find it, disable it.
- restart miniDLNA

 

[bubbleguuum]

I have a strange problem. One radio station stops every 1-5 minutes while others seem to work perfectly.

This one stops constantly:
https://drliveradio.akamaized.net/hls/live/2022411/p4kobenhavn/masterab.m3u8

This one justs works:
http://stream.novafm.dk/nova128.m3u

@jesperhaun

Problematic stream is a HLS stream while the working one is a SHOUTcast stream.
HLS can be tricky to play as it is not natively supported by many external renderers.

To which renderer are you playing to (assuming external renderer) ?
When you play the HLS stream, does the 'Now Playing' tab indicate HLS as format below the seekbar, or mention FFmpeg ?
If the former, you can try to force BubbleUPnP to use FFmpeg for decoding by changing 'More > Gear icon > Renderer settings > (pick your renderer) > FFmpeg audio decoding' to 'All audio formats'.